The USA

Indestructable

What a KIP of a country it is. That's all.

Quantum Erasure

Wouldn't like to be a black man over there

Better Than Christ

Bit big to dismiss as a kip, tbh.

Blaze420

It was always a kip but it’s worse now with the orange imbecile (I’m not allowed to call him by his correct title of retard apparently :rolleyes:) in charge. Until he’s removed the US is nothing but a joke without a punchline.

5555555555

Funny how so many of 'Americas a kip' posts are from people who have never set foot in the US.

Blaze420

5555555555 wrote: »

Funny how so many of 'Americas a kip' posts are from people who have never set foot in the US.

You don’t need to step in a dog **** to know it’s dog **** do you?

ChikiChiki

5555555555 wrote: »

Funny how so many of 'Americas a kip' posts are from people who have never set foot in the US.

Been in it a few times. Its a strange place becoming even stranger. Social divisions are massive.

newuser99999

5555555555 wrote: »

Funny how so many of 'Americas a kip' posts are from people who have never set foot in the US.

Been many times, lived in Canada. Disgusting country America is, no culture, so unfriendly, disgusting food.

5555555555

Blaze420 wrote: »

You don’t need to step in a dog **** to know it’s dog **** do you?

You should take a trip over there. Walk around. Talk to people.

Blaze420

5555555555 wrote: »

You should take a trip over there. Walk around. Talk to people.

I’ve been to NY on business, felt nothing for it or the people - its reputation is romanticised and unwarranted. Seeing the imbecile running it now I have no desire to go back, might be good for the overall country in the long run if they can shuffle Donald Dickhead off to a mental institution where he belongs.

Lyan

"Kip" is an odd way to describe the most prosperous nation in the world. What's your reasoning?

Blaze420

Lyan wrote: »

"Kip" is an odd way to describe the most prosperous nation in the world. What's your reasoning?

Prosperous....lol. A nation where black people die with cops knees on their throat for no reason, high schoolers get to worry more about being shot to death in class than what’s in their lunch box, a minor hospital stay can bankrupt you and the biggest ****ing retard on the planet is the president....sounds like an absolute utopia alright :rolleyes:

Odyssey 2005

Indestructable wrote: »

What a KIP of a country it is. That's all.

You think that's a kip...you should go to Dublin !;)

Atlantic Dawn

It's the most unequal oddball place on the face of the earth.

moonlighting_1

Guy who predicted collapse of Russia made a similar claim now for America 2020

Indestructable

Lyan wrote: »

"Kip" is an odd way to describe the most prosperous nation in the world. What's your reasoning?

Prosperity for the privileged. The social divide is terrifying and sad.

StefanFal

It's a country in complete turmoil. Especially if you are a negro. Seems hopeless on all fronts right now.

Lyan

@Blaze420

Of course it's not a perfect utopia. Such a thing is impossible. But you can't deny it's prosperity despite whatever flaws might tick you off. It will continue to lead the world economically and technologically for some time yet. And I believe those two areas are the most important in reducing suffering in the long term.

TuringBot47

Indestructable wrote: »

Prosperity for the privileged. The social divide is terrifying and sad.

Have you actually been there or lived there ?
Or are you just being spoon fed opinions from the media ?

Blacks do make up a larger proportion of crime and even if you look in Ireland whenever some skanger is being arrested they're
going to cry "Ah... you're breaking my arm etc...".
But don't worry, Fianna Fail opened the floodgates of Africa in the Celtic Tiger years and we'll soon catch up.

Lyan

Indestructable wrote: »

Prosperity for the privileged. The social divide is terrifying and sad.

I don't want to embark on an economic argument regarding the "prosperity for the privileged", but it's just untrue. It's an irrational opinion to be honest, one that has always come from resentment and lies from such resentment. The social divide is difficult with such a "melting pot" as the US is. But they have handled it well enough given the massive anti-segregation progress and crime reduction in the last few decades. Don't completely dismiss what the US is doing as wrong when you aren't looking at the bigger picture.

Necro

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JohnnyFlash

It's a great place to visit for a holiday, even though the price of booze over there is shocking these days. Wouldn't like to live there though. Strange auld country.

Quantum Erasure

moonlighting_1 wrote: »

Guy who predicted collapse of Russia made a similar claim now for America 2020

Nostradamus?

Rodney Bathgate

Been there at least 20 times in many different cities, east and west coast, plus 3 months J1. Probably spent a year in total there. Never had any issues in all that time. Love the place, would be happy to live there.

Indestructable

TuringBot47 wrote: »

Have you actually been there or lived there ?
Or are you just being spoon fed opinions from the media ?

No spoonfeeding required. Don't even want to turn this into a race debate, fact is that far too many people have literally nothing in America.

Tell us again how great it is from your holiday destination or the city you went to work in.

