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Warrior Nun [Netflix]

  • 17-06-2020 4:27pm
    #1
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    This looks ... well, I don't know. The "superpowers as analogy of adolescence" feels utterly played out and don't care for, but as a trashy summer show it could have potential.

    The evil plan being a TV budget version of "Doom" got my attention too.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,140 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    another supernatural female warrior netflix show https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XelS6fQbuo


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,958 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    I saw the trailer for this earlier and it seems like one of those things that will either be beyond terrible or completely amazing. I'll definitely be giving it a shot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,274 ✭✭✭EoinMcLovin


    Out today


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,958 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    I watched the first 2 episodes of this today and I'm not sure about it. There's a lot of set up and even after the 2 episodes I'm still not entirely sure what's going on. Also there's a voiceover which I find unnecessary but it was used less in ep2 so hopefully it dies off eventually.
    I'll probably watch the rest of it eventually but I'm not excited about it at this point.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,375 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    Wrapped up 4th episode; I was hoping for an action packed summer movie style romp with demon slaying with banter and well it's anything but that sadly. Best description is cliche low budget teenage drama...


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,958 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    Nody wrote: »
    Wrapped up 4th episode; I was hoping for an action packed summer movie style romp with demon slaying with banter and well it's anything but that sadly. Best description is cliche low budget teenage drama...

    I was hoping for something like Wynonna Earp, real stakes and drama but doesn't take itself too seriously, bit of fun and plenty of laughs thrown in with the action.
    I've seen a few people say they've finished it already and are hoping for more, so maybe it improves.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,375 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    I was hoping for something like Wynonna Earp, real stakes and drama but doesn't take itself too seriously, bit of fun and plenty of laughs thrown in with the action.
    I've seen a few people say they've finished it already and are hoping for more, so maybe it improves.
    Finished episode 6; had a good scene with "I just want to be normal" scene was the first real laugh out loud moment. Main character has been an annoying twerp so far but it's slowly improving. I can fully understand people wanting more because I don't see a clear resolution to happen in the last 4 episodes and to date it's been all about setting the scene so to speak.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,559 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Haven't watched any yet, but I'm guessing it's not exactly Buffy?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,375 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    Haven't watched any yet, but I'm guessing it's not exactly Buffy?
    Definitely not Buffy; a lot less slaying and a lot more drama lama ding dong "Oh does he love me or not" and "obvious evil bad guy is obviously doing evil bad stuff things". Episode 7 has picked up the pace however but the first five episodes could definitely have benefited from being shortened.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,375 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    Ok finished it; try to survive the first five episodes ineptness because the final four are (imo) worth it and as noted above this better get a second season. It takes waaaay to long to get going but once it does it only gets better and yes it does end on a cliff hanger annoyingly.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,534 ✭✭✭sioda


    Yup I'd have to agree with Nody second half of the season really saves it and I'd happily watch another season.

    Twist in the last ep is well done and Jaoquim De Almeida is always watchable tbh


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,003 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    So the reviews I read said the first five are slow set up and then it picks up a lot - looks like that seems to be true then. Might give it a chance as I liked Simon Barry's "Continuum".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,878 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    I have watched episode one...it's in a word...odd.
    The tone is all over the place, the acting is let's say uneven, the voiceover is also kind of off-putting.
    But having said all that will I watch more....probably. It does look pretty good for a tv show, they have clearly spent a decent amount on it.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,958 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    Watched a few more episodes there tonight. After 4 episodes things finally seem to be happening but tonally it's still a bit off. I still hate the voiceover, it's so unnecessarySome of what she says they could just be showing us, and a lot of times she could just be speaking out loud to herself and it would make sense. And the friends/love interest scenes kill the vibe entirely every time the pace starts to pick up.
    All that said, the one proper fight scene in episode 4 was impressive. I'm going to need more of that if I'm going to stick with it.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,375 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    Watched a few more episodes there tonight. After 4 episodes things finally seem to be happening but tonally it's still a bit off. I still hate the voiceover, it's so unnecessarySome of what she says they could just be showing us, and a lot of times she could just be speaking out loud to herself and it would make sense. And the friends/love interest scenes kill the vibe entirely every time the pace starts to pick up.
    All that said, the one proper fight scene in episode 4 was impressive. I'm going to need more of that if I'm going to stick with it.
    Episode 6 is when things start to make the turn basically and things basically improve every episode going forward from there.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,958 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    I finished episode 6 and it was probably the best of the season so far. Having Ava and Mary share multiple proper conversations was what really moved the story, and Ava's character in particular, along. Still feels like we could have gotten to the same place in 2 episodes, or an extended pilot episode, with some tighter writing and less love interest guy.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,958 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    Finished it tonight and pretty much agree with what everyone else has said. It's slow going for the first half and then really picks up from 6 on wards. I really hope there's a second season, which is not something I thought I'd say when I was falling asleep during episode 3 :D

