Antepost Football Betting 2020/21

ShamoBuc

Should be an interesting year!

Gavin "shels"

Any word on the RP pull out?

Loafing Oaf

'Last season' not quite over, still holding out for this from the old thread:p

Backing Seville for the Europa, Brits have to run out of luck at some stage...

ShamoBuc

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

'Last season' not quite over, still holding out for this from the old thread:p

I'll allow it in this one

Forrachmore

Brighton let me down for relegation had been backing them all year, sometimes you just get it wrong I would say they are slightly better than I thought.

If liverpool are not value at 15/8 the city at evens way to short.

Stoke to improve under michael o neill need to buy a few defenders should have the funds to strenght up, championship looks weak,

Other than that think my NAP will be west brom for relegation any other thoughts?

Gavin "shels"

Forrachmore wrote: »

If liverpool are not value at 15/8 the city at evens way to short.

Excellent value.

The real mccoy 91

Gavin "shels" wrote: »

Any word on the RP pull out?

8th of september for the pull out I see

RocketRaccoon

West Ham to be relegated looks incredible value at 9/2. A clueless manager, terrible fixtures to kick things off and apparently a few of their decent players leaving.

Forrachmore

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

West Ham to be relegated looks incredible value at 9/2. A clueless manager, terrible fixtures to kick things off and apparently a few of their decent players leaving.

Only 3/1 with pp

Loafing Oaf

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

'Last season' not quite over, still holding out for this from the old thread:p

Glad I mentioned it now.:P

Going forward, I'm liking Sky Bet's 8/1 on Palace to be the lowest scoring team. Other bookies seem to have them round half that. Ideally you'd wait to see what Zaha is doing I suppose, but I think they'll struggle badly for goals even if he stays.

RocketRaccoon

Forrachmore wrote: »

Only 3/1 with pp

9/2 with 365

PopePalpatine

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

9/2 with 365

11/2 with Betway. I guess their sponsorship of the Hammers has to count for something.

kerosene

I think Leicester are good value at around 11/4 to finish in the bottom half. They had a dreadful finish to the season, they have European football to contend with, a couple of their key players are linked to other clubs, Vardy is a year older.

Also, Rodgers is a good manager at making an instant impact and has done well at Leicester but at most of his previous clubs, after 18-24 months things tend to slide a bit.

Juxtapose

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

West Ham to be relegated looks incredible value at 9/2. A clueless manager, terrible fixtures to kick things off and apparently a few of their decent players leaving.

Really? They finished the season very well and any of their "decent players" leaving are Lanzini, Anderson (who both look disinterested)

Not sure he's a "clueless manager" unless u are a united fan who is still rattled by him being a manager/scapegoat. Since he took over after Pellegrini's shambolic start to the season, he definitely steadied the ship and Hammers played some solid football.. But not sure if u watched the games.

It might be a better bet on Moyes to be fired first, if their fixtures start off bad, rather than a full blown relegation.

RocketRaccoon

Juxtapose wrote: »

Really? They finished the season very well and any of their "decent players" leaving are Lanzini, Anderson (who both look disinterested)

Not sure he's a "clueless manager" unless u are a united fan who is still rattled by him being a manager/scapegoat. Since he took over after Pellegrini's shambolic start to the season, he definitely steadied the ship and Hammers played some solid football.. But not sure if u watched the games.

It might be a better bet on Moyes to be fired first, if their fixtures start off bad, rather than a full blown relegation.

Definitely not a United fan.

I'll definitely be having a decent bet on Moyes being first to get the sack once it opens on 365.

The real mccoy 91

Well as a west ham fan feel I can provide a bit of deeper insight. I'm very much part of the gsb out brigade they are just milking the club to line their own pockets the fan base is becoming very United against them moyes was brought in as he is a yes man and I do think he has done a good job and has the right plans in place but they will not back him with any funds we do have a couple of decent youngsters coming through but it's a big ask to ask them to adapt to the premiership that quickly. Horrible first 7 games of the season moyes only contracted until the end of the season so wont cost much to sack him but they cant let the club go down even though we have no money now if in trouble in January we would 'find' money from somewhere because it will kill their revenue if we go down. Wouldnt turn anyone off backing moyes to go first though

Juxtapose

hes 11/2 on PP..

Only thing that would put be off is the owners are so tight, it would mean he would have to lose the dressing room/fans rioting for them to pay for his sacking!

Dean Smith at 15/2 might be good value too.. Can see Villa struggling this season and he has been lucky enough to keep them up last season.

