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How to drink more water when you can't stomach it?

  • 28-06-2020 2:49pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 402 ✭✭


    Hi, I want to start drinking more water but I hate the taste (or lack thereof).
    ATM I drink 0% sugar Mi Wadi and I would ideally like to cut that out.

    Ive never tried fruit in it. What fruit would add the strongest taste?

    Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,670 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    I used lemon and/or lime. One of those with some cucumber as well is lovely and refreshing


  • Registered Users Posts: 402 ✭✭Warbeastrior


    I used lemon and/or lime. One of those with some cucumber as well is lovely and refreshing

    Would it be a noticeable difference? I must try it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,670 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Would it be a noticeable difference? I must try it

    Yep. I too find it hard to drink water because of its waterness


  • Registered Users Posts: 402 ✭✭Warbeastrior


    Yep. I too find it hard to drink water because of its waterness

    Great description 😂


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,896 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    ice cubes and keep a jug of water in the fridge. any water is way nicer when its cold


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,358 ✭✭✭✭Purple Mountain


    I think it's easier to sip water from a bottle with a spout that take mouthfuls from a glass etc.
    So get one of those bottles and add a wedge of lime or lemon or both into them.
    Also, a few mint leaves might be nice either.

    To thine own self be true



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,670 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    I think it's easier to sip water from a bottle with a spout that take mouthfuls from a glass etc.
    So get one of those bottles and add a wedge of lime or lemon or both into them.
    Also, a few mint leaves might be nice either.

    Yeah mint is a good call. Tried that once or twice too. Mashed it a bit first like I was making a mojito :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,201 ✭✭✭mistersifter


    Soda water with a bit of lemon, lovely!


  • Registered Users Posts: 402 ✭✭Warbeastrior


    Thanks for all the suggestions. I'm encouraged by how much of a change the fruit does to the water.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    Don't drink tap water. There is a taste and it's unpleasant as well as bad for you. A lot of Irish people drink a lot of black tea as well. Black tea has a fair amount of fluoride in it. So does the tap water, so does your toothpaste and mouthwash. A lot of Irish people are ingesting far too much of it. It's a proven neurotoxin that results in lower IQ and many health problems. It also contains chlorine that kills beneficial gut bacteria as well as harmful bacteria in the water. This has a load of knock on health affects from poor nutrition absorption.

    Some in here will probably skoff at this but it's a fact. There's plenty of studies to back it up.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,094 ✭✭✭stevek93


    BloodBath wrote: »
    Don't drink tap water. There is a taste and it's unpleasant as well as bad for you. A lot of Irish people drink a lot of black tea as well. Black tea has a fair amount of fluoride in it. So does the tap water, so does your toothpaste and mouthwash. A lot of Irish people are ingesting far too much of it. It's a proven neurotoxin that results in lower IQ and many health problems. It also contains chlorine that kills beneficial gut bacteria as well as harmful bacteria in the water. This has a load of knock on health affects from poor nutrition absorption.

    Some in here will probably skoff at this but it's a fact. There's plenty of studies to back it up.

    Our government must be drinking it constantly so!!!

    OP you will get used to it I never drank up until a few years ago now it's the only thing I can stomach, anything with fizz in it now I cant bare the taste.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,670 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    BloodBath wrote: »
    Don't drink tap water. There is a taste and it's unpleasant as well as bad for you. A lot of Irish people drink a lot of black tea as well. Black tea has a fair amount of fluoride in it. So does the tap water, so does your toothpaste and mouthwash. A lot of Irish people are ingesting far too much of it. It's a proven neurotoxin that results in lower IQ and many health problems. It also contains chlorine that kills beneficial gut bacteria as well as harmful bacteria in the water. This has a load of knock on health affects from poor nutrition absorption.

    Some in here will probably skoff at this but it's a fact. There's plenty of studies to back it up.

    Link me some of them studies that support the above with respect to the level of fluoride in Irish water.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,094 ✭✭✭stevek93


    Link me some of them studies that support the above with respect to the level of fluoride in Irish water.

    I think it is something like 0.6-0.8ppm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    It's not just the fluoride in the water. Like I said there's also Chlorine. Do you drink tea as well? Do you rinse your mouth well after brushing your teeth. The mouthwashes even tell you not to rinse your mouth after using them. You don't think you are swallowing a reasonable amount here as well if you don't?

    Here's a study with tea using tap water.

