What Slave1 got next

ELM327

slave1 wrote: »

So got my first fast charge (CCS) yesterday in a ridiculously difficult short cable on an EasyGo charger.
Duration 39minutes, 26 kWh charge, max power was 45.2kW.
Was stopping for grub and it was FOC so no complaints

Yes, at a 50kW unit that's about the peak, 45-47kW depending. You'll never get the full 50 as the voltage is a bit low.

slave1

Voltage my side or charger?

markpb

slave1 wrote: »

So got my first fast charge (CCS) yesterday in a ridiculously difficult short cable on an EasyGo charger.
Duration 39minutes, 26 kWh charge, max power was 45.2kW.
Was stopping for grub and it was FOC so no complaints

Where is there a free CCS charge point?

charlieIRL

markpb wrote: »

Where is there a free CCS charge point?

EasyGo in Supermacs, Kinnegad.

slave1

Just discovered you can quickly swipe down on the screen where the Navigation alert box is and it will setup route to Home with just the swipe!

Gumbo

slave1 wrote: »

Just discovered you can quickly swipe down on the screen where the Navigation alert box is and it will setup route to Home with just the swipe!

So this is what I’ve been doing.

A few times I’ve done something on the screen and all of a sudden directions start appearing. I thought it was my calender appointment syncing or something.

Thanks.

unkel

Very handy to share google maps destination from your phone to your Tesla, it will start nav straight away in your car as soon as you share. Use it daily.

Gumbo

unkel wrote: »

Very handy to share google maps destination from your phone to your Tesla, it will start nav straight away in your car as soon as you share. Use it daily.

This was a great feature of the bmw connected app too.
Very handy although the Tesla system is much easier and more efficient and takes less than half the time!

unkel

So much so that it is the first car that I have owned that I actively use the nav system in. With all my other cars I couldn't be bothered as you either had to plug your phone in (like for Android auto) which is a bit 1998 or you had to do the search again in the nav system, which is worse again. I usually search for something on google maps on my PC. Then when I click on the google maps app on my phone, the search is right there (as it is synced via my google account), just click on share and then the tesla app and it's in the car's nav. Which in turn has high quality satellite images and live traffic update, with free internet and a free subscription to this excellent service for life. I'm not complaining

Gumbo

unkel wrote: »

So much so that it is the first car that I have owned that I actively use the nav system in. With all my other cars I couldn't be bothered as you either had to plug your phone in (like for Android auto) which is a bit 1998 or you had to do the search again in the nav system, which is worse again. I usually search for something on google maps on my PC. Then when I click on the google maps app on my phone, the search is right there (as it is synced via my google account), just click on share and then the tesla app and it's in the car's nav. Which in turn has high quality satellite images and live traffic update, with free internet and a free subscription to this excellent service for life. I'm not complaining

I hear ya

KCross

unkel wrote: »

I usually search for something on google maps on my PC. Then when I click on the google maps app on my phone, the search is right there (as it is synced via my google account), just click on share and then the tesla app and it's in the car's nav.

Shur even the lowly Leaf had that in 2010!

ELM327

KCross wrote: »

Shur even the lowly Leaf had that in 2010!

my 2014 leaf didnt have this!

slave1

So time flies, in spite of travel restrictions have just put 2,000kms on in 7 weeks.
Plus
No buyers regret, this is very important given the sum at stake
Interface, really like the stalk for Drive/Reverse/Brake selection, so much better than down where the gear knob used to be
Screen, Google Maps is just class with satellite views, great to look over the hedge on those houses you've been passing for years, I would deffo had regretted not holding out for free connectivity for life now I've used it
Smoothness, came with v expensive Good Years and they are so quiet, was on the new stretch of the M6 which was just resurfaced with smooth tarmac and the car was virtually silent at 120kms/hr
Sound, excels with electronic music in particular, have all my favourite Depeche Mode Remixes on flac format on the USB, bliss. Have found my sound tester on Spotify and that would be Metallica Master of Puppets, the drums are super
Looks, it's gorgeous (subjective)
Space, it's massive, the boot took two large golf cart bags, two trolleys and all the bits and pieces no problem, with still the frunk free!
Dual Chargers, as I've said previously this opens up the country as these are widespread and give a great boost for short stops, I just hook up when out for walks in the late evening, haven't charged at home to date as the 22's are doing me just fine
Performance, you want to pass out then you can, no problem, foot down and you are away!
AP1, flawless for me to date and very relaxing on long motorway spins
Other, text to speech, voice command for AC, free Spotify, ability to camp overnight, more refined and reliable App, Location memory on suspension, movement to a two EV household
Aftermarket toys, there are just so many, couldn't start


