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School reopenings -current plan WAS McHugh's plan

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,792 ✭✭✭Postgrad10


    They probably have to take their holidays!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,120 ✭✭✭mtoutlemonde


    I think that’s a disgrace. Have they an elite team doing the maths on all 420,000 results? Surely they could have more people working on it to get it done on time?

    I would think the chief examiner and possibly advising team could be involved for their subject??


  • Registered Users Posts: 442 ✭✭trihead


    https://www.rte.ie/news/education/2020/0716/1153786-leaving-cert-results/

    7th September results

    11th September CAO offers


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,132 ✭✭✭✭km79


    I’d like to say it’s unbelievable but ........


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,729 ✭✭✭Millem


    Sept. 7 they're saying on the news.

    Absolute nonsense. Why didn’t they hire examiners you help collate the grades?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,120 ✭✭✭mtoutlemonde


    Millem wrote: »
    Absolute nonsense. Why didn’t they hire examiners you help collate the grades?

    As ABBA sang about years ago - Money, Money, Money :)

    They sent free emails instead saying examiners 'may be needed.'


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,132 ✭✭✭✭km79


    I assume the results will only be available online ?
    Or are schools going to be closed that day to allow LC students to come in and collect results ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,729 ✭✭✭Millem


    As ABBA sang about years ago - Money, Money, Money :)

    They sent free emails instead saying examiners 'may be needed.'

    Did they refund the LC fees?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,120 ✭✭✭mtoutlemonde


    Millem wrote: »
    Did they refund the LC fees?

    And JC as well but that is miniscule to the payment of superintendents and written examiners and the postage bill.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,751 ✭✭✭mirrorwall14


    I can’t even... what is wrong with them??! This is absolutely insane


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭r93kaey5p2izun


    Exams to run in November subject to public health guidance.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,452 ✭✭✭History Queen


    Exams to run in November subject to public health guidance.

    I wonder who is going to supervise and correct them? You know.... seeing as teachers will be busy teaching.... it's almost like the Department of Education don't know how the education system works...


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,452 ✭✭✭History Queen


    Anyone know what the story is about students having to opt in to receive their grades again? Was this always meant to happen, went over my head if it was.

    https://www.education.ie/en/Press-Events/Press-Releases/2020-press-releases/PR20-07-16a.html

    Also...WOW...A THURSDAY circular....


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,870 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    As if there wasn't enough drama for this years LC students. Ah well, not much can be done I suppose since this is the message.

    Ironically the new administration is only in power a wet week, and it's not coming across as being very effective. But I digress.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,043 ✭✭✭Icsics


    ‘Operate seamlessly’ seems a bit of a reach


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭Random sample


    I would think the chief examiner and possibly advising team could be involved for their subject??

    No, SEC are not involved at all.

    Are they hoping there’ll be so few sitting exams in November that they can run regional centres, or have them all in athlone like the late June resits or those who were sick/had a bereavement?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,257 ✭✭✭deiseindublin


    SEC were not involved in this process at all. Person I know in Athlone told me only four staff were transferred over but everyone else is DES.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,257 ✭✭✭deiseindublin


    Ironically the new administration is only in power a wet week, and it's not coming across as being very effective. But I digress.
    In fairness to the new team in, you couldn't blame them, they inherited an absolute SH*T show and are doing this best to piece a solution back together. Old administration cocked up everything they went at, and all on a Friday at 6pm........


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,120 ✭✭✭mtoutlemonde


    No, SEC are not involved at all.

    Are they hoping there’ll be so few sitting exams in November that they can run regional centres, or have them all in athlone like the late June resits or those who were sick/had a bereavement?
    SEC were not involved in this process at all. Person I know in Athlone told me only four staff were transferred over but everyone else is DES.

    That's scary - I can't understand how they couldn't be involved. The DES have shown what they know about the operations of schools which is very little. No wonder they are messing up now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,257 ✭✭✭deiseindublin


    Seemingly SEC couldn't be involved because there was no assessment.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,381 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    Anyone know what the story is about students having to opt in to receive their grades again? Was this always meant to happen, went over my head if it was.

    https://www.education.ie/en/Press-Events/Press-Releases/2020-press-releases/PR20-07-16a.html

    Also...WOW...A THURSDAY circular....

    Doesn't affect us, that's why it came out on a Thursday.

    I think the opt in has to do with a calculated grade had to be submitted for all students to preserve class ranking, then if a student doesn't want them they can opt out.

    I'm sure there are a few that do genuinely want to sit the exams, but also some who opted out to force the Dept/SEC to run the exams


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,381 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    No, SEC are not involved at all.

    Are they hoping there’ll be so few sitting exams in November that they can run regional centres, or have them all in athlone like the late June resits or those who were sick/had a bereavement?

    That's a good point. English, Irish and Maths will probably have the largest number of candidates so a timetable for those would be largely the same as normal. But if only a small number opt to sit the exams, in theory multiple exams could take place at the same time where there is no overlap for candidates, shortening the timetable overall.


    According to this report 878 did not apply for calculated grades.
    https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/116-students-register-for-calculated-grades-after-leaving-cert-deadline-1004248.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭Treppen


    Seemingly SEC couldn't be involved because there was no assessment.

    Who's doing the calculations then?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,257 ✭✭✭deiseindublin


    Treppen wrote: »
    Who's doing the calculations then?

    DES with a handful of SEC staff temporarily transferred.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭Bobtheman


    From what I gather on this thread we are expected back to school . To be in the school building teaching and also live stream? Zoom classes. Really??!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭Random sample


    Bobtheman wrote: »
    From what I gather on this thread we are expected back to school . To be in the school building teaching and also live stream? Zoom classes. Really??!

    Haha.... NO.

    Maybe in some schools, but there’s no way I could teach some of my classes like that, and I’d imagine if the parents of the ones in attendance were aware of how their children behave in school, they wouldn’t want other parents listening either.

    Even taking aside the behavioural issues, some weak students need a lot of attention that I wouldn’t want parents at home listening to.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭Random sample


    Maybe the inspectorate could ask for random zoom codes so they can join in too to make sure we all have our learning outcomes covered.


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,132 ✭✭✭✭km79


    Bobtheman wrote: »
    From what I gather on this thread we are expected back to school . To be in the school building teaching and also live stream? Zoom classes. Really??!

    “Local arrangements “


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 198 ✭✭The Wordress


    Thread title should be reworded I suppose.

    I would not want to be in a position to have to organise any of this hot mess.

    There have only been 3 principalships advertised in my county since June, when usually there are 10+. I really feel for anyone in leadership positions atm :eek:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭Treppen


    Thread title should be reworded I suppose.

    I would not want to be in a position to have to organise any of this hot mess.

    There have only been 3 principalships advertised in my county since June, when usually there are 10+. I really feel for anyone in leadership positions atm :eek:

    That's true, it implies that there was/is/will be a plan.


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