Tell me how

Currently living there.
Wouldn't call it a kip any more than any other country on the planet. Good and bad elements to it.
Has an awful lot going for it if you are on the right side of the line whether that is in terms of ethnicity, income, education status etc but very difficult if you are disenfranchised in any way with respect to these elements.

I agree with others who say that the current status has been exacerbated greatly by the current leader. The two party system is partly responsible for this as voters are very entrenched it seems and I think very few actually change their mind but an election can be determined based simply on who could be bothered more to vote.

Worst thing I could say about the country is that right now I couldn't say with confidence that he will lose in November. If he is returned in November it is infinitely worse than him having won in the first place as now people would select him 'knowing' just what he brings to the table. And if he continues as President, the next 4 years will be jawdropping in terms of just how low he will bring the respect for the office before he takes off.

Blaze420

Lyan wrote: »

@Blaze420

Of course it's not a perfect utopia. Such a thing is impossible. But you can't deny it's prosperity despite whatever flaws might tick you off. It will continue to lead the world economically and technologically for some time yet. And I believe those two areas are the most important in reducing suffering in the long term.

Economically? Nope - seems to deprive companies of freedom to operate where they wish because “merica”, like Trumptard recently whinging about drugs being manufactured here but he wants them back in the US cos “merica”.

Technologically - hell no. South Korea and China are light years ahead of US tech and what they can do. The US is nothing but a dream seen through rose tinted glasses denying the reality that the vision is nothing but a withered old corpse.

Cody montana

I’m boycotting it till trump is removed.

Dr. Bre

Far better place than uk China Russia etc..

jam_mac_jam

Doesn't hold much interest for me. I doubt it's a ****hole though. All that flag waving and consumerism doesn't interest me. Also couldn't cope with the immigration getting there.

There is enough for me to see in Europe or Asia for a holiday.

Wouldn't call anywhere a ****hole unless I had been there. They have amazing national parks and scenery so somehow I doubt half a continent is a ****hole.

Indestructable

Trump will shut down Twitter, disavow the WHO, lose 100k + plus to this pandemic, stifle legitimate voting in addition to all the other **** he did and will do.

Still, still he will most likely be re-elected or at least have millions upon millions vote for him. How is that right.

This is America.

Mr. Karate

Indestructable wrote: »

No spoonfeeding required. Don't even want to turn this into a race debate, fact is that far too many people have literally nothing in America.

The poor in America can still manage to have the latest fashions, cell phones and games consoles. They don't know what true poverty is.

If you can't make something of yourself in America [or any 1st World Country for that matter] than that's your fault.

Kermit.de.frog

StefanFal wrote: »

It's a country in complete turmoil. Especially if you are a negro. Seems hopeless on all fronts right now.

It's also the country that has achieved more for mankind than any other.

It's also vast geographically, beautiful and built up on a bigger scale than anywhere else.

People sometimes mention the lack of people with passports in the US but the reality is they don't need them. You can have a perfectly fulfilling life while never leaving the borders of the US.

What you see on the news is also a large distortion of the country, most of it is perfectly fine with great people.

YFlyer

Odyssey 2005 wrote: »

You think that's a kip...you should go to Dublin !;)

Or Tipp town.

Tasfasdf

Indestructable wrote: »

Trump will shut down Twitter, disavow the WHO, lose 100k + plus to this pandemic, stifle legitimate voting in addition to all the other **** he did and will do.

Still, still he will most likely be re-elected or at least have millions upon millions vote for him. How is that right.

This is America.

All I can think of is the meme "REEEEEEE" when i see posts like this.

completedit

They call it the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe in it

TuringBot47

Indestructable wrote: »

...fact is that far too many people have literally nothing in America.

So if you were to compare America to Africa, or maybe parts of India or parts of South America... do you think they have "nothing" ?
You really have to educate yourself, and not just from the media.

Indestructable wrote: »

Tell us again how great it is from your holiday destination or the city you went to work in.

Depends... middle class people in Ireland will work in middle class places in America. I lived in Virginia/DC for a while.
Like any other major city, there's good and bad parts.

Capitalism will always divide the losers from the winners.

Indestructable

Dr. Bre wrote: »

Far better place than uk China Russia etc..

Yes, agreed. But is it better than France, Germany, the Scandinavian nations, Japan, South Korea, and plenty of others?

The US is nothing to strive for.

Blaze420

Tasfasdf wrote: »

All I can think of is the meme "REEEEEEE" when i see posts like this.

So no response but a linguistic interpretation of a meme.....right.

Blaze420

completedit wrote: »

They call it the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe in it

Yeah or like the “American dream” where your friend chokes you until you pass out, but a cop does it with his knee instead.

GY_1980

Indestructable wrote: »

What a KIP of a country it is. That's all.

Completely disagree. It’s easily the greatest country I’ve ever been. I’ve visited many of their cities and States. Hugely diverse place.