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/296636052_Risk_Assessment_of_Fluoride_Intake_from_Tea_in_the_Republic_of_Ireland_and_its_Implications_for_Public_Health_and_Water_Fluoridation
    5. Conclusions

    A number of conclusions can be drawn from this study. First, the main finding of this study is that tea is the major source of exposure to fluoride in the general population. Second, for both adults and children the total dietary intake of fluoride from tea can exceed the upper tolerable intake limit (UL) atlevels known to cause chronic fluoride intoxication.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,645 ✭✭✭krissovo


    BloodBath wrote: »
    Don't drink tap water. There is a taste and it's unpleasant as well as bad for you. A lot of Irish people drink a lot of black tea as well. Black tea has a fair amount of fluoride in it. So does the tap water, so does your toothpaste and mouthwash. A lot of Irish people are ingesting far too much of it. It's a proven neurotoxin that results in lower IQ and many health problems. It also contains chlorine that kills beneficial gut bacteria as well as harmful bacteria in the water. This has a load of knock on health affects from poor nutrition absorption.

    Some in here will probably skoff at this but it's a fact. There's plenty of studies to back it up.

    What a load of anti Vaxxer nonsense. Worth a watch:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wReANdzf3b4


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    If you have lemon bee balm growing anywhere near you, I find a bunch of that and a squirt of honey into some warm water with it. Shake it all up to diffuse, absolutely savage. Lemon balm grows absolutely abundantly if left to. Mine is used every day and it's still taking over the garden!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭ruwithme


    BloodBath wrote: »
    Don't drink tap water. There is a taste and it's unpleasant as well as bad for you. A lot of Irish people drink a lot of black tea as well. Black tea has a fair amount of fluoride in it. So does the tap water, so does your toothpaste and mouthwash. A lot of Irish people are ingesting far too much of it. It's a proven neurotoxin that results in lower IQ and many health problems. It also contains chlorine that kills beneficial gut bacteria as well as harmful bacteria in the water. This has a load of knock on health affects from poor nutrition absorption.

    Some in here will probably skoff at this but it's a fact. There's plenty of studies to back it up.

    Did anyone ever look inside a empty teapot?

    if it does that to stainless steel, what must it do our insides.
    i drink gallons of it, so i must be fooked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    krissovo wrote: »
    What a load of anti Vaxxer nonsense. Worth a watch:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wReANdzf3b4

    You haven't a clue what you're talking about. Ignorance is bliss eh?

    There's multiple scientific studies to back up what I'm saying. You're using a youtube video of idiots to back up your opinion?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    BloodBath wrote: »
    Don't drink tap water. There is a taste and it's unpleasant as well as bad for you. A lot of Irish people drink a lot of black tea as well. Black tea has a fair amount of fluoride in it. So does the tap water, so does your toothpaste and mouthwash. A lot of Irish people are ingesting far too much of it. It's a proven neurotoxin that results in lower IQ and many health problems. It also contains chlorine that kills beneficial gut bacteria as well as harmful bacteria in the water. This has a load of knock on health affects from poor nutrition absorption.

    Some in here will probably skoff at this but it's a fact. There's plenty of studies to back it up.

    If you look into the details of some of those studies you can see some red flags.

    "This finding was confirmed by a study where groups of children exposed to 8 ppm fluoride in water were found to have lower average IQs, less children attaining high IQ, and more children affected by low IQ.[21] While 8 ppm is much higher than the fluoride level added to water in fluoridation programs (0.7–1.2 ppm), these results are in congruence with previous studies[22] from China that indicate that fluoride may affect IQ at lower levels"

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6309358/

    Exposing them to 8 times the normal amount of fluoride that's in the water from a flouridation program to show that it had a negative effect is a bit disingenuous. Fairly sure if you exposed kids to 8 times the normal of any other substance it would have a negative effect too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,591 ✭✭✭Padraig Mor


    BloodBath wrote: »
    Some in here will probably skoff at this.

    Yes - and rightly so!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    If you look into the details of some of those studies you can see some red flags.

    "This finding was confirmed by a study where groups of children exposed to 8 ppm fluoride in water were found to have lower average IQs, less children attaining high IQ, and more children affected by low IQ.[21] While 8 ppm is much higher than the fluoride level added to water in fluoridation programs (0.7–1.2 ppm), these results are in congruence with previous studies[22] from China that indicate that fluoride may affect IQ at lower levels"

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6309358/

    Exposing them to 8 times the normal amount of fluoride that's in the water from a flouridation program to show that it had a negative effect is a bit disingenuous. Fairly sure if you exposed kids to 8 times the normal of any other substance it would have a negative effect too.

    If you only count the fluoride from the water. I've pointed out 2 other sources that contribute to excessive amounts of this crap. There are others as well from other food sources. Many people in Ireland are suffering the health consequences of this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    Yes - and rightly so!

    Because you are ignorant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,896 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    my guy you have gone off the deep end :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,085 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    I only drink water, and then only a glass a day, with sugar free squash in it. Tesco apple and blackcurrant or supervalus version.
    Otherwise it's tea all the way.

