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MikroTik SXT-LTE6 kit vs TP-Link MR600

  • 28-03-2020 11:27am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24


    A neighbour is living in an area with poor broadband coverage - currently on satellite broadband with 40 Gb monthly cap.
    I borrowed a TP-Link MR600 and there is very poor connection speeds with Three mobile (slightly better on GoMo). Will the SXT give a much better signal. I don't want to purchase one only to find that it is no better than a 3g router. Has anyone had any experience with the MikroTik?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Bring the borrowed unit outside the house. Similar speed? Then changing device will have no impact.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    The SXT one is quite poor.

    If you have to order one in, get the LHG variant (approx 2ft dish) and make sure, that you get the LTE one and not the 4G one. The LTE one works better in Ireland.

    Either way what ED_E said ... but do not buy the SXT LTE unit. It's rubbish.

    /M


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 Fuser


    Thanks, its a good price on that site. I'll give that a go. I have to wait a while though as my neighbour lives more that 2Km away :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭johnytwentyten


    Fuser wrote: »
    Thanks, its a good price on that site. I'll give that a go. I have to wait a while though as my neighbour lives more that 2Km away :rolleyes:

    Hi just wondering if you bought this dish and how you got on with it?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 740 ✭✭✭Dero


    Marlow wrote: »
    The SXT one is quite poor.

    If you have to order one in, get the LHG variant (approx 2ft dish) and make sure, that you get the LTE one and not the 4G one. The LTE one works better in Ireland.

    Either way what ED_E said ... but do not buy the SXT LTE unit. It's rubbish.

    /M

    As a matter of interest, is the SXT one rubbish in general, or just rubbish for fringe reception areas?

    I presume in configuration terms it's just RouterOS, so bridging should provide a public IP on the Ethernet (assuming the network/APN provides a public address)?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 Fuser


    I ordered the "RouterBOARD RBLHGR&R11e-LTE6, LHG LTE6 kit" from the above link. I got a 3.ie SIM. The unit worked straight away, I didn't have to enter apn details. I was getting 10 MB/s straight away, with the unit in the house facing out the window. I am having an issue with the mobile network disconnecting and I have to reboot it periodically. It usually disconnects when there is little broadband use in the house. I have opened a ticket with irishwireless and am waiting to see if there is a simple solution.
    My brother in law picked up one too. The latest firmware give you a signal strength meter, so you can see the best way to point it when setting up. Funnily enough, the strongest signal gave him a speed of 2MB/s, (about -75 Db) whereas a slightly weaker signal of a different mast (-83Db) gave downloads of 20MB/s. He hasn't fixed his antenna yet as he is ordering a 3.ie SIM too. I can't say yet if he is getting the network drop issues/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    Dero wrote: »
    As a matter of interest, is the SXT one rubbish in general, or just rubbish for fringe reception areas?

    The SXT LTE one is just rubbish full stop. And that's based on my own testing. (and I do this kind of stuff for a living) All I'd use it for is a doorstop.

    /M


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    Fuser wrote: »
    Funnily enough, the strongest signal gave him a speed of 2MB/s, (about -75 Db) whereas a slightly weaker signal of a different mast (-83Db) gave downloads of 20MB/s.

    That could be different cells and the one with the better signal is just loaded already.

    The handy bit of it being directional so you can aim it into a cell, that has less users, hence more bandwidth available.

    /M


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭shaveAbullock


    Fuser wrote: »
    Thanks, its a good price on that site. I'll give that a go. I have to wait a while though as my neighbour lives more that 2Km away :rolleyes:

    Even if the limit for exercise was extended to 100km you still could not visit them under current restrictions.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 Fuser


    I had the opportunity to mount the antenna outdoors (while maintaining social distancing) and downloaded the mikrotik mobile app. It gives the signal strength of about -93db. I unchecked the box for 4g, as the network kept disconnecting and the router had to be restarted. On 3g, the connection stays up - no disconnects at all. The download speeds are between 12-14MB/s.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭johnytwentyten


    Fuser wrote: »
    I had the opportunity to mount the antenna outdoors (while maintaining social distancing) and downloaded the mikrotik mobile app. It gives the signal strength of about -93db. I unchecked the box for 4g, as the network kept disconnecting and the router had to be restarted. On 3g, the connection stays up - no disconnects at all. The download speeds are between 12-14MB/s.

