drug use

mr_fegelien · 23-05-2020 2:28pm #1

Why do so many people assume that every drug user is a homeless person in tracksuits? Talking to my family and a friend, when you mention weed, the first thing that pops into their mind is someone completely out of it on O'Connell Street, they don't even think of the millions that have smoked it in this country and are financially and mentally functioning.

There's no point in having rational discussions about drugs with some people who show astounding ignorance. I mean everyone is ignorant about some things but willfully talking **** like comparing weed to heroin when you don't have any experience with them makes me lose respect in your eyes.

Timberrrrrrrr · 23-05-2020 2:29pm

mr_fegelien wrote: »

Why do so many people assume that every drug user is a homeless person in tracksuits? Talking to my family and a friend, when you mention weed, the first thing that pops into their mind is someone completely out of it on O'Connell Street.

There's no point in having rational discussions about drugs with some people who show astounding ignorance. I mean everyone is ignorant about some things but willfully talking **** like comparing weed to heroin when you don't have any experience with them makes me lose respect in your eyes.

You?

Drugs?

Well that explains a lot.

fineso.mom · 23-05-2020 2:33pm

'Your' family and 'a' friend hardly counts as 'so many' people.

23-05-2020 2:40pm

We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, and a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers... and also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of Budweiser, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.

Alrigghtythen · 23-05-2020 2:40pm

You answered your own question before you asked it

There's no point in having rational discussions about drugs with some people who show astounding ignorance.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 23-05-2020 2:43pm

It's people who are anti-drugs, but who drink alcohol and swear blind that "it's not really a drug" that gets me.

frag420 · 23-05-2020 2:43pm

Just be thankful it’s only confined to those few towns with an O’Connel street...

ThewhiteJesus · 23-05-2020 2:43pm

Well there’s not much around in Dublin now, a friend told me

punisher5112 · 23-05-2020 2:44pm

Millions don't smoke it in Ireland.....
Bizarre comments to make....

There isn't even 5 million here...

Many types of junkie but the ones you see around the city are there to get their fix and methadone from the clinics.

Most of these travel on public transport to get from the housing they're provided with by us tax paying idiots.....

There are also many foreigners going about the city with serious mental issues and drink and drug abuse is big too.

They are standing out more then ever the last few weeks.

punisher5112 · 23-05-2020 2:47pm

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

It's people who are anti-drugs, but who drink alcohol and swear blind that "it's not really a drug" that gets me.

Different really though as one is legal the rest aren't.....

Yes it's a drug and the majority can handle it and enjoy a few at the weekend or every so often....

Of course there are those that can't handle it at all but what's really taken off is the dangerous cocktail of the mixing of both....

That's the danger.

corner of hells · 23-05-2020 2:53pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

Millions don't smoke it in Ireland.....
Bizarre comments to make....

There isn't even 5 million here...

Many types of junkie but the ones you see around the city are there to get their fix and methadone from the clinics.

Most of these travel on public transport to get from the housing they're provided with by us tax paying idiots.....

There are also many foreigners going about the city with serious mental issues and drink and drug abuse is big too.

They are standing out more then ever the last few weeks.

Feckin ' foreigners taking our drink and drugs.

LeYouth · 23-05-2020 2:54pm

Get the odd whiff of cannabis in the city centre - often close by 3rd world types. Welcome to Ireland!

ThewhiteJesus · 23-05-2020 2:56pm

corner of hells wrote: »

Feckin ' foreigners taking our drink and drugs.

They took our jobs

punisher5112 · 23-05-2020 2:56pm

LeYouth wrote: »

Get the odd whiff of cannabis in the city centre - often close by 3rd world types. Welcome to Ireland!

Anywhere along boardwalks or sitting areas I find....

corner of hells · 23-05-2020 2:58pm

ThewhiteJesus wrote: »

They took our jobs

And our boardwalk.

punisher5112 · 23-05-2020 2:58pm

corner of hells wrote: »

Feckin ' foreigners taking our drink and drugs.

Well there was one on George's street the other day abusing anyone that passed and then took it upon himself to relieve the grass from.the cracks in the ground and then twirling around and shouting, looking to the sky and throwing it at people.... The 2 deliveroo guys stuck around a lot longer then I would have but did have the sense eventually to move....

corner of hells · 23-05-2020 3:01pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

Well there was one on George's street the other day abusing anyone that passed and then took it upon himself to relieve the grass from.the cracks in the ground and then twirling around and shouting, looking to the sky and throwing it at people.... The 2 deliveroo guys stuck around a lot longer then I would have but did have the sense eventually to move....

And there you are , roaming from the boardwalk to Georges street passing judgement on the those poor souls.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 23-05-2020 3:03pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

Different really though as one is legal the rest aren't.....

Yes it's a drug and the majority can handle it and enjoy a few at the weekend or every so often....

