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DoneDeal headmelters

  • 05-04-2020 3:57am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭


    Recently had a car for sale on DoneDeal, I wouldn’t sell a lot of cars but every time i do I cringe to think of all the DoneDeal headmelts that I’m going to have to deal with, had the car up for €1450.

    I’m paraphrasing but these are generally the gist of what lads were sending me;

    “€600 cash today, can you meet me in clane?”

    “Swap for a 02 Audi A4 fully kitted? And cash my way”

    “800€ the best I can do because of high tax and insurance”

    “I just want the engine I can do 700 CASH TONIGHT”

    Add in a few similar phone calls from a 085 number and a few from a 089 number that I refused to answer my head was wreaked from lads melting me bracket, car eventually sold.

    I know some lads on here buy and sell cars but how do you guys cope with the endless muppets on DoneDeal?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,368 ✭✭✭User1998


    Do you have Donedeal messenger turned on or off? Turning it off helps because people have no problem sending stupid messages through Donedeal but if it’s turned off they might not bother texting your phone. No point ignoring phone calls they could be genuine buyers but I see your frustration


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,479 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    The country is practically on lockdown so the dimwits of dumbdeal have even more spare time to sent pointless messages now that before Covid-19 was a thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    I Was VB wrote: »
    “€600 cash today, can you meet me in clane?”

    “800€ the best I can do because of high tax and insurance”

    “I just want the engine I can do 700 CASH TONIGHT”

    I think the most frustrating thing about these is that they have no intent to buy regardless.

    If you text your man back, sure no problem I'm stuck for cash so I can meet you in Clane and do €600, you can bet the car on it that they wont turn up anyway.

    It's a strange sport that way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    I Was VB wrote: »

    Add in a few similar phone calls from a 085 number and a few from a 089 number that I refused to answer my head was wreaked from lads melting me bracket, car eventually sold.
    :confused:

    why? whats up with 085 & 089 numbers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Umaro


    Why wouldn't you answer the phone? That'd be the channel with the most genuine buyers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,523 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    The lower the price car the worse the muppets get, some must have a daily search for sub €1500 cars and text every single one as some kind of entertainment. The funniest is when they say something like "€800 cash" as if it's the financing for a Learjet they have secured to pay for it.

    In this downtime for some seller entertainment I'd love to stick a fictional car up and accept every single offer by text to see what the outcome is or call them back and tell them you can meet them in 20 minutes for the handover and see them crawl back under their rock.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    fryup wrote: »
    :confused:

    why? whats up with 085 & 089 numbers

    They're poor people prefixes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭Heres Johnny


    fryup wrote: »
    :confused:

    why? whats up with 085 & 089 numbers

    When our service line in work rang and it was an 089 number it was nearly always a complete waste of time.
    085 not so much anymore its the Eir network which I'm on myself although I have 086 number.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 252 ✭✭M7roadrunner


    I’m wondering if it works some of the time tho, why else would they do it?
    Sold my car just before the sh*t hit the fan, it was on DoneDeal for a week and the first person who viewed it bought it, but it was up for €3,800 and got numerous DoneDeal messages and texts offering from €1,200 to €2500.
    I ignored or blocked the messages but it got me thinking about their success rate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,544 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    When our service line in work rang and it was an 089 number it was nearly always a complete waste of time.
    085 not so much anymore its the Eir network which I'm on myself although I have 086 number.

    Back in the day, that definitely was true.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭Maxx355


    Adverts is the same. Users with 100s of comments and offers to purchase, zero feedback and no purchases.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,553 ✭✭✭KevRossi


    I like the way they offer 'CASH!'.

    Like I'd take a fcuking cheque or a bag of magic beans or similar.

    I had a Renault Modus in for €100 about 2 years ago, phone nearly melted. Engine was perfect, tyres about 15,000 Km on them, failed an NCT on bushings etc. €500 to repair, car had huge mileage, about 380,000 Km, so was worth no more than €400 with NCT.

    People saying if I gave them €250, they'd take it off my hands, offering me money for the other car in the picture (which wasn't mine), texts looking for so much info, when I had written over 300 words in the description.