Forrachmore

I'm backing liverpool on exchanges 3.6 serious value IMO

jacool

I thought West Ham were serious relegation candidates post-Covid, but of all the teams that I watched playing in the last 4-5 rounds it was themselves and Southampton that impressed me most.
I can see the fixture list looks very challenging though
Saturday 12 September 2020 West Ham 15:00 Newcastle
Sunday 20 September 2020 Arsenal 14:00 West Ham
Saturday 26 September 2020 West Ham 15:00 Wolves
Saturday 3 October 2020 Leicester 15:00 West Ham
Saturday 17 October 2020 Spurs 15:00 West Ham
Saturday 24 October 2020 West Ham 15:00 Man City
Saturday 31 October 2020 Liverpool 15:00 West Ham
They could be bottom 3 after that, but would the club recognise that easier fixtures were round the corner, as opposed to dumping Moyes?

Forrachmore

Did anyone get the racing post football special think it was out tuesday feckin forgot about it

markc91

Forrachmore wrote: »

Did anyone get the racing post football special think it was out tuesday feckin forgot about it

Next Tuesday as far as I know

Forrachmore

I though there would be more intrest in this thread come on lads what's your thoughts

ShamoBuc

Forrachmore wrote: »

I though there would be more intrest in this thread come on lads what's your thoughts

Expect it to be busier next week, waiting till last few signings announced etc

Gavin "shels"

Personally waiting for the RP Pullout!

ShamoBuc

Gavin shels wrote: »

Personally waiting for the RP Pullout!

Like many others I'd say.

Raving_Magic

Sorry when is the Racing Post pullout for the Premier League available? This Tuesday is it?

Forrachmore

The RP pull out can be a good starting point but not the be all and end all, ie stoke were a team I used to back in the premiership few years ago to finish top Midlands club which they won 2 or 3vyears for me I had been watching them closely and I could see their demise I was surprised when one of the RP pundits said that 4/1 was a good bet to win the championship best to form your own opinions specialise in a league or one or two teams you will quickly realise you know as much as so called pundita

Gavin "shels"

Raving_Magic wrote: »

Sorry when is the Racing Post pullout for the Premier League available? This Tuesday is it?

Yup, tomorrow.

Gavin "shels"

Forrachmore wrote: »

The RP pull out can be a good starting point but not the be all and end all, ie stoke were a team I used to back in the premiership few years ago to finish top Midlands club which they won 2 or 3vyears for me I had been watching them closely and I could see their demise I was surprised when one of the RP pundits said that 4/1 was a good bet to win the championship best to form your own opinions specialise in a league or one or two teams you will quickly realise you know as much as so called pundita

With that in mind... aside from your Liverpool comment what are your ante post bets?:pac:

The real mccoy 91

Nketiah definitely shouldn't be nearly 5 times the price of lacazette for top goalscorer ew paying 4 places. Seems like the spot is there for him to take arsenal should be reasonably good goalswise his potential ceiling is pretty high so I've had a go @150/1

Trimm Trabb

Chelsea Top 4 Finish, Man Utd Top 6 Finish & Everton Top 10 Finish 9/5 on PP

Forrachmore

Gavin "shels" wrote: »

With that in mind... aside from your Liverpool comment what are your ante post bets?:pac:

No medals for predicting leeds top promoted club at 1.5 can be the banker leg for multiples.

Looking at either southampton or leeds +40 both12/1

Forrachmore

Forrachmore wrote: »

No medals for predicting leeds top promoted club at 1.5 can be the banker leg for multiples.

Looking at either southampton or leeds +40 both12/1

I'm also looking at oxford league 1 very consistent last season good signings 12/1 although this is prob one I'd like to trade

Loafing Oaf

Raving_Magic wrote: »

Sorry when is the Racing Post pullout for the Premier League available? This Tuesday is it?

Picked this up this morning. Might do a precis of the tips later on if people are interested.

Raving_Magic

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Picked this up this morning. Might do a precis of the tips later on if people are interested.

Have it this morning but thanks for the help mate, going to have a cup of tea and flick through it shortly

unplayable

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Picked this up this morning. Might do a precis of the tips later on if people are interested.

Please mate went to 3 shops there in cork no sign of it.

Gavin "shels"

unplayable wrote: »

Please mate went to 3 shops there in cork no sign of it.

Can buy it online for 3.50, get it sent in PDF format.

https://shop1.racingpost.com/collections/new-titles/products/the-big-kick-off-2020-21-pdf-download

Loafing Oaf

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Picked this up this morning. Might do a precis of the tips later on if people are interested.

It's a massive opus: I'll just list their main prem tips or I'll be here all night.
Here's their predicted table;
Liverpool
Man City
Man Utd
Chelsea
Arsenal
Wolves
Tottenham
Leicester
Southampton
Everton
Leeds
Burnley
Sheffield United
Brighton
West Ham
Crystal Palace
Aston Villa
Newcastle
West Brom
Fulham

Top scorer tips: Werner, Vardy, Greenwood
Bruce and Mourinho for sack race
Special bets: Chelsea top London club, Everton top-half, Brighton lowest scoring team

If anyone wants the lowdown on any other specific market give me a shout

Incidentally, does anyone know if any bookie is giving odds on a relegation double: would stake my life on Fulham and West Brom for that

TheHopeful

Thanks Oaf.

