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Greenway Holiday

  • 15-06-2020 10:16pm
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    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 32,875 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Seth Brundle


    Myself and herself are thinking of some kind of break (maybe a week) later during the Summer when things calm down (and we can travel). We'd be dragging taking our two teenagers along.
    One idea is to traipse along one of the greenways.
    Herself wouldn't be a cyclist and wouldn't be keen on spending time on the road so a greenway would be perfect.
    There is the Mullingar one but that may be too close to home to be a holiday.
    Given that, there are really only two that I can think of (please correct me if I'm wrong) - the Great Western in Mayo or the Deise in Waterford.
    I think something that could keep the three of them occupied with an occasional cafe along the route would be perfect.
    Has anyone been on these and would they recommend it?
    I'd be thinking of self-catering - any good accommodation (3 bed house!) suggestions along one or other of these routes?
    I know that they're short but the options here aren't all that great, I guess!
    Any attractions that you'd suggest that mightn't be in the usual tourist advice?

    I'm aware of the map created by riddlinrussell here... but don't know if more greenways have opened up since then.
    Any advice appreciated.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,641 ✭✭✭ cletus


    Myself and herself are thinking of some kind of break (maybe a week) later during the Summer when things calm down (and we can travel). We'd be dragging taking our two teenagers along.
    One idea is to traipse along one of the greenways.
    Herself wouldn't be a cyclist and wouldn't be keen on spending time on the road so a greenway would be perfect.
    There is the Mullingar one but that may be too close to home to be a holiday.
    Given that, there are really only two that I can think of (please correct me if I'm wrong) - the Great Western in Mayo or the Deise in Waterford.
    I think something that could keep the three of them occupied with an occasional cafe along the route would be perfect.
    Has anyone been on these and would they recommend it?
    I'd be thinking of self-catering - any good accommodation (3 bed house!) suggestions along one or other of these routes?
    I know that they're short but the options here aren't all that great, I guess!
    Any attractions that you'd suggest that mightn't be in the usual tourist advice?

    I'm aware of the map created by riddlinrussell here... but don't know if more greenways have opened up since then.
    Any advice appreciated.

    I've been thinking of a similar thing. My idea was to park in Westport, cycle the Greenway to Achill, and have two nights booked in one of the hotels there. Spend the second day cycling around Achill, and back to Westport on the third morning.

    All obviously with plenty of stops for food and drink, along with pints on the evening


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,183 ✭✭✭ Mercian Pro


    The Royal Canal from Cloondara or Longford to Maynooth is certainly worth considering.


  • Registered Users Posts: 553 ✭✭✭ Andalucia


    Myself and herself are thinking of some kind of break (maybe a week) later during the Summer when things calm down (and we can travel). We'd be dragging taking our two teenagers along.
    One idea is to traipse along one of the greenways.
    Herself wouldn't be a cyclist and wouldn't be keen on spending time on the road so a greenway would be perfect.
    There is the Mullingar one but that may be too close to home to be a holiday.
    Given that, there are really only two that I can think of (please correct me if I'm wrong) - the Great Western in Mayo or the Deise in Waterford.
    I think something that could keep the three of them occupied with an occasional cafe along the route would be perfect.
    Has anyone been on these and would they recommend it?
    I'd be thinking of self-catering - any good accommodation (3 bed house!) suggestions along one or other of these routes?
    I know that they're short but the options here aren't all that great, I guess!
    Any attractions that you'd suggest that mightn't be in the usual tourist advice?

    I'm aware of the map created by riddlinrussell here... but don't know if more greenways have opened up since then.
    Any advice appreciated.