    Had one guy phone me several times, said if I gave him €100, he'd take it off me, told him to get lost, eventually got €90 from takebackmycar.ie, told him that, he then offered me €50 for a car that I'd already sold for €90.

    Thank fcuk I'd spent the €10 on a throw away SIM card.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,219 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Mobile number prefix snobbishness, that even beats "D-plates" craziness :D

    I often use adverts and sometimes donedeal, and just ignore the eejits.

    Illegitimi non carborundum


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,544 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    biko wrote: »
    Mobile number prefix snobbishness, that even beats "D-plates" craziness :D

    I often use adverts and sometimes donedeal, and just ignore the eejits.

    Illegitimi non carborundum

    Bang of 089 or 083 off ya.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭Heres Johnny


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Back in the day, that definitely was true.

    Related to the done deal waste ofvtimers:

    We have a call out rate in work of 180 euro which covers travel and first hour on site, 2 guys in a van on every job. 90 euro per additional hour. It's an emergency repair service for security/access. So that's 45 euro an hour per man we charge, they get paid between 15 and 22 euro an hour in general. So we would be paying 60 to 88 an hour in wages for a 180 call out.
    We work with other businesses only, not with individuals.
    From these 089 numbers it was generally people renting premises on short-term lets and had run into problems but flat out refused to pay the amount quoted. I asked a few times how much they think it should be and was met with replies like 30/40 euro, also got asked to do it for 20 cash once.
    For 2 fully insured, trained technicians wages for 2 hours, including the cost of the van, the insurance, the tools, the phone, the IT system we have, the billing, the chasing of the bill to be paid in most cases, our own premises overheads, bosses salary... It goes on and on.

    Just like the done dealers, absolute waste of time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭I Was VB


    I know it’s irrational and silly but when I see a 089 number call me I have visions of a certain ethnicity going into tesco and buying a sim card for the burner phone, having had trouble before with said prospective buyer I just don’t need the hassle in my life.

    I felt the same way about 085 numbers about 12 years ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭pcardin


    They're poor people prefixes.

    Im on 085 and I'm with Vodafone for past 5 years and wouldn't call myself poor. :confused:

    But I know, Irish are crazy for perceptions and superstitions which is tragic but also very funny. A Nation easy to predict and play around. After all country changed their number plate system only not to have number 13 on it :pac:

    On topic, I buy and sell occasionally and agree with most, the cheaper the car the bigger muppets it will attract. You have to be ready for it and there is no cure. There are also similar muppets between sellers with the famous lines like "was perfect condition pre accident", no NCT but will fly through, and the one that has been in around in last 5 years - perfect for export! :( So, a piece of sh1t which is not even good for scrapyards is somehow perfect for export?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭pcardin


    I Was VB wrote: »
    I know it’s irrational and silly but when I see a 089 number call me I have visions of a certain ethnicity going into tesco and buying a sim card for the burner phone, having had trouble before with said prospective buyer I just don’t need the hassle in my life.

    I felt the same way about 085 numbers about 12 years ago.

    Isn't 089 a Virgin Mobile?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,633 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    pcardin wrote: »
    Isn't 089 a Virgin Mobile?

    Tesco


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭pcardin


    Tesco

    my kids phones are from virgin mobile and are 089. Damn muppets! I will never answer their calls from now. :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Best price merchants are the funniest, not hard to guess who they are either C.arvan U.tilising N.omdic T.aveller.S.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭pcardin


    Best price merchants are the funniest, not hard to guess who they are either C.arvan U.tilising N.omdic T.aveller.S.

    Best price is almost as opening line for these. And then half whatever number you give them immediately.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    Lots of people get cheap sims when they are teenagers and students. When they port later in life they keep the number.

    Also many are burner numbers...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    pcardin wrote: »
    Best price is almost as opening line for these. And then half whatever number you give them immediately.

    Half? Not my experience. Usually it's a third, have often had to bite my lip instead of replying with the first thought in my head.
    Also the level of illiteracy in Ireland is shocking based on the volume of idiots who can't read an ad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,107 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    They're poor people prefixes.

    I’m 089, work phone on three was Vodafone. My bill can be 900 a month. I don’t think that’s a poor persons bill.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭Dwarf.Shortage


    ted1 wrote: »
    I’m 089, work phone on three was Vodafone. My bill can be 900 a month. I don’t think that’s a poor persons bill.

