Do you agree with mandatory vaccinations?

CinemaGuy45

I will kick this off I will not be taken it end of story and I will not be answering to ANYBODY my body my choice.

How many so called PRO CHOICE yes voters will be screaming at people to take their vaccine.

Bill Gates in behind funding seven of these things in development I would not trust that creepy ******* as far as I would throw him.

Funny his own children don't get the jabs.

I will not be responding to insults or name calling I will again state.

My body my choice.

I would be interested in reading how others stand on this.:)

Jim_Hodge

Plain and simple...yes I'd support mandatory vaccination against this virus.

I'll not give reasons, as you don't seem to want discussion and have your mind clearly made up. I'd prohibit international travel for non vaccinated people and perhaps limit their access to certain jobs.

CinemaGuy45

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Plain and simple...yes I'd support mandatory vaccination against this virus.

I'll not give reasons, as you don't seem to want discussion and have your mind clearly made up. I'd prohibit international travel for non vaccinated people and perhaps limit their access to certain jobs.

What is the point in discussing something to which I will have no choice in?

Risteard81

Anyone promoting mandatory vaccination is an abhorrent excuse for a human being.

Anyone who tries to vaccinate me against my will will be met with any degree of force necessary to prevent them.

Harry Palmr

Do you agree with mandatory vaccinations?

No

But if it were up to me you'd better prepare to spend an awfully long time in solitary confinement.

CinemaGuy45

Risteard81 wrote: »

Anyone promoting mandatory vaccination is an abhorrent excuse for a human being.

Anyone who tries to vaccinate me against my will will be met with any degree of force necessary to prevent them.

Totally agree anybody who tries to force a needle into me I can not say what I will do as I do not wish to be banned here.

But I will view this as an attack on my life and soul.

afatbollix

It shouldn't be mandatory.

But it makes fecking sense to go get one, I'd try anything to make sure I didn't get this virus.


Well except drinking bleach.

CinemaGuy45

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Totally agree anybody who tries to force a needle into me I can not say what I will do as I do not wish to be banned here.

But I will view this as an attack on my life and soul.

How do you feel about patients suffering from psychosis been involuntary patients?

Zaph

I think it's impossible to enforce mandatory vaccinations, but anyone who refuses to get one should be banned from public transport and their children banned from schools and creches indefinitely. Your body, your choice, fair enough. But my body chooses not to be exposed to something that has a higher chance of killing me than most people due to a medical condition.

CinemaGuy45

Deleted User wrote: »

How do you feel about patients suffering from psychosis been involuntary patients?

How do you feel about thalidomide babies?

WeeCuppaCha

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

How do you feel about thalidomide babies?

Huh?

godtabh

It shouldn’t be mandatory but if you don’t get it you shouldn’t be entitled to any state aid/social welfare or be general population.

Are those TB asylums still going?

timmy_mallet

Deleted User wrote: »

How do you feel about patients suffering from psychosis been involuntary patients?

Whataboutery

timmy_mallet

Zaph wrote: »

I think it's impossible to enforce mandatory vaccinations, but anyone who refuses to get one should be banned from public transport and their children banned from schools and creches indefinitely. Your body, your choice, fair enough. But my body chooses not to be exposed to something that has a higher chance of killing me than most people due to a medical condition.

Stay at home then?

Risteard81

godtabh wrote: »

It shouldn’t be mandatory but if you don’t get it you shouldn’t be entitled to any state aid/social welfare or be general population.

Are those TB asylums still going?

Utterly reprihensible nonsense.

timmy_mallet

Zaph wrote: »

I think it's impossible to enforce mandatory vaccinations, but anyone who refuses to get one should be banned from public transport and their children banned from schools and creches indefinitely. Your body, your choice, fair enough. But my body chooses not to be exposed to something that has a higher chance of killing me than most people due to a medical condition.

Might be worth to put a big gold star on those that dont take the vaccine, just so it's easy to spot them

poolboy

Fine not compulsory as long unvaccinated children aren't allowed attend school, unvaccinated adults are excluded from certain jobs and unvaccinated people have severe travel restrictions imposed on then. Apart from that do what you want.

timmy_mallet

Risteard81 wrote: »

Utterly reprihensible nonsense.

The irony in all this is that none of them have the first clue about vaccine research, testing, manufacturing etc etc etc

timmy_mallet

poolboy wrote: »

Fine not compulsory as long unvaccinated children aren't allowed attend school, unvaccinated adults are excluded from certain jobs and unvaccinated people have severe travel restrictions imposed on then. Apart from that do what you want.

Big good star, mate, slap it on their backs, just to make sure

GT89

Zaph wrote: »

I think it's impossible to enforce mandatory vaccinations, but anyone who refuses to get one should be banned from public transport and their children banned from schools and creches indefinitely. Your body, your choice, fair enough. But my body chooses not to be exposed to something that has a higher chance of killing me than most people due to a medical condition.