    I would highly recommend the Waterford Greenway. Base yourself in Dungarvan, should be plenty of options for accomodation and bike hire. The Greenway to Waterford is approx 45km in total, if you just go as far as Kilmacthomas, about 23km, lovely options for food in the Coachhouse Cafe on the Greenway or Kierseys in the village. Great scenery on this route also, along the coast and through the tunnel in Durrow. Also, you have Clonea beach in Dungarvan, hire a kayak for a morning. Plenty to do around the town and plenty of food options, the Tannery, The Moorings, Merrys, Cookhouse 360 - all well known and good quality


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,532 ✭✭✭✭ odyssey06


    cletus wrote: »
    I've been thinking of a similar thing. My idea was to park in Westport, cycle the Greenway to Achill, and have two nights booked in one of the hotels there. Spend the second day cycling around Achill, and back to Westport on the third morning. All obviously with plenty of stops for food and drink, along with pints on the evening

    Assuming they are open, this is a great pub for food, the Greenway runs behind it, between Newport and Achill.
    https://www.nevinsinn.com/

    Think they also have a few B&B rooms.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,335 ✭✭✭ Macy0161


    Some of the Kilkenny Cycling Routes are nice from what I recall - quiet roads and/or hard shoulder. I did a bit of exploring the day after the Tour De Kilkenny last year, and that was my impression. Planned to go back with one/ both children anyway!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,773 ✭✭✭ MojoMaker


    8valve of this parish also has a cycling cafe somewhere along the Waterford greenway - hopefully still going Paul??


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,357 ✭✭✭✭ Hello 2D Person Below


    I echo the Waterford suggestion.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,517 ✭✭✭✭ AndrewJRenko


    Waterford also has shuttle buses with bike collection, so if you need to change plans, injury or bad weather, you can ditch the bikes and get the shuttle bus back.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,114 ✭✭✭ PhilOssophy


    Been meaning to do the Waterford one for years, hopefully this year as have never done a cycling holiday! Cycling to work and occasionally at the weekends is probably enough!


  • Registered Users Posts: 886 ✭✭✭ Luxman


    cletus wrote: »
    I've been thinking of a similar thing. My idea was to park in Westport, cycle the Greenway to Achill, and have two nights booked in one of the hotels there. Spend the second day cycling around Achill, and back to Westport on the third morning.

    All obviously with plenty of stops for food and drink, along with pints on the evening

    The cycle around Achill when you get there is lovely, some very testing climbing to be done, but the main road through the island can be busy I found last year.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭ Large bottle small glass


    A fairly fit club cyclist will get bored pretty quickly on a Greenway, especially if there for a week.

    From Dungarvan, decent day trips would include
    *Ardmore Cliff Walk
    *The Cunnigar
    *Brickey Canal
    *Mahon Falls
    *Hike around the Cruachan/Seefin

    Some lovely quite beaches either side of Clonea, from Annestown all the way to Whiting Bay to explore.

    Wouldn't be hard to make a longer hard spin for yourself by doing one way leg on Greenway and returning on some of brilliant back roads in the area. There is a huge amount to explore.

    If you are not to precious about your road bike and weather is dry, you could ride the canal tow path to


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,641 ✭✭✭ cletus


    I think most of the suggestions on here are based around the fact that it's to be a family trip, and to quite Seth, he'll be "dragging teenagers" with him


  • Registered Users Posts: 104 ✭✭ CapnHex


    If they're like my teenagers, they have a new found appreciation for the old bike in the shed in these current times. My long game of not ditching bikes, just because they haven't beed used for a number of years finally pays off.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 32,875 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Seth Brundle


    A fairly fit club cyclist will get bored pretty quickly on a Greenway, especially if there for a week.

    From Dungarvan, decent day trips would include
    *Ardmore Cliff Walk
    *The Cunnigar
    *Brickey Canal
    *Mahon Falls
    *Hike around the Cruachan/Seefin

    Some lovely quite beaches either side of Clonea, from Annestown all the way to Whiting Bay to explore.

    Wouldn't be hard to make a longer hard spin for yourself by doing one way leg on Greenway and returning on some of brilliant back roads in the area. There is a huge amount to explore.

    If you are not to precious about your road bike and weather is dry, you could ride the canal tow path to
    Thanks for the suggestions.
    I would cover the greenway distance no bother myself and if I was out for a spin I'd get through it in no time but with family alongside, I'd be taking in the scenery and attractions. It wouldn't be a "spin" :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,737 ✭✭✭ Hurrache


    I'd say there's a few of us watching this closely, our family had an identical discussion the weekend.

    All options mentioned here have come up, bar the Mullingar Greenway which I'm not familiar with, stupidly so as it's close to family and would make a great day out


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,813 ✭✭✭ marvin80


    A fairly fit club cyclist will get bored pretty quickly on a Greenway, especially if there for a week.