    Our tap water is actually perfect. I just don't like the stuff:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,591 ✭✭✭Padraig Mor


    BloodBath wrote: »
    Because you are ignorant.

    Nope, a scientist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    Nope, a scientist.

    In what field? What studies have you done in this area?

    Or are you one of these sports scientists who thinks he knows everything because he did a 3-4 year course in college.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    BloodBath wrote: »
    If you only count the fluoride from the water. I've pointed out 2 other sources that contribute to excessive amounts of this crap. There are others as well from other food sources. Many people in Ireland are suffering the health consequences of this.

    When you say many people in Ireland are suffering the health consequences, how many people are effected by it?

    There's plenty of evidence casting doubts on the findings of some of those studies linking fluoride to lower IQs but, I'm fairly certain that no matter how much evidence is presented you won't change your belief that water flouridation does more harm than good.

    https://www.ada.org/en/publications/ada-news/2019-archive/august/responses-to-fluoride-study-flood-in-from-all-over-the-globe

    Stuart Ritchie, Ph.D., a lecturer at King’s College London, summed up his misgivings about the study by saying, “I wouldn’t have much confidence in this finding being robust or replicable.”


    Dr. Oliver Jones, associate professor of analytical chemistry at RMIT University in Australia, said that “there is also a lot of variation in the data — which makes drawing firm conclusions/predictions from it difficult. There are also a number of potential confounding factors, including the fact that the water intake was self-reported and, as the authors admit, some of the methods used are not validated.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4815566/

    First, the question is not whether community water fluoridation (CWF) reduces IQ, but whether or not total fluoride intake reduces IQ. Broadbent et al. acknowledge that CWF likely represents less than 50% of total fluoride intake. Their study did not determine total fluoride exposure, nor did it simultaneously control for the three sources of fluoride intake: CWF, fluoride supplements, and fluoride toothpaste.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,968 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    BloodBath wrote: »
    The mouthwashes even tell you not to rinse your mouth after using them.

    The reason you're told not to rinse after using mouthwash is to *preserve* the beneficial effect of the fluoride in it for as long as possible. Not because tap water is in some way dangerous *rolly eyes*

    Back on topic, OP, infusing your water is a great way to make it more palatable but be very wary of using citrus fruits to do it; if you're sipping water throughout the day rather than drinking it in large goes you're essentially subjecting your teeth to a day-long acid attack. Cucumber or mint are your best bets.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    Most of it is not diagnosed. Doctors don't give nutritional advice. They give you medications to treat ailments. They don't find the source of the ailment if it stems from poor nutrition. Most doctors don't know a thing about nutrition or gut bacteria.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    Dial Hard wrote: »
    The reason you're told not to rinse after using mouthwash is to *preserve* the beneficial effect of the fluoride in it for as long as possible. Not because tap water is in some way dangerous *rolly eyes*

    Back on topic, OP, infusing your water is a great way to make it more palatable but be very wary of using citrus fruits to do it; if you're sipping water throughout the day rather than drinking it in large goes you're essentially subjecting your teeth to a day-long acid attack. Cucumber or mint are your best bets.

    There is no beneficial effect to ingesting fluoride. Quite the opposite. There's a whole list of health detriments from ingesting too much of it.

    Leaving mouthwash in your mouth is causing you to absorb even more of it.

    Many Irish people are ingesting too much of it from multiple sources. Tap water, tea, toothpaste and mouthwash. This is irrefutable.

    The Chlorine is proven to also damage the gut bacteria.

    Roll your eyes all you want. A lot of Irish people drink a lot of black tea using tap water. I'd assume most people use toothpaste and mouthwash at least twice a day as well. If you think this isn't a problem then you have your head in the sand.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    BloodBath wrote: »
    Most of it is not diagnosed. Doctors don't give nutritional advice. They give you medications to treat ailments. They don't find the source of the ailment if it stems from poor nutrition. Most doctors don't know a thing about nutrition or gut bacteria.

    Can I ask you your opinion on the rollout of 5g across the world?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    Can I ask you your opinion on the rollout of 5g across the world?

    Typical attitude of morons. This isn't a conspiracy theory.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    BloodBath wrote: »
    Typical attitude of morons. This isn't a conspiracy theory.

    I never said it was a conspiracy theory you're reading words that weren't in my post.

    You still didn't answer the question either?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    I never said it was a conspiracy theory you're reading words that weren't in my post.

    You still didn't answer the question either?

    Don't play dumb. You know exactly what you are suggesting saying that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,670 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    BloodBath wrote: »
    It's not just the fluoride in the water. Like I said there's also Chlorine. Do you drink tea as well? Do you rinse your mouth well after brushing your teeth. The mouthwashes even tell you not to rinse your mouth after using them. You don't think you are swallowing a reasonable amount here as well if you don't?