    Stop ringing the porn lines so, how are you running that up when there's unlimited everything plans for 60-70 a month?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    pcardin wrote: »
    Isn't 089 a Virgin Mobile?

    yes, but i doubt many "virgins" use it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    ted1 wrote: »
    I’m 089, work phone on three was Vodafone. My bill can be 900 a month. I don’t think that’s a poor persons bill.

    My comment was tongue in cheek.

    I'm 085, I've had the number definitely 15 years I'd say, I was a teenager and I got my first Meteor phone and had the number ever since. Been with Vodafone around 10 years or so now.

    I don't necessarily agree with it but I think they are perceived as lower rent prefixes by a lot of people. Though I do think 089 took the stigma away from 085. Personally you do see a lot of creatures, mouth breathers and knuckle draggers with 089 numbers because all the slightly obscure MVNO's and flash in the pan networks take that prefix so there is a high percentage of tight people and people using them as disposable numbers for dodgy deals automotive and otherwise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,633 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    My comment was tongue in cheek.

    I'm 085, I've had the number definitely 15 years I'd say, I was a teenager and I got my first Meteor phone and had the number ever since. Been with Vodafone around 10 years or so now.

    I don't necessarily agree with it but I think they are perceived as lower rent prefixes by a lot of people. Though I do think 089 took the stigma away from 085. Personally you do see a lot of creatures, mouth breathers and knuckle draggers with 089 numbers because all the slightly obscure MVNO's and flash in the pan networks take that prefix so there is a high percentage of tight people and people using them as disposable numbers for dodgy deals automotive and otherwise.

    Meet e her, remember the girls saying that.... Jaysus that was back in 2001


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭pcardin


    Stop ringing the porn lines so

    could you tell more? asking for a friend...:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,634 ✭✭✭Aint Eazy Being Cheezy


    pcardin wrote: »
    Best price is almost as opening line for these. And then half whatever number you give them immediately.

    I just say “make me an offer” why would you bid against yourself?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭pcardin


    I just say “make me an offer” why would you bid against yourself?

    thats an invite to receive 10% of whatever you have it listed for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    ted1 wrote: »
    I’m 089, work phone on three was Vodafone. My bill can be 900 a month. I don’t think that’s a poor persons bill.

    That's no person's bill.

    Hello?

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    how about 083 ? is that a brain-doner donor prefix as well?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    fryup wrote: »
    how about 083 ? is that a brain-doner prefix as well?

    Do you mean 'donor'?
    Answered your own question.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,920 ✭✭✭corks finest


    Maxx355 wrote: »
    Adverts is the same. Users with 100s of comments and offers to purchase, zero feedback and no purchases.

    Found adverts slightly better,maybe i was lucky, either as a seller or buyer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,086 ✭✭✭✭Duke O Smiley


    I Was VB wrote: »
    I know it’s irrational and silly but when I see a 089 number call me I have visions of a certain ethnicity going into tesco and buying a sim card for the burner phone, having had trouble before with said prospective buyer I just don’t need the hassle in my life.

    I felt the same way about 085 numbers about 12 years ago.

    Thats it basically. Surprised more people don't know this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭I Was VB


    My half baked stereotypical personal opinions on mobile phone prefixes.

    083; IT whiz kid working out of barrow street, bmw 4 series on pcp, renting a 2 bed apartment overlooking Spencer Dock for the bargain on €215per month.

    085; 1st mobile number for the under 30s run of the mill average joe or Jane, working as a sales assistant or call centre, drives a 07 Golf that was paid for by the credit union, saving for a mortgage.

    086; bought a gaff in 2007 at the height of the boom, talks about negative equity when property gets mentioned, bought a 2018insignia on pcp and the car hasn’t seen a service since it was bought.

    087; mortgage paid, goes to the same kip in Spain every year for holidays, they know the Barmans 1st name, 2012 Mercedes E220 Manual, can’t understand why the son had to move back in to save for a mortgage and has to move their 07 Golf from the driveway on Saturday mornings as he’s going to play golf.