What experiences are you basing your opinion on?

suicide_circus

i wouldn't live there unless i was very wealthy but it's far from a sh1t hole. A sh1t hole country couldn't have dominated the world for the last century.

Mr. Karate

Tasfasdf wrote: »

All I can think of is the meme "REEEEEEE" when i see posts like this.

Definitely. The majority of the deaths are in NY and Ca because the idiot Democrats like Cuomo, DeBlasio, Pelosi wanted to grand stand to "resist" Trump. The highest mortality rates are coming from Democrat states. Trump did everything he could for those states [Tells you that they're trying to get Cuomo to replace Biden since he went from praising Trump for his efforts in helping NY to towing party line and is now "orange Man Bad" again]

Blaze420

Mr. Karate wrote: »

Definitely. The majority of the deaths are in NY and Ca because the idiot Democrats like Cuomo, DeBlasio, Pelosi wanted to grand stand to "resist" Trump. The highest mortality rates are coming from Democrat states. Trump did everything he could for those states [Tells you that they're trying to get Cuomo to replace Biden since he went from praising Trump for his efforts in helping NY to towing party line and is now "orange Man Bad" again]

I love seeing people who live in Ireland refer to democrats,Cuomo, Biden, “orange man bad”. Do you talk with a yank accent as well???

Indestructable

Tasfasdf wrote: »

All I can think of is the meme "REEEEEEE" when i see posts like this.

Okay that's fair enough. I actually once supported Trump, you won't believe that, but I did. He came in with a fresh mantra and ideas I would have supported at one time. He railed against SJWs I supported that and actually still do to an extent.

But things have changed, in the last few months he has been the most inept and useless leader anyone could imagine. Gaff after gaff, statement after statement with utter nonsense behind it.

Mr. Karate

Blaze420 wrote: »

I love seeing people who live in Ireland refer to democrats,Cuomo, Biden, “orange man bad”. Do you talk with a yank accent as well???

I lived in NY so I am very familiar with the US [more than the talking heads on here knocking it]

What? I'm not allowed to mention Democrats by Name? Cuomo is the Governor of Ny and Wilhelm "Scream" DiBlasio is the Mayor of NYC, Plus Nancy is the Speaker of the House. These are all verifiable facts.

Tell me how

Mr. Karate wrote: »

Definitely. The majority of the deaths are in NY and Ca because the idiot Democrats like Cuomo, DeBlasio, Pelosi wanted to grand stand to "resist" Trump. The highest mortality rates are coming from Democrat states. Trump did everything he could for those states [Tells you that they're trying to get Cuomo to replace Biden since he went from praising Trump for his efforts in helping NY to towing party line and is now "orange Man Bad" again]

The states with the highest mortality also have some of the highest population density, most tourism and commercial travel in to them.

That is much more significant than who is the governor of the state. Or maybe you can explain what Bill Lee did versus what Cuomo did which was so much more effective.

Blaze420

Mr. Karate wrote: »

I lived in NY so I am very familiar with the US [more than the talking heads on here knocking it]

What? I'm not allowed to mention Democrats by Name? Cuomo is the Governor of Ny and Wilhelm "Scream" DiBlasio is the Mayor of NYC, Plus Nancy is the Speaker of the House. These are all verifiable facts.

I spent a bit of time in NY too but I’m Irish and have no desire to name drop democrats or whatever the **** else as it’s nothing to do with this country, same as I wouldn’t be dropping names like Bojo, Cummings etc if talking about the U.K like I’m some authority or invested in it.

Do you think people in the US talk about Ireland while dropping Leo, Mehole Martin etc in conversation? Like **** they do. It comes across as try hard bull****.

Mr. Karate

Tell me how wrote: »

The states with the highest mortality also have some of the highest population density, most tourism and commercial travel in to them.

That is much more significant than who is the governor of the state. Or maybe you can explain what Bill Lee did versus what Cuomo did which was so much more effective.

Cuomo is in charge of the state. He dragged his feet with implementing quarantines and lockdowns. Plus he put Covid patients in nursing homes [then again the Irish Govt did the same thing] He knew NY had a Ventilator shortage and he still wasted billions of taxdollars instead of stockpiling them. Then when Trump sent Ventilators he put them in a storage unit so he could cry about how he's not getting any help.

Nollog

Blaze420 wrote: »

I spent a bit of time in NY too but I’m Irish and have no desire to name drop democrats or whatever the **** else as it’s nothing to do with this country, same as I wouldn’t be dropping names like Bojo, Cummings etc if talking about the U.K like I’m some authority or invested in it.

Do you think people in the US talk about Ireland while dropping Leo, Mehole Martin etc in conversation? Like **** they do. It comes across as try hard bull****.

I've had conversations with people who do indeed name drop leo.

I also don't find it odd to discuss political leaders of a country when discussing a country.

banie01

5555555555 wrote: »

Funny how so many of 'Americas a kip' posts are from people who have never set foot in the US.

Checking passport for stamps now?