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The consequences of buying fish

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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,222 ✭✭✭✭ the dunne


    ......ok

    You're codding me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,681 ✭✭✭ Quantum Erasure


    ...that fishy smell that hangs around all day


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,110 ✭✭✭ con747


    I'll sit on my perch and watch this thread


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,497 ✭✭✭ auspicious


    Unfortunately as FRMI studies display, homo sapiens, us , the further out in time we try to imagine the future, the harder it is to care about it. That is to say it is harder for us to take actions that benefit our future selves both as individuals and as a society. The more we examine the future the less self control we exhibit, we are less likey to make pro-social choices. Choices that will benefit the World going forward.
    These videos of the direct detrimental impact of our purchasing should really focus us, and our teaching of the next generation, to neglect the current status quo and countenance a fairer future.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,222 ✭✭✭✭ the dunne


    auspicious wrote: »
    Unfortunately as FRMI studies display, homo sapiens, us , the further out in time we try to imagine the future, the harder it is to care about it. That is to say it is harder for us to take actions that benefit our future selves both as individuals and as a society. The more we examine the future the less self control we exhibit, we are less likey to make pro-social choices. Choices that will benefit the World going forward.
    These videos of the direct detrimental impact of our purchasing should really focus us, and our teaching of the next generation, to neglect the current status quo and countenance a fairer future.

    Fish fingers are lovely though.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,497 ✭✭✭ auspicious


    the dunne wrote: »
    Fish fingers are lovely though.

    Please.
    Yawn


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,222 ✭✭✭✭ the dunne


    auspicious wrote: »
    Please.
    Yawn

    Genuinely thought it was a piss take thread.

    I am absolutely in awe of you chief if, while the world is metaphorically burning, your issue is fishing.

    I'd love that to be one of my concerns at the moment.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,497 ✭✭✭ auspicious


    the dunne wrote: »
    Genuinely thought it was a piss take thread.

    I am absolutely in awe of you chief if, while the world is metaphorically burning, your issue is fishing.

    I'd love that to be one of my concerns at the moment.

    The world is burning. But in every aspect. It's not just fishing essentially but how we have, this global economic initiative , conducted our societal growth with little recognition to the impact to everything else.
    I mean, fishless oceans estimated by 2048 on our current proliferation is unjustifiable.
    We need change now in a social context and not pussyfooting on political party goals.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,222 ✭✭✭✭ the dunne


    auspicious wrote: »
    The world is burning. But in every aspect. It's not just fishing essentially but how we have, this global economic initiative , conducted our societal growth with little recognition to the impact to everything else.
    I mean, fishless oceans estimated by 2048 on our current proliferation is unjustifiable.
    We need change now in a social context and not pussyfooting on political party goals.

    Not being funny mate, but your title on this thread is very misleading.

    And also, I do stand by my assertion that fish fingers are delicious


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,497 ✭✭✭ auspicious


    They may be delicious but obviously it's a juvenile statement. Man up and teach the next generation sustainable values.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,222 ✭✭✭✭ the dunne


    auspicious wrote: »
    They may be delicious but obviously it's a juvenile statement. Man up and teach the next generation sustainable values.

    In Dublin we can hunt wild foxes?

    Not sure if you saw the news but eating wild meat may have caused a pandemic which has ****ed up the world. Donegal catch and captain Birdseye seem to be blameless.

    What do you suggest we do?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,497 ✭✭✭ auspicious


    We can doesn't mean we should.

    "Ecosystems that were losing species were always more fragile, always more vulnerable, always more likely to see a whole collapse of fisheries, more likely to show an increase in toxic events like fish kills and things like that," Worm said.

    "Whereas those systems that still had a full portfolio of species or had large species diversity to begin with were more robust, better buffered against change."


    But areas managed for improved biodiversity can and do recover, Worm says, raising the possibility that the trend can be reversed if humans take action.

    Everywhere they looked, they got the same result: The greater the loss of diversity, the greater the impact on ecosystem services."

    We should read more.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,681 ✭✭✭ Quantum Erasure


    auspicious wrote: »
    They may be delicious but obviously it's a juvenile statement. Man up and teach the next generation sustainable values.

    give a man a fish....


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,497 ✭✭✭ auspicious


    give a man a fish....

    ...and uneducated morals, his greed will undo him.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,222 ✭✭✭✭ the dunne


    auspicious wrote: »
    We can doesn't mean we should.

    "Ecosystems that were losing species were always more fragile, always more vulnerable, always more likely to see a whole collapse of fisheries, more likely to show an increase in toxic events like fish kills and things like that," Worm said.

    "Whereas those systems that still had a full portfolio of species or had large species diversity to begin with were more robust, better buffered against change."


    But areas managed for improved biodiversity can and do recover, Worm says, raising the possibility that the trend can be reversed if humans take action.

    Everywhere they looked, they got the same result: The greater the loss of diversity, the greater the impact on ecosystem services."

    We should read more.