Wouldn't mind seeing the League 1 & 2 bets if you or anyone else gets a chance.

Loafing Oaf

TheHopeful wrote: »

Thanks Oaf.

Wouldn't mind seeing the League 1 & 2 bets if you or anyone else gets a chance.

League One:
Peterborough & Oxford winner
Hull top 6
Burton relegated
Plymouth top-half
Plymouth top promoted club]Bristol Rovers bottom half
Top scorer: Marquis, Dembele, James Henry

League Two:
Bolton winner
Port Vale top 7
Southend relegated
Bradford top northern club
Bolton top relegated club
Top scorers: Henderson, Quigley, Sotiriou

Gavin "shels"

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

would stake my life on Fulham and West Brom for that

Only Relegation Treble on Bet365 or SkyBet. You might be able to request a Double.

eh i dunno

West brom to be relagated
Stoke promoted
Sunderland promoted
Bolton promoted
Sevilla top 4
Celtic win title
Inter win title
490/1

cute geoge

eh i dunno wrote: »

West brom to be relagated
Stoke promoted
Sunderland promoted
Bolton promoted
Sevilla top 4
Celtic win title
Inter win title
490/1

Can you these type bets on pp online because I was trying to do a few bets on prem. top half/bottom half accum. but only singles were showing

Gavin "shels"

Bet done!

Fulham Relegated 10/11
Norwich Promoted 9/4
Oxford Promoted 3/1
Bolton Promoted 5/4
Notts County Top Three 6/4
Real Madrid To Win 4/6
Inter Milan To Win W/O Juve 1/2
Benfica To Win 10/11

665/1 on Bet365!


Added in Benfica after seeing the below on Betfair preview

Primeira Liga Winner: BenficaSee All Odds

Finally, after a bumper transfer window, I have Benfica winning the Portuguese Primeira Liga.

While Porto are the current champions, Benfica have played a blinder this summer. Striker Darwin Nunez comes in after being courted by a number of top European clubs, including ones in the Premier League, while Luca Waldschmidt, who joins from Freiburg, is one of Germany’s most exciting young strikers.

Jan Vertonghen joining on a free is also a serious coup, and will add some fantastic experience to the side.

Benfica have won five of the last seven Portuguese league titles, and with such a good transfer window under their belts, I make them pretty big favourites over a Porto side who have a very quiet summer themselves.

Gavin "shels"

cute geoge wrote: »

Can you these type bets on pp online because I was trying to do a few bets on prem. top half/bottom half accum. but only singles were showing

Won't be able to do say Everton Top Half & Villa Bottom Half, interfering bets.

Francescoli

cute geoge wrote: »

Can you these type bets on pp online because I was trying to do a few bets on prem. top half/bottom half accum. but only singles were showing

Can't do bets in an accum that will have effect on each other unless the firm offer it as a special.
Say Everton top half and west ham outside top 10 for example.

Edit: I've probably described that terribly but that's the gist of it.

eh i dunno

cute geoge wrote: »

Can you these type bets on pp online because I was trying to do a few bets on prem. top half/bottom half accum. but only singles were showing

Did that on pp

ShamoBuc

My offering is to the Betting Gids

To be relegated
Fulham
Wycombe
Rochdale
Elche
Celtic winners
Bolton top 3
Benfica winners
Dortmund without Bayern
At around 70/1

And

Chelsea top 4
Brentford to be promoted
Sunderland to be promoted
Salford to be promoted
Stockport to be promoted
Sevilla top 4
Inter without Juve
Dortmund without Bayern
At around 250/1

RocketRaccoon

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

West Ham to be relegated looks incredible value at 9/2. A clueless manager, terrible fixtures to kick things off and apparently a few of their decent players leaving.

Already in to 2/1 tonight

kerosene

Liverpool to win EPL 15/8
Aubameyang top scorer 4/1
Mason Greenwood pfa young player of the year 9/2
Rotherham to be relegated 5/2
Eoin Doyle league 2 top scorer 13/2

€20 accum

€41500 return hopefully

Was going to add Leicester city to finish in bottom half of premier league but there was a game in play when I was in the bookies and that particular market was suspended.

Fitz*

RB Leipzig 5/1 - Bundesliga w/out Bayern Munich
Liverpool 2/1 - Premier League
Inter 2/1 - Serie A

54/1 treble

Watford 2/1 - To be Promoted - Championship
Sevilla 3/1 - La Liga w/out Barcelona & Real Madrid
Blackpool 17/10 - League 1 Top 6 Finish
Fulham 10/11 - Premier League Relegation

62/1 accum

Brentford 4/7 - Top 6 Finish Championship
Real Madrid 8/11 - La Liga Winner
Oxford Utd 3/1 - To Be Promoted - League 1
Arsenal 8/15 - Premier League Top 6 Finish

17/1 accum