    088; long gone but; brown envelopes in the glove box of a blue W124, Charlie is a great man, massive combover, lives in Castleknock.

    089....... if I said what I wanted I’d get a ban.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,494 ✭✭✭SCOOP 64


    Found adverts slightly better,maybe i was lucky, either as a seller or buyer


    Annoys me is " what's best price" on adverts ,just put a offer in that's how adverts works, the worst i can say is NO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    pcardin wrote: »
    Isn't 089 a Virgin Mobile?

    virgin/tesco/lyca. When selling anything I never answer 089 numbers , most of the time the cheapskates even try call you on WhatsApp audio. It really does make the odds in saving me time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,086 ✭✭✭✭Duke O Smiley


    To be honest, there is a worse class of headmelter than the "best price, boss" and "CASH NOW" crowds, and that is the forum-reading enthusiast who hasn't two pennies to rub together.

    I remember I was selling a lovely little 94 Fiat Tipo a few years ago, 1 owner example with small miles and NCT that I picked up cheap from an old fella local to me. I had it on Donedeal with nice pictures, a nicely written ad etc and get a call from some middle-aged fella who proudly goes on to say he has a Brava and a Seicento or something like that....so he "knows the marque"

    A few things stand out in my mind from that phone call:

    -he wasn't happy that the (main dealer) service history was from a garage that had closed (Sweeney & Forte on the Clontarf Road) because he wouldn't be able to verify it with them.

    -he wasn't happy that the tyres weren't a premium brand, and wondered what else the owner might have "skimped" on.

    -wasn't happy that the bonnet was resprayed (rookie mistake, I shouldn't have told him this) because it took away from the originality of the car....a 94 Tipo up for €500

    By the end of the call he said he'd go and ask herself's permission to buy another car, and he'd get back to me with an offer if she said yes. I promptly blocked the number.

    I've dealt with loads of similar types over the years and I can't stand them. Absolute muppets.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭I Was VB


    To be honest, there is a worse class of headmelter than the "best price, boss" and "CASH NOW" crowds, and that is the forum-reading enthusiast who hasn't two pennies to rub together.

    I remember I was selling a lovely little 94 Fiat Tipo a few years ago, 1 owner example with small miles and NCT that I picked up cheap from an old fella local to me. I had it on Donedeal with nice pictures, a nicely written ad etc and get a call from some middle-aged fella who proudly goes on to say he has a Brava and a Seicento or something like that....so he "knows the marque"

    A few things stand out in my mind from that phone call:

    -he wasn't happy that the (main dealer) service history was from a garage that had closed (Sweeney & Forte on the Clontarf Road) because he wouldn't be able to verify it with them.

    -he wasn't happy that the tyres weren't a premium brand, and wondered what else the owner might have "skimped" on.

    -wasn't happy that the bonnet was resprayed (rookie mistake, I shouldn't have told him this) because it took away from the originality of the car....a 94 Tipo up for €500

    By the end of the call he said he'd go and ask herself's permission to buy another car, and he'd get back to me with an offer if she said yes. I promptly blocked the number.

    I've dealt with loads of similar types over the years and I can't stand them. Absolute muppets.


    I would have reminded him he’s enquiring about a 26 year old car for €500, and it is what it is. I would of used an unparliamentary term or two too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    To be honest, there is a worse class of headmelter than the "best price, boss" and "CASH NOW" crowds, and that is the forum-reading enthusiast who hasn't two pennies to rub together.

    I remember I was selling a lovely little 94 Fiat Tipo a few years ago, 1 owner example with small miles and NCT that I picked up cheap from an old fella local to me. I had it on Donedeal with nice pictures, a nicely written ad etc and get a call from some middle-aged fella who proudly goes on to say he has a Brava and a Seicento or something like that....so he "knows the marque"

    A few things stand out in my mind from that phone call:

    -he wasn't happy that the (main dealer) service history was from a garage that had closed (Sweeney & Forte on the Clontarf Road) because he wouldn't be able to verify it with them.

    -he wasn't happy that the tyres weren't a premium brand, and wondered what else the owner might have "skimped" on.

