Pulling Ragwort

Tomjim

Every year I pull ragwort before it goes to seed, however the ragwort is not going away

One problem is that 50% of the ragwort breaks at the butt and so I am not getting all the roots.

My question is that I thought that ragwort would die off after 2 years and would not come back even where I am not pulling the roots up. Is this correct?

Wildsurfer

Tomjim wrote: »

Every year I pull ragwort before it goes to seed, however the ragwort is not going away

One problem is that 50% of the ragwort breaks at the butt and so I am not getting all the roots.

My question is that I thought that ragwort would die off after 2 years and would not come back even where I am not pulling the roots up. Is this correct?

Spray it 2 years in a row early spring or late Autumn and you'll save yourself a lot of back ache.

Danzy

Maybe let it get stronger, grab it low.

That could be soil differences so maybe different approaches .

tanko

Wildsurfer wrote: »

Spray it 2 years in a row early spring or late Autumn and you'll save yourself a lot of back ache.

What do you spray with?

dodo mommy

tanko wrote: »

What do you spray with?

Sprayed a few fields with agroxone in April no sign of ragworth this year thank God.

Rows Grower

5 litres of white vinegar add a cup of salt, punch a few holes in the cap and squirt it on any weed.

Almost instant result as in they'll be dead the next day but you'll see results after a few hours. A small bit of washing up liquid into the mix will help it cling if there's a chance of a shower.

Tomjim

Rows Grower wrote: »

5 litres of white vinegar add a cup of salt, punch a few holes in the cap and squirt it on any weed.

Almost instant result as in they'll be dead the next day but you'll see results after a few hours. A small bit of washing up liquid into the mix will help it cling if there's a chance of a shower.

But would that be dangerous for cattle if left there and not pullled

Rows Grower

Tomjim wrote: »

But would that be dangerous for cattle if left there and not pullled

I can't say for definite Tomjim, but have you ever heard someone working in the chipper asking would you like RoundUp or Gallop on that?

cj maxx

Tomjim wrote: »

Every year I pull ragwort before it goes to seed, however the ragwort is not going away

One problem is that 50% of the ragwort breaks at the butt and so I am not getting all the roots.

My question is that I thought that ragwort would die off after 2 years and would not come back even where I am not pulling the roots up. Is this correct?

Don't pull it in hard dry ground. After the rain lately would be good time.
Just grab the stalk down low and pull.
Spraying might be easier but I didn't have one and cleared a few fields over 2years.
And wear gloves

whelan2

There's a fork you can get for digging it up. You have to get the roots up

_Brian

Even after recent rain it’s hard going.

About ten years ago my back got wrecked in a car crash and I was off my feet for a significant time. When I was back out and about I couldn’t lift or pull.

I used a 10l sprayer and roundup. But I spot sprayed them when they were small so there was no danger to cattle afterwards.

I pulled some this week and I’d say 1/3 broke off. I’ll be out in this field earlier next year and spot spray as many as I can.

emaherx

whelan2 wrote: »

There's a fork you can get for digging it up. You have to get the roots up

Yea, a ragfork, I bought one this year and it's a great job can be used to pull them up as soon as you see the rosettes too.

Mooooo

Rows Grower wrote: »

I can't say for definite Tomjim, but have you ever heard someone working in the chipper asking would you like RoundUp or Gallop on that?

It's the dead plant that's the danger, not what's put on it to kill it

whelan2

Mooooo wrote: »

It's the dead plant that's the danger, not what's put on it to kill it

Its the dying plant that's the danger. They wont eat the dead ones. It becomes palatable when dying.The ones you pull have to be disposed of away from where the cattle are. That's why when you spray you cant let cattle back in until they are fully dead- the ragwort not the cattle

I says

Get sheep in over the winter.

banoffe2

will the mixture of white vinegar and salt work on all weeds or just ragworth - just curious, thanks

TooOldBoots

Whatever you do don't cut or top them as that spreads them. The cuttings take root within weeks, you'd end up 3 plants where there once was 1.
If your badly infested wait for after heavy rain then pull them.
I cleaned up 30 acres of a neglected farm I bought years ago. I took it one field at a time over a couple of years. Got the young fella to crawl the tractor and transport box ahead and threw the ragwort into the box as I went along pulling.