How can you ban non immunised people from public transport? Will you have to prove you're vaccinated in order to be issued with a Leap card? It's impossible to ban someone from public transport completely.

As for schools do you think children should be denied an education because of their parents decision. Also if vaccines are so effective why would should a vaccinated person have anything to fear from a non vaccinated person?

CinemaGuy45

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

How do you feel about thalidomide babies?

How do you feel about kids dying from measles because their parents are idiots?

Risteard81

poolboy wrote: »

Fine not compulsory as long unvaccinated children aren't allowed attend school, unvaccinated adults are excluded from certain jobs and unvaccinated people have severe travel restrictions imposed on then. Apart from that do what you want.

Why not just drown the unvaccinated?

JDMC2

I suppose it’s each to their own. I have an acquaintance who doesn’t believe in vaccines. We’re on a group chat together. I’ve asked her twice if she will get herself and her kids vaccinated when we get one for Covid-19......I’m still awaiting a response....not sure I’ll ever know

storker

Risteard81 wrote: »

Anyone promoting mandatory vaccination is an abhorrent excuse for a human being.

Anyone who tries to vaccinate me against my will will be met with any degree of force necessary to prevent them.

Can you make a video of it when it happens? Thanks.

timmy_mallet

DubInMeath wrote: »

How do you feel about kids dying from measles because their parents are idiots?

Whataboutery.

Hiw do you feel about know side effects, including death, for kids of certain vaccines?

timmy_mallet

JDMC2 wrote: »

I suppose it’s each to their own. I have an acquaintance who doesn’t believe in vaccines. We’re on a group chat together. I’ve asked her twice if she will get herself and her kids vaccinated when we get one for Covid-19......I’m still awaiting a response....not sure I’ll ever know

Why do you care?

CinemaGuy45

The man behind the biggest funding for this stuff openly admits to wanting a reduction in world population.

How stupid are people?


I will not be taking this and anybody who disagrees is welcome to lock themselves in their own home.

This is the issue I draw the line at this is life or death.

storker

timmy_mallet wrote: »

Might be worth to put a big gold star on those that dont take the vaccine, just so it's easy to spot them

Good thinking. Just make it a five-pointed star so it can't cause confusion with a group of people who historically were marked with stars because they were suffering real p[ersecution through no fault of their own.

endacl

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

What is the point in discussing something to which I will have no choice in?

What’s the point in starting a thread you refuse to discuss?

On a discussion board?

robinph

GT89 wrote: »

. Also if vaccines are so effective why would should a vaccinated person have anything to fear from a non vaccinated person?

It's not about protecting the vaccinated kids, it's about protecting those who cannot be vaccinated. Someone who for no legitimate reason doesn't get vaccinated puts those who cannot be at risk.

endacl

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

How do you feel about thalidomide babies?

Same as I feel about zebras.

Irrelevant to the discussion you apparently won’t have.

storker

robinph wrote: »

It's not about protecting the vaccinated kids, it's about protecting those who cannot be vaccinated. Someone who for no legitimate reason doesn't get vaccinated puts those who cannot be at risk.

Isn't it unbelievable that this still has to be explained to some people?

CinemaGuy45

endacl wrote: »

What’s the point in starting a thread you refuse to discuss?

On a discussion board?

I said I would not be responding to name calling or insults I did not say I would not discuss it.

Also I will not be taking it end of story.

I have not problem discussing the issue.

GT89

robinph wrote: »

It's not about protecting the vaccinated kids, it's about protecting those who cannot be vaccinated. Someone who for no legitimate reason doesn't get vaccinated puts those who cannot be at risk.

Maybe then they should come up with vaccines that are safe for all to get.

kippy

There are certain vaccinations that should be mandatory - planet wide - once they have passed a rigorous testing and verification process (as the vast majority of the vaccines that currently exist have)
If you've not had these vaccines you should not be allowed travel, have kids or work in any job that requires you to regularly come into contact with immuneo-compromised people.

robinph

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

The man behind the biggest funding for this stuff openly admits to wanting a reduction in world population.

How stupid are people?


I will not be taking this and anybody who disagrees is welcome to lock themselves in their own home.

This is the issue I draw the line at this is life or death.

Why should you be entitled to make use of the services of the state, health care, education, public transport, employment, entertainment... etc... If for no logical reason you don't participate in a simple and safe vaccination program which serves to protect your health and the health of those around you?

If you don't get vaccinated through choice then what gives you the right to share the rest of the resources of the community. You become a threat to the community by not being vaccinated.

ForestFire

storker wrote: »

Isn't it unbelievable that this still has to be explained to some people?

I always find this video a very good visual explanation on vaccines.

https://youtu.be/RfdZTZQvuCo

Also its only 1.5mins, so not a deep long winded video. Straight to the point in an effective way.