Minus
It's very low on entry/exit, deffo something to consider if you have a bad back
With zero Tesla superchargers you have to pony up €500 for the CCS upgrade to allow you to rapid charge, 50 chargers peak at 45 so not a massive difference to the 22s, Ionity and Tesla I have yet to use so looking forward to seeing those speeds

unkel

You and I are more similar than I thought. Must get those Depeche Mode remixes off you if we were ever to meet

My experience is pretty much the same. Happy with the US style gear stalk (having to press a button in the dark to select the gear in Ioniq was daft). Super practical, the boot with the seats down takes all the big stuff I throw in it - big bikes or mopeds, swallowed whole. Full size solar panels and all that without having to be careful - all of these would be really tight in almost all other hatchbacks that are substantially smaller.

I get the biggest smile on my face from the comedy accelerations I do many times a day, traction control can't handle the full performance at all but it's a gentle giant, so not stepping out of line much compared to other cars I have / had

You haven't charged at home yet, so all your miles were completely free? :eek:

slave1

unkel wrote: »

You haven't charged at home yet, so all your miles were completely free? :eek:

Myself and the missus go for a 10km walk every evening since lockdown so that's about 36-40kWh take on, we have four 22kW dual chargers along our various routes so there's always one free to date.
I mean we have to park there anyhow so why not hook up!

ELM327

slave1 wrote: »

Myself and the missus go for a 10km walk every evening since lockdown so that's about 36-40kWh take on, we have four 22kW dual chargers along our various routes so there's always one free to date.
I mean we have to park there anyhow so why not hook up!

That seems a better question to direct to her.

KCross

ELM327 wrote: »

my 2014 leaf didnt have this!

It did, they all do (except the XE models).

ELM327

KCross wrote: »

It did, they all do.

Let's rephrase.
In the 60k km or so I did in my leaf, not only did I not use it, I was not aware it was possible!

KCross

ELM327 wrote: »

Let's rephrase.
In the 60k km or so I did in my leaf, not only did I not use it, I was not aware it was possible!

Its in the menus. Not entirely obvious and not explained in the manual very well either but it is there alright.

Im sure Tesla's implementation of it is slicker. I tried it out in the Leaf and it worked but never used it again... was just easier to get the GPS coordinates and pump those in.

unkel

KCross wrote: »

I tried it out in the Leaf and it worked but never used it again... was just easier to get the GPS coordinates and pump those in.

That says a lot

I don't think I have ever manually typed in GPS coordinates into anything Probably quicker to get the paper map out and do some old skool navigation (I was good at that)

ELM327

unkel wrote: »

That says a lot

I don't think I have ever manually typed in GPS coordinates into anything Probably quicker to get the paper map out and do some old skool navigation (I was good at that)

I did in the leaf too

slave1

Frunk actuator and water collection around sunroof repaired today by Ranger at house, didn't get to see for myself as back to the office.
Also left a few tax disc holders I'd asked for.
All no hassle under Tesla warranty.

unkel

slave1 wrote: »

Linky, I went for the 4300K White Yellow option.

Got mine in the post today, thank fook the Chinese stuff is finally starting to arrive. Fitted them in a few minutes and very pleased with the result. My 12 year old noticed them immediately about an hour ago (had told her nothing) and it wasn't even half dark yet. Nice subtle mod and the €9 incl. shipping didn't break the bank

slave1

Yeah, I’ve been flooded with Aliexpress stuff last week or so, got boot cill covers and they look very well, must post pic when PC on next

slave1

And said boot thingys..black aluminum.
Takes a dull boot and turns it a little, they look way better in real life

Before


After

slave1

So, due to Pandemic backlog finally completed the total purchase.

Paid €1.6k VRT and claimed it all back, Revenue agreed so full refund in today's post.

I'm not going into the exact pricing but in summary...

Model S 85, 151 reg, 39k miles
Tesla warranty until Oct 22 or another 24k miles.
HV battery and MCU replaced in the last 6 months, motor replaced in 2018, 3 handles replaced since 2018.
Dual Chargers
Upgraded Sound
AP hardware and enabled
Brand new Good Years on back and Michelin Primacy on the front
Smart Air Suspension
Parking Sensors
Subzero Package
Lifetime free Supercharging
Lifetime free Premium Connectivity
19inch Alloys and body in near perfect condition

All-in for good bit less than the cost of a brand new Kia e-Soul which retails at €37.5k.
Happy days.

unkel

Nice one. Happy days indeed!