    From Dungarvan, decent day trips would include
    *Ardmore Cliff Walk
    *The Cunnigar
    *Brickey Canal
    *Mahon Falls
    *Hike around the Cruachan/Seefin

    Some lovely quite beaches either side of Clonea, from Annestown all the way to Whiting Bay to explore.

    Wouldn't be hard to make a longer hard spin for yourself by doing one way leg on Greenway and returning on some of brilliant back roads in the area. There is a huge amount to explore.

    If you are not to precious about your road bike and weather is dry, you could ride the canal tow path to

    If basing yourself in Durgavan you could drive upto Carrick-on-Suir (bike hire : https://www.facebook.com/bluewaybikehire/) and cycle the Blueway upto Clonmel and back (20km each way). Plenty of coffee shops etc. in Clonmel.

    If you go to Mahon Falls it might be worth booking a hike with this guy: http://www.muddybootsguidedwalking.com/
    Did a hike last year above Mahon Falls and across to Coumshingaun Lake - not a strenuous hike but stunning:
    https://www.activeme.ie/guides/coumshingaun-loop-walk-comeraghs-waterford/


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,182 ✭✭✭ a148pro


    I'd say let your search for accommodation decide between the two. From recent experience, self catering houses are in demand so you may not find it that easy.

    There's little to choose between the two areas. Westport and Dungarvan are great towns. The Copper Coast is nice (depending on what your kids are into) and Achill also has great beaches and good surfing options.

    Just find the best fit for accommodation and choose on that basis.

    Suir blue way highly recommended, barrow way and both canals also offer good stretches if for some reason the big hitters above don't work out.

    David Flanagan's book on cycling in Ireland has a bunch more suggestions.


  • Registered Users Posts: 651 ✭✭✭ Roadtoad


    What about hiking the Wicklow Way?

    There are guide books to help. The further south you go, the fewer shops/ hostels. Could be an excellent project, if the weather was OK.
    (its not a lame hike, nor is it big mountaineering. There's a reasonable amount of planning involved.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,093 ✭✭✭ Peterx


    The waterford greenway is better for family. It's better ground, wide tarmac nearly all the way, on the old train line pretty much all the way and has two or three good cafe options.
    We stayed in an AirBnB in the middle and went out and back to both ends over the course of a weekend, good cafe options.

    The Westport to Achill one was (and is) the original trailblazer for the concept in Ireland but is not as easy ground and the last time I did it the actual greenway finished on a nondescript laneway just off Achill. There's savage ramps coming into and out of Westport.

    We cycled onto Achill and it was all a bit Father Ted. Coming into Dungarvan is much nicer to finish.
    In saying that when we did the Waterford one it also finishes outside Waterford in the middle of nowhere.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,335 ✭✭✭ Macy0161


    Hurrache wrote: »
    I'd say there's a few of us watching this closely, our family had an identical discussion the weekend.
    Definitely, although I'm waiting to push the ebike from the new programme for government on herself first!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,672 ✭✭✭ joe40


    I don't know the other Greenway but I have done the Westport one. Westport to Newport isn't particularly scenic but the rest of it is very nice. Newport and Mulranny are both pretty villages.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,737 ✭✭✭ Hurrache


    Anyone know what the North Clare Cycle network is like? Local tourism is pushing it but to me, and I've only passing familiarity with some of the area it takes in, it doesn't seem a very pleasant route to do with a family as it shares the roads with plenty of tourist traffic?


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,253 ✭✭✭✭ loyatemu


    Peterx wrote: »
    The waterford greenway is better for family. It's better ground, wide tarmac nearly all the way, on the old train line pretty much all the way and has two or three good cafe options.
    We stayed in an AirBnB in the middle and went out and back to both ends over the course of a weekend, good cafe options.

    The Westport to Achill one was (and is) the original trailblazer for the concept in Ireland but is not as easy ground and the last time I did it the actual greenway finished on a nondescript laneway just off Achill. There's savage ramps coming into and out of Westport.

