Can we have some fcuking control on the airports from high risk countries please?

ShineOn7

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

The hse are a Fcukin disgrace why is there not strong laws against travel from countries where the r rate is much higher than here?

I agree completely on the travel bans for certain countries, but I don't think it comes under HSE's jurisdiction does it?

jojofizzio

ShineOn7 wrote: »

I agree completely on the travel bans for certain countries, but I don't think it comes under HSE's jurisdiction does it?

The HSE don’t make any laws...the Department of Health (CMO) make recommendations to the government around all public health issues including travel,and it’s completely up to the government whether they act on these recommendations or not

quartz1

We have a new Government and I appreciate it might takes time for them to get established but action should have been taken on travel ..we don't have the luxury of time . ..,.we are allowing tourists to fly in here from the US and today they set a new record for cases .... ..how responsible is that .... theres a functioning Dail that could have passed legislation to at least.make it illegal for them to ignore Quarantine

Spanish Eyes

The only solution for those arriving from Covid hotspots like Brazil (via allowed hubs), US, Sweden and so on is mandatory quarantine in unoccupied co living spaces and/or hotels, if necessary subsidised by the State.

Yes I know, I know but it would be money well spent IMV. Otherwise this will not end well. Of course returning holidaymakers/travellers from the permitted countries are a risk also, but not as much as the above countries

ShineOn7

Email your TDs about this and the Ministers for Health and Transport departments

All their contact details are here.

(Link above opens in your Spreadsheet software)

Us giving out about it on an internet forum won't result in any changes. We need to back up our warranted concerns about this with action

marvin80

jay0109 wrote: »

Nope, hence I said 'make of that what you will'!

Did Holohan not say in his press conference a few days ago when this cluster was first revealed that they had come in through Belfast? I'm near certain I'd saw that referenced here that evening

They were very reckless and irresponsible - that's the issue people are annoyed with. They've caused 10% of all Sligo's cases in the space of a few days.

They travelled from Iraq to Ireland in the middle of a pandemic.
Let's say they came in via Dublin - why did his brother have to drive from Sligo to collect him? They could have got a bus back to Sligo.

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/up-to-14-members-of-the-same-family-at-centre-of-covid-cluster-in-sligo-1008362.html

“He did everything he was told - he filled out the required contact form at Dublin Airport and he returned to Sligo to self isolate,” the man's brother added.

“He had a meal in my parent's house and then he returned to the apartment he lives in with his wife and child. The next day, on Tuesday, he went for a test and he then returned to his apartment.

He was meant to be self-isolating but went off for dinner in his parents house - ridiculous.

gral6

It looks like useless quarantine would be lifted by the middle of next week ! First good decision by new gov !

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Spanish Eyes wrote: »

The only solution for those arriving from Covid hotspots like Brazil (via allowed hubs), US, Sweden and so on is mandatory quarantine in unoccupied co living spaces and/or hotels, if necessary subsidised by the State.

Yes I know, I know but it would be money well spent IMV. Otherwise this will not end well. Of course returning holidaymakers/travellers from the permitted countries are a risk also, but not as much as the above countries

It would cost a fortune but anyone who argues that it’s too expensive doesn’t see the bigger picture of how much it would cost us to not do it.

Just like opening pubs to save jobs in the sector could set off another wave and have another load of people on €350 a week, again.

I’m absolutely baffled by people not thinking ahead during this. Ah sure it’ll be grand attitude. Like when they announced the €350 and everyone was all “playin a blinder lads”, yes it was a good idea at the start but it was weeks before the press started saying “hang on, this’ll cost a few quid lads” and everyone reacting with “****, that’s a lot of money”.

ShineOn7

Via Reddit

The UK is apparently discussing restricting tourists from the US, essentially because of agreements we cannot do it unless they do.

Is this true? We can't ban USA till the UK do?

That doesn't make sense surely

Atlantic Dawn

What they are doing at the moment in not telling people it's safe to travel to EU countries is idiotic, this tactic will result in much more tourists from these countries arriving here as no Irish travellers will be taking capacity on the flights outbound and back.

Spanish Eyes

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Via Reddit




Is this true? We can't ban USA till the UK do?

That doesn't make sense surely

Baffled by that to be quite honest. But there may be as mentioned, some agreements re visa free travel using ESTA or something like that.

Be interesting to see what transpires.

quartz1

quartz1 wrote: »

We have a new Government and I appreciate it might takes time for them to get established but action should have been taken on travel ..we don't have the luxury of time . ..,.we are allowing tourists to fly in here from the US and today they set a new record for cases .... ..how responsible is that .... theres a functioning Dail that could have passed legislation to at least.make it illegal for them to ignore Quarantine

We have a new government comprising of the same 2 main parties of the last government, its hardly an excuse.

ShineOn7

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Via Reddit




Is this true? We can't ban USA till the UK do?

That doesn't make sense surely

I can’t think of why it hasn’t been done already. There must have been a reason, so perhaps it was CTA related.