The ultimate family performance car in my book. I thought that moniker was to be reserved for the Model X. But having been up close with it last week, I no longer think that way. With the 7 seats up, there is very little luggage room in the trunk and the frunk is tiny (perhaps just a third in size of our RWD Model S frunks)

Very strange that your HV battery and motor were replaced though. Have you concrete proof of that?

jhegarty

So you managed €0 vrt ?

slave1

unkel wrote: »

Very strange that your HV battery and motor were replaced though. Have you concrete proof of that?

Not that strange, I came across plenty of examples of battery changes when on the hunt, have the Tesla invoice with battery replacement and also you can see the battery pack code if you take off the front right wheel (as I have done to clean).
Any issues with these cars and it's much simpler for Tesla just to swap out a refurb pack in 10minutes and send dodgy pack off for refurbishment to be used again.
Similar paperwork for motor.
This is the advantage of private purchase, you get your hands on whatever work was carried out during existing ownership, better history of car.
If you buy off Tesla you get nothing

slave1

jhegarty wrote: »

So you managed €0 vrt ?

Yep, did my homework, polite letter of appeal and just used the guidance from the VRT handbook on the Revenue website

Gumbo

jhegarty wrote: »

So you managed €0 vrt ?

And not the first person to get €0 VRT bill buying 2014/2015 MS.

Orebro

Delighted you're happy with the car.

If I'm learning one thing from this and the other Model S threads is that you really don't want to own one of these out of warranty!

jhegarty

Gumbo wrote: »

And not the first person to get €0 VRT bill buying 2014/2015 MS.

I expect they send unkel a cheque instead of charging.

unkel

Still strange though a battery and motor replacement on such a new car. There were plenty of problems at the start in 2012 / 2013, particularly with the motors, but most seemed to have been ironed out by about 2014

jhegarty wrote: »

I expect they send unkel a cheque instead of charging.

I paid €600 initially but I got it all refunded

unkel

Orebro wrote: »

Delighted you're happy with the car.

If I'm learning one thing from this and the other Model S threads is that you really don't want to own one of these out of warranty!

Battery and drive train are the really expensive bits, but they are all covered for 8 years. So if that worries you, get a 2015, or preferably a 2016 car (for another 4 years of warranty)

The rest is manageable. A UK owner got the repair cost back for the MCU1 replacement out of warranty as he brought Tesla to the small claims court. And there are indies that do the job for GBP500. Much of the rest of the common issues like the door handles can be done DIY

But indeed, I'm not glossing over any of this. A Nissan Leaf or a Hyundai Ioniq would be far more reliable.

ELM327

Orebro wrote: »

Delighted you're happy with the car.

If I'm learning one thing from this and the other Model S threads is that you really don't want to own one of these out of warranty!

Even the oldest RHD Tesla still has 2 years+ of warranty remaining. Not an issue.

Gumbo

Orebro wrote: »

Delighted you're happy with the car.

If I'm learning one thing from this and the other Model S threads is that you really don't want to own one of these out of warranty!

I have mine out of general warranty.
Battery and drivetrain warranty until 2022 though.

Fingers crossed not being jinxed

ELM327

Gumbo wrote: »

I have mine out of general warranty.
Battery and drivetrain warranty until 2022 though.

Fingers crossed not being jinxed

I am the same, out of general warranty, Battery/DU warranty till 2024. I had 2 years of CPO warranty but unfortunately I blew through the miles in a couple of months before covid

Orebro

I'm watching closely to see how ye get on before making the jump :-)

Black_Knight

Orebro wrote: »

I'm watching closely to see how ye get on before making the jump :-)

Fwiw, be ready to jump. Bargains don't hang around.

unkel

+1

Do all your prep first, make sure you can afford to buy it and have plans ready to sort out your finances. Be ready to immediately hit the "buy it now" button if you come across a super bargain. When you do, you have a couple of weeks time.

Kramer

ELM327 wrote: »

Even the oldest RHD Tesla still has 2 years+ of warranty remaining. Not an issue.

Until you've owned it two years & want to sell it privately.

Some job shifting an expensive, totally out of warranty, notoriously failure prone & expensive to repair, Tesla .

unkel

Kramer wrote: »

Until you've owned it two years & want to sell it privately.

Some job shifting an expensive, totally out of warranty, notoriously failure prone & expensive to repair, Tesla .

The earliest models in the USA are now completely out of warranty, and it doesn't look like the prices of them have collapsed.