    For anyone who has watched it all.... I'm still not 100% sure what's going on
    The "angel" is actually a devil, or THE devil? Fr. Vincent was working for him and manipulating the entire Order and Ava the whole time? The first Warrior Nun knew what/who yer man was and went along with it to keep the halo, but presumably eventually went against him and that's how the halo started getting passed down, to keep it from him? And then the Vatican got involved and were twisting it all for their own benefit? And Cardinal Whatshisname genuinely had no idea about any of it and was just hustling to become Pope?


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Rex Gentle Flame


    Finished it tonight and pretty much agree with what everyone else has said. It's slow going for the first half and then really picks up from 6 on wards. I really hope there's a second season, which is not something I thought I'd say when I was falling asleep during episode 3 :D

    For anyone who has watched it all.... I'm still not 100% sure what's going on
    The "angel" is actually a devil, or THE devil? Fr. Vincent was working for him and manipulating the entire Order and Ava the whole time? The first Warrior Nun knew what/who yer man was and went along with it to keep the halo, but presumably eventually went against him and that's how the halo started getting passed down, to keep it from him? And then the Vatican got involved and were twisting it all for their own benefit? And Cardinal Whatshisname genuinely had no idea about any of it and was just hustling to become Pope?

    *a* devil. yes to the rest, although the first warrior nun kept her mouth shut because she'd be dead otherwise. Vincent framed Duretti who just wanted to be pope


    agree it got a lot better during the second half! looking forward to another season hopefully there's one


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,958 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    And thoughts on...
    the big demon things? They were obviously chasing the devil guy, and he killed one with the "halo" which might not be a halo and is obviously not his. Their skeletons are made of Divinium, and Sister Lilith seems in fine form for someone who was apparently killed by one and dragged to "hell". So.... are they Angels? Or good, at least?


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Rex Gentle Flame


    And thoughts on...
    the big demon things? They were obviously chasing the devil guy, and he killed one with the "halo" which might not be a halo and is obviously not his. Their skeletons are made of Divinium, and Sister Lilith seems in fine form for someone who was apparently killed by one and dragged to "hell". So.... are they Angels? Or good, at least?

    Yeah I was debating that as well.
    I think
    since the tarask was going around killing people it seems to not indicate that it's an angel although maybe it's a human/anthill perspective :p
    I think it's part of what we will have to find out next season


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,375 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    And thoughts on...
    the big demon things? They were obviously chasing the devil guy, and he killed one with the "halo" which might not be a halo and is obviously not his. Their skeletons are made of Divinium, and Sister Lilith seems in fine form for someone who was apparently killed by one and dragged to "hell". So.... are they Angels? Or good, at least?
    I think
    that he stole the "halo" from hell and most likely from "Satan". Speculation would be that he's a devil who went against "insert Satan character" and stole power / was to be killed and stole the halo and fled with Satan sending his attack dogs after him to recover it (hence their ability to teleport to the "halo" when in use). That's also why he's got the armor & weapons of divinium which in reality is simply hell forged metal (which also makes up their demons somehow...) and that's why it's effective at killing demons as well as well as why he can call "lesser" demons to his aid using it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,337 ✭✭✭Bandana boy


    Nearly quit 2-3 time in early episodes as there are many problems with pacing , annoying lead and the voice overs ,but premise was intriguing , the fight scene with chain mail mask came just in time to keep me watching and then second half it ramped up into a really good show.