    -wasn't happy that the bonnet was resprayed (rookie mistake, I shouldn't have told him this) because it took away from the originality of the car....a 94 Tipo up for €500

    By the end of the call he said he'd go and ask herself's permission to buy another car, and he'd get back to me with an offer if she said yes. I promptly blocked the number.

    I've dealt with loads of similar types over the years and I can't stand them. Absolute muppets.

    I've noticed with you that if someone out there dare's to question what value you place on a cheap car you are trying to sell on to make a fast buck off of, you like to proclaim they haven't two pennies to rub together.

    Maybe they are just able dealers and used to Del Boy characters.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,242 ✭✭✭duffman13


    Had a car up a few weeks ago, put it up for 900, 05 Avensus, decent spec, full year tax and just NCTd with 15 months on it. Just wanted it sold quickly but my god it was torture, first person who came to view bought it for 800 but the car was up a week.

    First call, 3 mins after I put the ad up!
    "I'll meet ya tonight to buy it, what's the best price?"
    Listen come and see it and make me an offer
    "Ah I'll give you 500, it's all I have on me and the highest I'd go"
    You havent seen the car though, listen mate, I'm not going to sell it for 500 and you've not seen the car.
    "Your loss, you wont get more than 500 for that thing"
    Grand cheers mate, good luck

    Next day your man rings me again and says he will stick it up to 550 and the fact I havent sold means hes probably ripping himself off bidding that! ****ing painful!!! Told him I wouldnt take an offer seriously unless he viewed the car, told me I was a time waster and obviously not seriously selling! Peoples idiocy will never surprise me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭I Was VB


    duffman13 wrote: »
    Had a car up a few weeks ago, put it up for 900, 05 Avensus, decent spec, full year tax and just NCTd with 15 months on it. Just wanted it sold quickly but my god it was torture, first person who came to view bought it for 800 but the car was up a week.

    First call, 3 mins after I put the ad up!
    "I'll meet ya tonight to buy it, what's the best price?"
    Listen come and see it and make me an offer
    "Ah I'll give you 500, it's all I have on me and the highest I'd go"
    You havent seen the car though, listen mate, I'm not going to sell it for 500 and you've not seen the car.
    "Your loss, you wont get more than 500 for that thing"
    Grand cheers mate, good luck

    Next day your man rings me again and says he will stick it up to 550 and the fact I havent sold means hes probably ripping himself off bidding that! ****ing painful!!! Told him I wouldnt take an offer seriously unless he viewed the car, told me I was a time waster and obviously not seriously selling! Peoples idiocy will never surprise me.

    I just don’t understand what some lads get out if doing that, it’s a complete waste of time energy and effort doing that to sellers, maybe they get the odd bargain who knows but I wouldn’t imagine they do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,684 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    ted1 wrote: »
    I’m 089, work phone on three was Vodafone. My bill can be 900 a month. I don’t think that’s a poor persons bill.

    Cool story bro


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    It's DoneDeal, nobody is advertising stuff for sale that is going up in value in all fairness.

    If you don't want to have people ringing to haggle over the price bring your unwanted item to a dealer who specializes in it and see how much you are offered.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52 ✭✭jimjom


    I've noticed with you that if someone out there dare's to question what value you place on a cheap car you are trying to sell on to make a fast buck off of, you like to proclaim they haven't two pennies to rub together.

    Maybe they are just able dealers and used to Del Boy characters.

    Exactly!

    Duke's incessant postings causes so much heart ache for a seller and I know from experience. As soon as he's posted a car that I'm selling the idiot calls and texts start.
    I don't know whether or not he thinks he's doing a public service but in fact he causes so much bother with the nonsense commentary.
    He strikes me as someone who has absolutely nothing else to do....just like the DD headmelters.


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    I used to sell the odd golf club on donedeal but it was a torture. People offering peanuts and others haggling over a fiver. Now I just sell any clubs I have to golfbidder and happily take the hit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,086 ✭✭✭✭Duke O Smiley


    I've noticed with you that if someone out there dare's to question what value you place on a cheap car you are trying to sell on to make a fast buck off of, you like to proclaim they haven't two pennies to rub together.

    Maybe they are just able dealers and used to Del Boy characters.

    Nah, penniless muppets is definitely right. Theres a worrying number of them out there too. Some of them even post on here..


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