Gods Gift

Mini digger.

patsy_mccabe

I've our place cleaned of them from just pulling. I reckon you will reduce 90% year on year from just pulling. I've so few now, that it's a novelty to pull one.

bogman_bass

emaherx wrote: »

Yea, a ragfork, I bought one this year and it's a great job can be used to pull them up as soon as you see the rosettes too.

Same as that. Got it from whites agri in lusk. The big think is that you can get them early and not leave the root behind

emaherx

bogman_bass wrote: »

Same as that. Got it from whites agri in lusk. The big think is that you can get them early and not leave the root behind

Same place I got myself.

Tomjim

Has each plant a lifetime of 2 years so if you pull a plant for 2 years (even if you don't get all the roots) this means that plant is gone and it won't come back the third year

Ae Fond Kiss

Tomjim wrote: »

Every year I pull ragwort before it goes to seed, however the ragwort is not going away

One problem is that 50% of the ragwort breaks at the butt and so I am not getting all the roots.

My question is that I thought that ragwort would die off after 2 years and would not come back even where I am not pulling the roots up. Is this correct?

I find it comes back if any bit of root is left. It helps if the ground is a bit softer when pulling, less roots breaking.

emaherx

Tomjim wrote: »

Has each plant a lifetime of 2 years so if you pull a plant for 2 years (even if you don't get all the roots) this means that plant is gone and it won't come back the third year

No it will grow back if you leave any root at all.

I've pulled every plant that has appeared on my farm for years. Yet there is still some every year. But definitely more manageable every year.

Ae Fond Kiss

A few years back after the wet summers 2007-12 and 2015 I had it in a lot of poached fields, hilly ground.

I got weighed what I pulled in 2015, 3.5 tonnes! The following year got a few teenagers locally with me. They weren't pulling at the butt and at it half heartedly. You could see the areas of the field they were in the following year.

Hard to get ragwort pickers or stone pickers like in 30 years ago!

ruwithme

Just looked up the ragfork on whites agri. Nice pink handle on it.lads that have one, do you have to twist it when its in the ground to stub out the roots??

emaherx

ruwithme wrote: »

Just looked up the ragfork on whites agri. Nice pink handle on it.lads that have one, do you have to twist it when its in the ground to stub out the roots??

I ordered that one, but a blue one arrived. Friend of mine ordered and he got a pink one, don't think they are too bothered about the colour.

You don't twist, it's got a big heel that you lever the weed out with.

GinSoaked

ruwithme wrote: »

Just looked up the ragfork on whites agri. Nice pink handle on it.lads that have one, do you have to twist it when its in the ground to stub out the roots??

Just get an old fork, put a long shovel handle on it and with an angle grinder cut off the two outer prongs.

whelan2

ruwithme wrote: »

Just looked up the ragfork on whites agri. Nice pink handle on it.lads that have one, do you have to twist it when its in the ground to stub out the roots??

Sure if it's pink no one will rob it and it will be easily seen

_Brian

GinSoaked wrote: »

Just get an old fork, put a long shovel handle on it and with an angle grinder cut off the two outer prongs.

But a fork only has two prongs!

Snowc

_Brian wrote: »

But a fork only has two prongs!

I eat me dinner with a 6 prong fork there is a few different types out there now

GinSoaked

_Brian wrote: »

But a fork only has two prongs!

Which means it goes into the soil and moves backwards and forwards really easy, so loosening the soil with minimal effort.

But otherwise your maths is good.

Donald Trump

emaherx wrote: »

I ordered that one, but a blue one arrived. Friend of mine ordered and he got a pink one, don't think they are too bothered about the colour.

You don't twist, it's got a big heel that you lever the weed out with.

You have to specifically request the pink one.