Of course there are those that can't handle it at all but what's really taken off is the dangerous cocktail of the mixing of both....

That's the danger.

Apart from the first sentence, you could be talking about almost any drug.

weisses · 23-05-2020 3:04pm

People who are drinking alcohol are drug users ....

punisher5112 · 23-05-2020 3:07pm

weisses wrote: »

People who are drinking alcohol are drug users ....

Would you class them as junkies

punisher5112 · 23-05-2020 3:07pm

corner of hells wrote: »

And there you are , roaming from the boardwalk to Georges street passing judgement on the those poor souls.

Wasn't roaming unfortunately my work has me going by these often...

Blueshoe · 23-05-2020 3:09pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

Well there was one on George's street the other day abusing anyone that passed and then took it upon himself to relieve the grass from.the cracks in the ground and then twirling around and shouting, looking to the sky and throwing it at people.... The 2 deliveroo guys stuck around a lot longer then I would have but did have the sense eventually to move....

Canal. Job done

The Bishop Basher · 23-05-2020 3:09pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

Different really though as one is legal the rest aren't.....

Yes it's a drug and the majority can handle it and enjoy a few at the weekend or every so often....

Of course there are those that can't handle it at all but what's really taken off is the dangerous cocktail of the mixing of both....

That's the danger.

No. Alcohol is dangerous enough on it’s own. It doesn’t need any other substance to make complete ****e of your life and of those around you.

It’s also far more likely to do so than weed.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 23-05-2020 3:52pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

Would you class them as junkies

How are defining 'junkie'? I ask because every time someone uses the word the seem to mean during different.

If a drug user, then yes.
If a drug pusher, then no. That's more the bar/off-licence owner.

If you're referring specifically to the use of dangerous drugs, than it's open to debate, but a case could be made for yes.
If you're referring specifically to the use of illegal drugs, then obviously not.

weisses · 23-05-2020 4:59pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

Would you class them as junkies

Depends on the amount consumed and dependency on the alcohol

Hotblack Desiato · 23-05-2020 5:11pm

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

It's people who are anti-drugs, but who drink alcohol and swear blind that "it's not really a drug" that gets me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOkA_BdFqfM

punisher5112 · 23-05-2020 5:13pm

weisses wrote: »

Depends on the amount consumed and dependency on the alcohol

But then they would be called alcoholic!

punisher5112 · 23-05-2020 5:18pm

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

How are defining 'junkie'? I ask because every time someone uses the word the seem to mean during different.

If a drug user, then yes.
If a drug pusher, then no. That's more the bar/off-licence owner.

If you're referring specifically to the use of dangerous drugs, than it's open to debate, but a case could be made for yes.
If you're referring specifically to the use of illegal drugs, then obviously not.

Junkies or drug addicts tend to be those you see strung out after getting their fix of crack, benzo, opioid such as heroin and even prescription meds with these in them....
Coke is widely used and anyone that uses it really needs help, as do they all....

I've seen them injecting on the bus, train and on the streets, trousers down, into the penis, into their eye balls with the help of another and a torch.....

It's very very sad to see anyone turn out like them and how their lives are destroyed and family and friends and society as a whole too.

Lyan · 23-05-2020 5:25pm

Everyone I've known who smokes weed on a regular basis has been a complete waster with no direction in life.

corner of hells · 23-05-2020 5:32pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

Junkies or drug addicts tend to be those you see strung out after getting their fix of crack, benzo, opioid such as heroin and even prescription meds with these in them....
Coke is widely used and anyone that uses it really needs help, as do they all....

I've seen them injecting on the bus, train and on the streets, trousers down, into the penis, into their eye balls with the help of another and a torch.....

It's very very sad to see anyone turn out like them and how their lives are destroyed and family and friends and society as a whole too.

In all the years I've been working in drug services and homeless services , I've never heard of an addict injecting into his eyeball even with assistance, ever.

Injecting into the penis is extremely rare , it along with the groin, neck and armpits are high risk area.

I've worked in needle exchanges and would very familiar with IV drug use , including risks associated, different types of needles, barrels , paraphernalia along with recognising damage to veins and tissue associated with drug use.

I'd be on first name terms too with a lot of the individuals you call junkies in Dublin city centre.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 23-05-2020 5:37pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

Junkies or drug addicts tend to be those you see strung out after getting their fix of crack, benzo, opioid such as heroin and even prescription meds with these in them....
Coke is widely used and anyone that uses it really needs help, as do they all....

I've seen them injecting on the bus, train and on the streets, trousers down, into the penis, into their eye balls with the help of another and a torch.....

It's very very sad to see anyone turn out like them and how their lives are destroyed and family and friends and society as a whole too.

Not sure where you're getting your info on regarding the the paragraph...?

Anyway, if a junkie is someone who consumes a drug openly and then proceeds to display the effects in publuc, then yes - some drinkers are definitely junkies. It being legal or socially-acceptable makes no difference.

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