    Pace for the last couple of episodes was great and the pivot in last episode left me wanting way more.
    I took the trask Demon thing to be a kind of tracking Hellhound rather than an angel , but you could argue that if its returning devils to hell it might be heavenly in origin , I think that would be a great twist if that was the case. Also cannot wait to find out more about Adriel , is he a fallen angel , surely not the fallen angel , or just a man sentanced to hell who found a way back. lots to explore


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,958 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    Nearly quit 2-3 time in early episodes as there are many problems with pacing , annoying lead and the voice overs ,but premise was intriguing , the fight scene with chain mail mask came just in time to keep me watching and then second half it ramped up into a really good show.

    I didn't find the lead annoying, as such, but when she was mainly interacting with the bland love interest and his friends it felt really awkward and forced. TV shows usually do chemistry tests between actors, but that whole section at the start with Ava and that group felt like none of them had ever met before they started filming.
    The episode that was mainly Ava and Mary in the little town together was when it started turning around for me, and then when she fully committed to the order it took off. I saw some videos on Twitter of the nuns training together before filming so it's entirely possibly they did just have a more natural chemistry when it came to filming.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,954 ✭✭✭Banjaxed82


    Nody wrote: »
    Ok finished it; try to survive the first five episodes ineptness because the final four are (imo) worth it and as noted above this better get a second season. It takes waaaay to long to get going but once it does it only gets better and yes it does end on a cliff hanger annoyingly.

    Jesus how do you persevere after 5 episodes? I abandon ship after 1 episode if I'm not feeling it.

    Is it a completionist thing or what's the motivation when something is at the point where you're surviving it?

    Seriously.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,958 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    Banjaxed82 wrote: »
    Jesus how do you persevere after 5 episodes? I abandon ship after 1 episode if I'm not feeling it.

    Is it a completionist thing or what's the motivation when something is at the point where you're surviving it?

    Seriously.

    I can't speak for Nody but I don't think the first few episodes are necessarily bad, they're just very slow and the main character goes back and forth so many times, somewhat unnecessarily, that you're just willing something big to happen, and eventually it does.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,954 ✭✭✭Banjaxed82


    I can't speak for Nody but I don't think the first few episodes are necessarily bad, they're just very slow and the main character goes back and forth so many times, somewhat unnecessarily, that you're just willing something big to happen, and eventually it does.

    To be honest, maybe it says more about me, but my Netflix "Continue Watching" is a graveyard of films/shows with just small notches on the red progress bar.

    Probably why I miss the cinema so much. Someone else has the remote. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,868 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Finished it tonight and it is definitely a building series - gets better with each episode and quite liked the whole Vatican/church aspect
    I thought it was actually an alternate dimension being with some kind of super powered weapon (in the origin story looked like an halo but in the actual reveal it looked like something else - else what is the point of the whole side story of another dimension that the divinium can open and for the kid to go to


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,958 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    fritzelly wrote: »
    I thought it was actually an alternate dimension being with some kind of super powered weapon (in the origin story looked like an halo but in the actual reveal it looked like something else - else what is the point of the whole side story of another dimension that the divinium can open and for the kid to go to

    I think the whole idea of the scientist storyline was
    she's saying that what the church refers to as heaven and hell do exist but they're actually alternate dimensions rather than a fluffy place in the sky you ascend to after death.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,958 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    I thought I saw something in the last episode and went back for a closer look.
    when Fr. Vincent is carrying Ava out of the tomb there's a shot of her over his shoulder and you can see his arm (I think) is glowing blue in places. It was probably just a little hint at what was about to be revealed, but I'm wondering are his tattoos divinium, or are they hiding something on his arms that are divinium? Whatever it is I assume that's how Adreil was able to communicate with him. Same as how he could talk to the boy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,534 ✭✭✭sioda


    I thought I saw something in the last episode and went back for a closer look.
    when Fr. Vincent is carrying Ava out of the tomb there's a shot of her over his shoulder and you can see his arm (I think) is glowing blue in places. It was probably just a little hint at what was about to be revealed, but I'm wondering are his tattoos divinium, or are they hiding something on his arms that are divinium? Whatever it is I assume that's how Adreil was able to communicate with him. Same as how he could talk to the boy.
    I saw the same I'm pretty sure makes a lot of sense


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,053 ✭✭✭opus


    Finished watching it this evening, for sure a bit slow going at the start. Impressive how JC & his gang vanished from the plot never to be mentioned again!
    As a matter of interest any suggestions where the kid disappeared to when the portal opened? Other dimension/hell/somewhere else?