Zaph

timmy_mallet wrote: »

Stay at home then?

Why should I be the one to stay at home? If someone refuses to partake in something that is of benefit to the general population then they are the ones who should stay home. They can't make a decision like that and not expect consequences for themselves.

timmy_mallet

timmy_mallet wrote: »

Whataboutery.

Hiw do you feel about know side effects, including death, for kids of certain vaccines?

Whataboutery - the phrase that's used when you don't have an argument to the fact that. Idiots are causing kids to die from something that was nearly eradicated.

What is it with fu*king idiots and the need or want to see people die unnecessarily, your posts in the main covid threads reek of it. Are your lives that fu*king pathetic that ye just want to take everyone down with ye?

robinph

GT89 wrote: »

Maybe then they should come up with vaccines that are safe for all to get.

Some people will be allergic to some vaccines, or maybe they don't even have an immune system that can make use of the vaccine.

Figure those things out and there will be a Pulitzer Noble... Sorry Nobel prize waiting for you.

endacl

Wish they’d come up with a vaccine for stupid.

CinemaGuy45

robinph wrote: »

Why should you be entitled to make use of the services of the state, health care, education, public transport, employment, entertainment... etc... If for no logical reason you don't participate in a simple and safe vaccination program which serves to protect your health and the health of those around you?

If you don't get vaccinated through choice then what gives you the right to share the rest of the resources of the community. You become a threat to the community by not being vaccinated.

Anybody thinking like this becomes a threat to independent free individuals.

Nobody has a right to enforce their will on other people this is not going to end well.

CinemaGuy45

endacl wrote: »

Wish they’d come up with a vaccine for stupid.

Oh they have and there are plenty of stupid people who can just not wait to take it.

However I am all for freedom of choice just keep it away from me and those who don't want it.

dark crystal

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Anybody thinking like this becomes a threat to independent free individuals.

Nobody has a right to enforce their will on other people this is not going to end well.

In that case, we should be able to drive drunk. It's an affront to my liberty to ban me from doing so!

robinph

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Anybody thinking like this becomes a threat to independent free individuals.

Nobody has a right to enforce their will on other people this is not going to end well.

But society does have the right to insist on certain behaviour of the people who wish to be part of that society. If you don't want to be vaccinated for something that is proven safe and effective then you are free to leave and find your own island to live on.

storker

ForestFire wrote: »

I always find this video a very good visual explanation on vaccines.

https://youtu.be/RfdZTZQvuCo

Also its only 1.5mins, so not a deep long winded video. Straight to the point in an effective way.

A tad over-simplistic but yes a very effective visual. I loved the top comment:

"My grandfather was vaccinated with several vaccines. Because of this he's started wrinkling and getting grey hairs. Because of vaccines he's becoming an old man instead of dying at the ripe old age of 5. Vaccines causing aging, please be aware of the dangers."

893bet

endacl wrote: »

Wish they’d come up with a vaccine for stupid.

AntiVaxxers are more stupid than the average person so would sadly refuse it.



Selfish **** is my experience of them. Always ramming their beliefs down everyones throats also. I mean **** off. No one wants to listen to your ****e.

The "Do your own research and dont be sheepple brigade". Their research is usually biased websites and facebook.

robinph

timmy_mallet wrote: »

Whataboutery.

Hiw do you feel about know side effects, including death, for kids of certain vaccines?

Well those would be the people who wouldn't be vaccinated, and your choosing not to vaccinate yourself is what puts them at risk.

4068ac1elhodqr

To be clear, 'mandatory' isn't enforced, that's 'compulsary' (subtle difference).

You could well refuse a mandatory vaccine (on various grounds e.g. health concerns, religion, pro-choice and so on) however... you'd be refused access to so many services, products and travel access.
So you see it could be framed and marketeded as 'optional manditory' (i.e. highly recommended).
- but you'd have such a hard time doing anything, that it may as well be considered the very same as held down, 'compulsary & enforced'.
It would be presented as a 'push', a very, very big push - if it ever comes to that stage (likely not?).

But, the big issue currently is around immunity, the WHO says this does not exist in any meaningful way.
If no one can be assumed immune to this strain of COVID, and any future subtle strains of it, ...it's jab time.

CinemaGuy45

WHO plays down risk to Indian children from tainted polio vaccine

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-india-health-polio/who-plays-down-risk-to-indian-children-from-tainted-polio-vaccine-idUSKCN1MB3H1

robinph

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-india-health-polio/who-plays-down-risk-to-indian-children-from-tainted-polio-vaccine-idUSKCN1MB3H1

Seems that it's good that people around them have been vaccinated with the correct strain then, so they are still protected despite receiving the wrong version of the vaccine.

Try reading the article next time to see if it actually says what you think it does.