I think your friend might just be hiding his love of pink


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Serious answer. I've used an old buckrake tooth to loosen the roots of stubborn ones before. I'd imagine that little purpose-built yoke is handier...but it did the job

Genghis Cant

I put in a couple of hours on Friday and cleared a field. They were a light enough crop. 13 ration bags full.
Topped on Saturday. I'd a wonderful crop of thistles in one area in particular.

99nsr125

Please don't do this, you'll permanently poison that patch of ground.

Rows Grower wrote: »

5 litres of white
vinegar add a cup of salt, punch a few holes in the cap and squirt it on any weed.

Almost instant result as in they'll be dead the next day but you'll see results after a few hours. A small bit of washing up liquid into the mix will help it cling if there's a chance of a shower.

Pinsnbushings

Must have been national ragworth pulling weekend or something, we pulled a trailer load yesterday too. The auld lad was designing a 3 tooth fork for getting them up and all, instead of the garden fork we were using. I will have to break it to him gently about it being on the market already..:)
Definitely seems to be important to get all the root out, 4 or 5 years at it now but getting there.Stubborn feckers and the cows leave a lot of grass around them too.

Water John

Mentioned on some other Farming thread here, was a Lazy dog, so went and ordered one. It's very good.
Had a field of ragwort sprayed four years ago. Ragwort disappeared and I've mowed silage off it each year. This year there all back.

Lime Tree Farm

Water John wrote: »

Mentioned on some other Farming thread here, was a Lazy dog, so went and ordered one. It's very good.
Had a field of ragwort sprayed four years ago. Ragwort disappeared and I've mowed silage off it each year. This year there all back.

Where did you purchase it?

https://lazydogtools.co.uk/pulling-docks-using-lazy-dog/

Is this ragworth?

Water John

Yeah it was from them, I got it, Lime.

Not sure that is ragwort, South Westerly, the flower bulb looks diff. I'll check mine tomorrow, plenty specimens.

GinSoaked

SouthWesterly wrote: »

Is this ragworth?

Yes

Biscuitus

My farm was spotless last year. Builder a few fields away dug up the ground for future development. All nearby fields full of ragweed again.

No matter how much you spray and pull ragweed seeds will always come in through the wind.

Lime Tree Farm

SouthWesterly wrote: »

Is this ragworth?

It may be Oxford/Marsh ragwort. The leaves of the marsh ragwort are more slender than the field ragwort.

blackbox

Ragwort and Ragweed are two different things.

The yellow flowered plant common in Ireland is Ragwort.

Ragweed comes from America.

Google.

GinSoaked

GinSoaked wrote: »

Yes

Thanks. I pulled it from the root and binned it.

Tomjim

Tomjim wrote: »

Every year I pull ragwort before it goes to seed, however the ragwort is not going away

One problem is that 50% of the ragwort breaks at the butt and so I am not getting all the roots.

My question is that I thought that ragwort would die off after 2 years and would not come back even where I am not pulling the roots up. Is this correct?

It could be your neighbour not dealing with it on their side of the fence / ditch?

SAXA

Land a bit softer now so easier to pull...Have to get the roots.. Mostly find them near to neighbour land who is .... careless

SAXA

SAXA wrote: »

Land a bit softer now so easier to pull...Have to get the roots.. Mostly find them near to neighbour land who is .... careless

In my experience if the neighbour has loads in the field next door then the seeds will blow in

Mad_maxx

I see one of our neighbours has several field's infested with it ( not adjoining our property thankfully)

Another neighbour ( who is adjoining )said it's down to insufficient fertiliser application, taking too much silage off field's and not reseeding enough?

Guy described the land as" completely raped"

I've two acres and nine sheep so never a problem

Water John

Yeah SW agree your pic is a ragwort.
Def ragwort growing has nothing to do with fertiliser or ph.

Water John

Water John wrote: »

Yeah SW agree your pic is a ragwort.
Def ragwort growing has nothing to do with fertiliser or ph.

Saw this thread, saw it in the veg garden and pulled it before it seeded. Straight into the bin.