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,958 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    opus wrote: »
    Finished watching it this evening, for sure a bit slow going at the start. Impressive how JC & his gang vanished from the plot never to be mentioned again!
    As a matter of interest any suggestions where the kid disappeared to when the portal opened? Other dimension/hell/somewhere else?

    I kept expecting JC to show up again but was so relieved when he didn't. That whole plot line seemed like a tool for a lot of exposition with the tech company and for Ava's initial feelings about experiencing a normal life. And I get why that was necessary for her character, but it really killed the pace for a large chunk of time. As for the
    portal thingy, I'm going with it being what the church refers to as heaven, but is scientifically speaking another dimension. I think it would be interesting for them not to completely dismiss the religious side of things but still kind of having a scientific explanation for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,559 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    watched this over the past couple of days. I saw comments about the first half being really slow, but I actually found the whole season pretty easy to get through. True, there were parts they could've done without but nothing that ruined my enjoyment.
    Though I was wondering how Ava was so wise to world on some things, like knowing what squatting is, then find out all she did was watch tv.
    But would think she would've been restricted in what she could watch.

    Compared to other season finales this was
    a lot less subtle. Usually seasons end with an arc resolved and then a tease/setup for the second season. This basically went the route of the Angel series finale.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,958 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    CastorTroy wrote: »

    Compared to other season finales this was
    a lot less subtle. Usually seasons end with an arc resolved and then a tease/setup for the second season. This basically went the route of the Angel series finale.

    It felt like a mid season finale. I really expected them to announce there was a part 2 already filmed that would be out in a few months. But apparently not.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,958 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    Officially renewed for S2. I'm glad, I just hope they keep up the pace that they had at the end of s1.

    https://twitter.com/netflix/status/1296084227276980225?s=20


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,958 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    Looks like we'll finally get some S2 news at this Geeked Week thing. I'm only expecting a release date, but a trailer would be nice.

    Reading back through this thread I'm thinking WTF? about a lot of it, so I think a re-watch of S1 might be required before S2 lands.



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,958 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,559 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Think this might need a rewatch before season 2 releases. Been so long.



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,958 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    Definitely. I read through this thread a while back and couldn't remember what half of it meant.



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,958 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    Are they just going to surprise drop the whole thing next week or something?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,274 ✭✭✭EoinMcLovin


    Have Netflix done this with other shows as in surprise drop of episodes?



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,958 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    Not with any of their big shows, which is what worries me. Usually they have a fairly clear release schedule for them.

    They didn't list Warrior Nun on their list of release dates for the rest of 2022, which led most fans to believe it wouldn't be out until early next year. But now this sounds like it's coming sooner than that?

    Really I'm thinking about the possibility of a S3, which seems pretty slim with how long they've taken to give us S2, and if they're not going to give it much promo, or the same kind of push they give other shows then it seems even less likely. But maybe they'll wrap everything up in S2 and we won't need a S3.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,559 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    I would compare this to something like Russian Doll for how much notice would be given for a release date. That was about a month's notice I think. I know there were others that had a short window between announcement and release.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,274 ✭✭✭EoinMcLovin




  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,958 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    November 10th, very busy weekend for new releases.



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,958 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    I've started rewatching S1 to refresh my memory before S2 comes out. The early episodes aren't as slow as I remember them being, but that might just be because knowing what happens by the end of the season sheds a new light on a lot of scenes.

    Knowing the boring love interest and his friends are pretty much irrelevant actually makes them less annoying, and that whole plot line does a much better job at illustrating the life Ava had missed out on, and why she's not just running to join the nuns as soon as she wakes up, than I remember.

    I'm also aware on rewatch that the scientist plot line is actually important, so I'm paying much more attention to it than I did on first watch. I know a lot happens in the last few episodes, but I might actually understand a bit more of it this time around.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,411 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    It's a YA fantasy adventure. Only problem is, a lot of the original audience aren't YA anymore.

    This too shall pass.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,559 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    You just have to accept that you're a young adult. 😀



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,958 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    Hey, don't get me wrong, I have watched and enjoyed a lot more YA since I stopped being a YA....... but I just wouldn't have said Warrior Nun was in that category



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