    Are you a vegan by any chance?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,681 ✭✭✭ Quantum Erasure


    auspicious wrote: »
    ...and uneducated morals, his greed will undo him.

    you can lead a horse to water....


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,222 ✭✭✭✭ the dunne


    you can lead a horse to water....

    You can grind up bunnies and badgers to get your grains....

    You can **** up the environment by harvesting almond milk...

    You can carbon footprint the **** out of yourself to have your avocados on toast

    You can have a steak... Oh wait no.


  • Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭ Sac O Spuds


    Its a food source that the human race isn't in total control of. Except for salmon trout and some shellfish farming its largely a wild resource. Fishing is still a form of hunting. Technology has made it easier to catch vast quantities of sealife and that is where the problem is. Replenishing fish stocks is totally natural and out of our control.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,222 ✭✭✭✭ the dunne


    I'd still eat fish before I'd milk an almond


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭ tabby aspreme


    the dunne wrote: »
    In Dublin we can hunt wild foxes?

    Not sure if you saw the news but eating wild meat may have caused a pandemic which has ****ed up the world. Donegal catch and captain Birdseye seem to be blameless.

    What do you suggest we do?

    File your nails in a fileing cabinet


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  • Registered Users Posts: 927 ✭✭✭ robertpatterson


    the dunne wrote: »
    I'd still eat fish before I'd milk an almond

    I can never find their nipples!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,479 ✭✭✭✭ whisky_galore


    auspicious wrote: »
    Please.
    Yawn

    This thread, yawn.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,279 ✭✭✭✭ TheValeyard


    I do like monkfish.

    Fcuk Putin. Glory to Ukraine!



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭ kildare lad


    Its a food source that the human race isn't in total control of. Except for salmon trout and some shellfish farming its largely a wild resource. Fishing is still a form of hunting. Technology has made it easier to catch vast quantities of sealife and that is where the problem is. Replenishing fish stocks is totally natural and out of our control.

    But it is in our control, the more fish we take out of the sea the less fish there'll be in it..The EU need to lower the quotas and give fish time to replenish their stocks. They need to ban super trawlers and add more marine protection zones around our waters. It's disgusting how greedy humans are. The amount of cormorants coming inland over the last few years due to lack of fish in the sea . You know there's something wrong when you see 5 of them on your local canal over the winter.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 Snow Garden


    I used to love the annual mackerel migration in Galway. There were so many that you'd catch them with your hands on the prom.
    Now the foreign factory ships are hoovering them up and mulching them for catfood or fertiliser. The shoals coming into Galway are so small and the fish themselves are tiny. It's wrong, very wrong. Especially for people living on an island. We can we quite a cowardly nation for all our guff.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,087 ✭✭✭ Feisar


    the dunne wrote: »
    You can grind up bunnies and badgers to get your grains....

    You can **** up the environment by harvesting almond milk...

    You can carbon footprint the **** out of yourself to have your avocados on toast

    You can have a steak... Oh wait no.

    At the end of the day there are just to many of us about.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,479 ✭✭✭✭ whisky_galore


    I used to love the annual mackerel migration in Galway. There were so many that you'd catch them with your hands on the prom.
    Now the foreign factory ships are hoovering them up and mulching them for catfood or fertiliser. The shoals coming into Galway are so small and the fish themselves are tiny. It's wrong, very wrong. Especially for people living on an island. We can we quite a cowardly nation for all our guff.

    Irish marine affairs lumped in, like an afterthought, with Agriculture and now looked after by lad from Offaly.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,853 ✭✭✭ Hoop66


    I do like monkfish.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,673 ✭✭✭ jam_mac_jam


    I used to love the annual mackerel migration in Galway. There were so many that you'd catch them with your hands on the prom.
    Now the foreign factory ships are hoovering them up and mulching them for catfood or fertiliser. The shoals coming into Galway are so small and the fish themselves are tiny. It's wrong, very wrong. Especially for people living on an island. We can we quite a cowardly nation for all our guff.

    That's terrible. Lovely mackerel being wasted.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,431 ✭✭✭✭ Thelonious Monk


    Yeah, I eat fish a few times a week myself, it mostly seems to be haddock or hake. I don't really know what is an acceptable amount to eat, if there is an acceptable amount at all given the state of our oceans. I don't eat tuna any more, and salmon is a disaster, can you even buy wild salmon in Ireland? Farmed salmon and the environmental consequences is scary.
    Can you even buy fresh Irish or European prawns? As far as I know there are no prawns in Irish waters, it's a difficult subject to get information on.
    What we see in the shops here, and even in these trying to be craft fish shop places like Wrights etc, are big juicy farmed prawns from places like India, Bangladesh, and Nicaragua - where they are destroying ecosystems by farming them. I couldn't possibly eat those either.
    It will never happen, but I wish the EU could come together and have some kind of moratorium on fishing for 5 years or so, to let the seas replenish. Pay fishermen or whatever. How they think we can go on as is with the damage dredging and supertrawlers etc are doing is beyond me. They had to do this in Newfoundland because the once extremely plentiful cod was fished into oblivion, and it never recovered.
    We are a moronic species.


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