    Here's a study with tea using tap water.

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/296636052_Risk_Assessment_of_Fluoride_Intake_from_Tea_in_the_Republic_of_Ireland_and_its_Implications_for_Public_Health_and_Water_Fluoridation

    https://www.fsai.ie/details.aspx?id=16175

    "Based on the results of this study, the FSAI Scientific Committee concluded that there is currently no scientific basis for concerns about the safety of children and adults in Ireland from exposure to fluoride from foods and beverages."


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    BloodBath wrote: »
    Don't play dumb. You know exactly what you are suggesting saying that.

    I'm not playing dumb the fluoride in the drinking water has reduced my IQ through no fault of my own.

    You still haven't answered the question though, are you dodging it for some reason?


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    Get a grip of yourself OP. Just drink it. Its only water.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,094 ✭✭✭stevek93


    Get a grip of yourself OP. Just drink it. Its only water.

    First world problems, send the OP to a country with no drinking water and will soon think again about what is what.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    I'm not playing dumb the fluoride in the drinking water has reduced my IQ through no fault of my own.

    You still haven't answered the question though, are you dodging it for some reason?

    Haha very good.

    I'm dodging it because it has no relevance to this thread. I also don't have an opinion on it.
    https://www.fsai.ie/details.aspx?id=16175

    "Based on the results of this study, the FSAI Scientific Committee concluded that there is currently no scientific basis for concerns about the safety of children and adults in Ireland from exposure to fluoride from foods and beverages."

    Oh I guess that wraps everything up in a neat little package.

    Not gonna spend the day arguing with zealots. Good luck to ye lads.


  • Registered Users Posts: 220 ✭✭Lyan


    I have no opinion on this flouride stuff, but I believe that in general if you have to use ad hominems as an argument then you don't really know much yourself. Just my two cents.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    Lyan wrote: »
    I have no opinion on this flouride stuff, but I believe that in general if you have to use ad hominems as an argument then you don't really know much yourself. Just my two cents.

    Some ad hominems are deserved in fairness.

    If it's ok for someone to suggest you are a conspiracy theorist loon for stating facts then it's ok for me to call him a moron in my book.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭LessOutragePlz


    BloodBath wrote: »
    Some ad hominems are deserved in fairness.

    If it's ok for someone to suggest you are a conspiracy theorist loon for stating facts then it's ok for me to call him a moron in my book.

    You're not stating facts though you've listed some studies that have very questionable findings as many academics have found the basis of those studies and methodologies don't stand up to closer scrutiny but you can keep telling yourself that it's an indisputable fact that fluoride causes a reduction in people's IQs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    Over 400 studies suggesting fluoride is a neurotoxin that damages the brain and reduces cognitive ability.

    https://fluoridealert.org/issues/health/brain/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,670 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    BloodBath wrote: »
    Oh I guess that wraps everything up in a neat little package.

    Not gonna spend the day arguing with zealots. Good luck to ye lads.

    Sorry for presenting a study that disagreed with you.

    Perhaps you could critique the scientific method of the study and why any you had presented provide a more robust case.

    The irony of you calling people zealots.


  • Registered Users Posts: 220 ✭✭Lyan


    BloodBath wrote: »
    Some ad hominems are deserved in fairness.

    If it's ok for someone to suggest you are a conspiracy theorist loon for stating facts then it's ok for me to call him a moron in my book.

    I wasn't just addressing you by the way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    BloodBath wrote: »
    There is no beneficial effect to ingesting fluoride.

    So what's the reason for it being added to water?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,670 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Effects wrote: »
    So what's the reason for it being added to water?

    Big Toothpaste.

    They found a way to get us addicted to it. Fluoride gets added to water and next thing we're all brushing our teeth using toothpaste multiple times a day.

    However, now Big Water is getting involved and want to frame tap water as being a health hazard so that we go out and buy bottled water and the like.


  • Registered Users Posts: 397 ✭✭ellee


    I used lemon and/or lime. One of those with some cucumber as well is lovely and refreshing

    Do not do this, it damages your enamel if you are sipping acidic water all day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,635 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    If your body needs more water it will make you thirsty and you will want to drink it.

    Anything after that isn’t needed and you’ll just pass it out needlessly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,172 ✭✭✭cannotlogin


    I don't like it either but the following help:-


    1) Mint, cucumber and ice cubes
    2) Alternate still & sparking
    3) Alternate between cold water (drink straight) & warm water (drink like you would a cup of tea)
    4) Flavoured water - tesco brand is good, volvic not so much
    5) Diluting with lime, cranberry or pineapple is often nicer than miwadi


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