Kramer

unkel wrote: »

The earliest models in the USA are now completely out of warranty, and it doesn't look like the prices of them have collapsed.

Yeah, but the USA has .

ELM327

Kramer wrote: »

Until you've owned it two years & want to sell it privately.

Some job shifting an expensive, totally out of warranty, notoriously failure prone & expensive to repair, Tesla .

When I sell mine it will have 2-3 years of drivetrain and battery warranty left.

unkel wrote: »

The earliest models in the USA are now completely out of warranty, and it doesn't look like the prices of them have collapsed.

Exactly, any Tesla from 2012-2014 still on the road now has likely had new battery and/or new drivetrain and a few niggles (door handles) fixed under warranty already

unkel wrote: »

+1

Do all your prep first, make sure you can afford to buy it and have plans ready to sort out your finances. Be ready to immediately hit the "buy it now" button if you come across a super bargain. When you do, you have a couple of weeks time.

For sure. You spend your time researching and committing to the decision, so that when the "good deal" comes up you can click "buy" straight away. The good deals (as we've seen) don't last longer than a day or two. The overpriced ones sit for weeks.

ELM327

Kramer wrote: »

Yeah, but the USA has .

I don't think Covid and misplaced social unrest has anything to do with tesla :P

slave1

So a wee update.
Had an essential trip to Scotland few days back with a fully packed car.
Left home at 100%, first Supercharge for me and it was at Castlebellingham North, arrived around 41% and charging was slowish, peaked at 78% and dropped straight away much lower so my stop was much longer than anticipated at I needed to get to 90% to make it to my next stop in Eurocentral Glasgow, at high SOC the charge dropped to below 23kW so aggressive tapering.
Arrived at Eurocentral at 18% and my peak was 113kW (dropping immediately) this time and held charge very well, was over 60kW when I left at 40% SOC.
Arrived in Dundee at 16% and again my peak was 110kW (dropping immediately) and charged very well.
Back to Dundee after returning from my destination and again high charge.
Back to Eurocentral again at low SOC so high supercharging.
So that was 5 Supercharges in one day, I could not have done the journey without these stops and covered 972kms in Day 1.

Day 2 was remainder of trip home and a Supercharge stop at Castlebellingham South, this time arrived at 11% SOC and the peak was 113kW.

Vast majority of journey was 120kms indicated/117kms real world. Average consumption for trip (1,315kms) was 189Wh/km

When the car decides the battery needs cooling the fans are like a feckin small jet, you can clearly hear the car from 60/70yards, it is LOUD.
Don't arrive at even a reasonable state of charge if you want high charge rates, the software is obviously designed to maximize the charge time for a lower SOC battery.

Supercharging is a total breeze, just hook up, no cards, no app, no queue, all chargers working and proper hubs, most impressive, Tesla have it bang on. I hope they never share their network with anyone else and dilute the benefit for Tesla drivers.

Castlebellingham North in the wee hours



Still digging my puddle lights (on ferry)



Dundee Superchargers



Eurocentral Superchargers nicely lined up in ever so gentle curve (and another two behind me out of picture)

slave1

Oh, and free supercharging makes it ever better

unkel

My experience is exactly the same although I haven't supercharged more than once in a day. My max at about 15% SOC is 101kW, must try at a much lower SOC but I doubt the speed will be much higher. I'm at nearly 139k km now, I guess you are a good bit lower?

Also did you not (yet) get the CCS done? I guess even if you did, free lifetime worldwide supercharging like we both have is hard not to make use of on a long trip

I drive the bejaysus out of my car, so indeed the small jet sound like fan comes on quite a lot in this warm weather when I park the car on my drive after a trip

slave1

unkel wrote: »

My experience is exactly the same although I haven't supercharged more than once in a day. My max at about 15% SOC is 101kW, must try at a much lower SOC but I doubt the speed will be much higher. I'm at nearly 139k km now, I guess you are a good bit lower?

Just shy of 68k kms

Also did you not (yet) get the CCS done? I guess even if you did, free lifetime worldwide supercharging like we both have is hard not to make use of on a long trip

Yeah, got the CCS but for my trip I needed the fastest chargers to minimise charging time and as it happens all the Superchargers were en route so be mad to charge elsewhere, plus (most importantly) they are proper hubs and you know in advance how many stalls are free


I drive the bejaysus out of my car, so indeed the small jet sound like fan comes on quite a lot in this warm weather when I park the car on my drive after a trip

I've never heard it before as I've never supercharged, it did also come on for the first time when I was driving but that was immediately after a supercharge.
You can feel the air by the vents near the front fog lights

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