Seen a couple of sources today saying that UK is working on the legislation to ban travelers from USA other than EU/EEA/UK citizens, permanent residency card holders and families. Just like the rest of Europe. Ireland would be the last left to have unrestricted US arrivals if they did

ZX7R

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I can’t think of why it hasn’t been done already. There must have been a reason, so perhaps it was CTA related.

Seen a couple of sources today saying that UK is working on the legislation to ban travelers from USA other than EU/EEA/UK citizens, permanent residency card holders and families. Just like the rest of Europe. Ireland would be the last left to have unrestricted US arrivals if they did

The UK already have the US on there there list for mandatory quarantine for travelers on arrival

ZX7R

ZX7R wrote: »

The UK already have the US on there there list for mandatory quarantine for travelers on arrival

I know. But that’s not the same as restricting entry, like schengen countries do. Quarantine is as much a joke as in Ireland. My understanding was from reports yesterday that they are looking at a US travel ban

You can’t every fly from the USA to anywhere in Germany, and US citizens, unless family members of an EU citizen, will get turned away from most EU countries

ShineOn7

gral6 wrote: »

I have e-mailed my TD. He has replied that gov are looking into it and all the travel restrictions are planned to be lifted completely after 23rd July. Happy days !

Eh?

So there's zero control of who's coming in after July 23rd? Ireland will be open to all?

ZX7R

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Eh?

So there's zero control of who's coming in after July 23rd? Ireland will be open to all?

If this was the case we would have to enforce the list of none travel issued by the EU commission

ZX7R

gral6 wrote: »

I have e-mailed my TD. He has replied that gov are looking into it and all the travel restrictions are planned to be lifted completely after 23rd July. Happy days !

Who's your TD?

gral6

gral6 wrote: »

I have e-mailed my TD. He has replied that gov are looking into it and all the travel restrictions are planned to be lifted completely after 23rd July. Happy days !

Difficult to believe as literally no other country is going to do that

joseywhales

DebDynamite wrote: »

Why can you not fly in when we have American tourists flying in? Is the problem that you won’t get back as you’re not a US citizen?

No I can technically go, I want to do the right thing though, so I will follow what the CMO says, since his opinion and the opinion of public health doctors in Ireland are the only one's that matter, regarding a pandemic.

There is also risk of a sudden rule change in a few days or a few weeks, so I am waiting for the CMO to say its ok for Irish people to return for non essential reasons and they will not have to quarantine for 14 days.

For me essential is bereavement, work or medical reasons.

I am due to be the godfather at a christening but I don't think that is essential for example.

I'm not going to lie.

ShineOn7

More slight media coverage. No major outlets that I've seen picking it up so far though

Multiple reports of American tourists visiting Ireland causing concern among locals

https://www.irishpost.com/news/multiple-reports-of-american-tourists-visiting-ireland-causing-concern-among-locals-188234

ShineOn7

On a friend's Twitter. They work at Dublin airport

"The airport is packed with people arriving. Very few Irish among them"

I think we're in big trouble

Our Government are spineless!

gral6

joseywhales wrote: »

I am due to be the godfather at a christening but I don't think that is essential for example.

I'm not going to lie.

Feel sorry for you ! Keep hiding !

Dufflecoat Fanny

keep an eye on https://www.flightradar24.com/ to whats landing here

joseywhales

gral6 wrote: »

Feel sorry for you ! Keep hiding !

It's my duty to my fellow humans

gral6

It is good to see that people are flying a lot now ! Thanks god, Dublin airport is rising from the dead ! Thousands of people come back to work there !

milli milli

gral6 wrote: »

It is good to see that people are flying a lot now ! Thanks god, Dublin airport is rising from the dead ! Thousands of people come back to work there !

What is wrong with you? You do realise that letting in lots of tourists (especially from the high-risk countries) will cause a surge here - undoing all the good we’ve achieved?

spurious

A friend of mine told me there is a bus load of Americans wandering around Adare this weekend. Can that be true?

ZX7R

milli milli wrote: »

What is wrong with you? You do realise that letting in lots of tourists (especially from the high-risk countries) will cause a surge here - undoing all the good we’ve achieved?

Millli I think people need to look at the bigger picture of tourism
The reality is the big issue is not so much tourist visiting rather us returning from holidays.
For example Spanish tourists coming to Ireland.
The biggest number of Spanish tourists are students most come in the summer for education camps or as exchange students all the summer camps are cancelled that is thousands of people that won't be visiting this year.
And if you're worried about Americans I would not worry as most were coming in via UK to the north thankfully the UK have a mandatory isolation for American visitors starting next week now and the northern Ireland assembly has also ratified it so even if they try to get a connecting flight to the north they will be still subject to the qurantine

gral6

spurious wrote: »

A friend of mine told me there is a bus load of Americans wandering around Adare this weekend. Can that be true?

Together with brazilians off course?