    We cycled onto Achill and it was all a bit Father Ted. Coming into Dungarvan is much nicer to finish.
    In saying that when we did the Waterford one it also finishes outside Waterford in the middle of nowhere.

    I believe the Western Greenway has been extended so it now goes all the way to the bridge onto Achill (previously the final kilometre or so was on the road). There is a hotel over the bridge, but it is a bit like going back to the 80s.

    We're planning to do a bit of the Waterford Greenway later in the summer so was looking at the route. It too has been extended and now goes into Waterford City though it does still dump you out onto the quays some way short of the main city centre.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 32,875 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Seth Brundle


    Booked us a house in Waterford so Deise greenway it is :D
    Thanks for the advice folks.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 13,438 Mod ✭✭✭✭ ednwireland


    cycled from keel in achill to westport and back this time last year in one day

    100+km steady enough

    yeh achills a bit weird the chipper at keel isnt wasnt open on a saturday evening in june, they really dont help themselves - the campsite was pretty busy amaxing scenery though


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭ JMcL


    Waterford also has shuttle buses with bike collection, so if you need to change plans, injury or bad weather, you can ditch the bikes and get the shuttle bus back.

    As far as I know, the shuttle buses are run by one of the bike-hire companies, so you could cycle to Kilmac from Waterford or Dungarvan (20-25km range) and get bussed back (they've 4 depots along the way I think). The kicker is that this only applies to somebody that's rented a bike from them - you can't, or at least couldn't, decide you'd had enough and get you+your own bike a lift back to the start. I think it's an insurance thing and I had a similar-ish issue when our then 4 year old went on strike and wouldn't budge a few km out of Kilmac. I had the bright idea to go rent a trailer, but ended up having to take a bike as well as they wouldn't let me use my own in case of damage (possible damage to the bike that is).

    Anyway, I see you've decided to plump for Waterford Seth. Enjoy! there're some lovely back roads as LBSG has said. If you're good at getting out early, there're plenty of great 2-3 hour spins to be had before the crew have woken up


  • Registered Users Posts: 128 ✭✭ mayo londoner


    Personally I if I was doing the Westport to Achill Greenway the way I'd do it is to spend couple nights in Westport exploring the town, Croagh Patrick etc, then base yourself in Achill for a few days. As someone said above the Westport to Newport stretch is nothing special but from there to Achill the scenery is beautiful. Could hire a bike from Achill Island Hotel (Ostan Oilean Acla) and cycle from there to Newport and back, that's presuming you don't bring your own bikes. Nevins as mentioned above is brilliant for food and couple pints, then there's a few pubs in Mulranny Village and Mulranny Hotel itself before finishing off the cycle at Achill Island Hotel in Achill Sound(just before the bridge).

    Bringing the car and parking it up in Achill then allows you to stay a few days there in either hotels, bnb's, self catering, campsites etc and explore the island by car, would be very tough to cycle all around the island, impossible in fact if you are bringing kids. Tonnes of beaches, few restaurants, lots of nice pubs, a 9 hole golf course, fishing, hill climbing and Outdoor Pursuit camps (kayaking, windsurfing etc), horse riding etc, plenty to keep the kids occupied. The Atlantic Drive is amazing even on a bad day watching the waves crashing against the rocks and a drive up Minaun mountain overlooking Keel beach is something else on a good day.

    If you are driving down to Achill I'd highly recommend driving from Mulranny to Achill via a village called Currane, the drive is a bit of a hidden gem and has spectacular scenery with views of the Atlantic, Croagh Patrick, Clare Island and Achill Beg. Adds about 10-15mins extra on to your journey but well worth it. Couple of small beaches in Currane too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,182 ✭✭✭ a148pro


    That's actually a much nicer cycle back from achill to Westport than the greenway too, particularly if you've already done it on the way out. Great views across Clew Bay


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,182 ✭✭✭ a148pro


    Peterx wrote: »

    We cycled onto Achill and it was all a bit Father Ted.

    Have never thought of this but you're right! Stunning beaches though. On a day of either good or bad weather they're amazing.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 181 ✭✭ 4motion


    I did Waterford greenway twice in last 7 days. Caffes are open only take away no shuttle buses yet u can rent bike. Very busy at weekend. Very nice ride in weekdays.


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