    What speeds were you getting before? And I was wondering are the speeds consistent throughout the day?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 Fuser


    Previous to this broadband was via satellite. I borrowed a "3" Huawei router and a TP-Link MR600 and tried both with a "3" SIM. I was getting speeds of up to 3 Mb/s. My neighbour says that the speed on the Mikrotik is fairly consistent, enough that they can now watch netflix.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭johnytwentyten


    Bought that dish and tried with a 3 SIM, only getting about 3 down and 3 up at best, this was at eight in the evening when the speed seems to slow anyway, but tried the SIM in my phone at the same location as the dish and was getting 14 up and 1 down?!
    Anyone know why this is, or any tweaks I can make to the settings on the dish?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 Fuser


    Did you download the app for the dish. It will give you a graph for signal strength so you can fine tune where you are pointing it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭johnytwentyten


    Fuser wrote: »
    Did you download the app for the dish. It will give you a graph for signal strength so you can fine tune where you are pointing it.

    I don't understand how the app connects to the dish if the dish has no WiFi? Is the app just the same as logging in with a PC?
    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 Fuser


    You can plug the ethernet cable into the wan port of a router and connect your phone to the same router, is you have a spare router around.
    If not, jut plug the ethernet cable into a laptop/pc and browse to 192.168.88.1, and you can see the signal strengths on the web interface of the router.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭johnytwentyten


    Fuser wrote: »
    You can plug the ethernet cable into the wan port of a router and connect your phone to the same router, is you have a spare router around.
    If not, jut plug the ethernet cable into a laptop/pc and browse to 192.168.88.1, and you can see the signal strengths on the web interface of the router.

    Got set up last night, tried a Gomo SIM, even with full bars the data was non existent, tried a 3 SIM and lot better, 16 up and 4 down, having the app to pinpoint signal was a major help, thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 barrysmyth81


    Hi lads just trying to set up an mikrotik lhg LTE6 kit I'm using a 3 mobile sim card can see the unit via Web browser and app but can't seem to access the Internet what settings are needed to be setup on the router TIA?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 Fuser


    Once you plug in your SIM, it should work. Do you have a PIN on your SIM? You should be able to put in your PIN on the web interface somewhere, or you could pop you SIM into a phone and disable the PIN.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 barrysmyth81


    No just checked on my hauawei router settings it's off at the minute


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 Fuser


    Can you click on lte and see if there is a connection established?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 barrysmyth81


    Access technology says evolved 3g lte
    Registration status is registered


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 Fuser


    It should be working - can you ping 8.8.8.8


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 barrysmyth81


    No just timing out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 Fuser


    Did you try uncheck the box for 4g?
    I did a factory reset when I had a situation like yours, can be done from web interface, or hold power button while plugging unit in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭johnytwentyten


    Fuser wrote: »
    Did you try uncheck the box for 4g?
    I did a factory reset when I had a situation like yours, can be done from web interface, or hold power button while plugging unit in.
    Also had to uncheck 4g to get a signal for internet, worked well on 3g


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 barrysmyth81


    Yes on the lte I've selected lte and 3g


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭johnytwentyten


    Yes on the lte I've selected lte and 3g

    Have you selected bands 3 and 20? Don't think I had to do anything else, there were times I wasn't getting internet but once 4g was unchecked and I was getting a few bars it seemed to work


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 Fuser


    Are you plugging the LTE6 straight into the LAN port of a laptop or the WAN port of a router?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 barrysmyth81


    Is the 4g option in lte I've not seen it anywhere


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 barrysmyth81


    Plugged straight in to laptop


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 barrysmyth81


    And there's no need to enter apn details anywhere or set Netmask or dhcp range etc?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭johnytwentyten


    And there's no need to enter apn details anywhere or set Netmask or dhcp range etc?

    I used a 3 SIM and didn't change the apn settings, still worked, you can enter 3internet for the apn though and see,

    Are you using winbox to set it up?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 barrysmyth81


    Finally got the microtik working 😁 but only thing is the speed can be up to 40 down and roughly the same up and then drop to about 5 download and 14 up have linked the app for the dish what should I look in the graphs to stabilise speeds?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 Fuser


    Just sweep the dish around and look for the strongest signal. You should be able to find any mobile masts near you on the comreg site and then you have a rough idea where to point the antenna


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭johnytwentyten


    I've looked at the info in the mikrotik app to see which mast I'm hitting, but the number of the cell info doesn't match up with any info on the comreg site viewer, anyone know where I can work out which mast I'm using,?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭johnytwentyten


    Can someone with a bit of know how tell me why I'm not getting a steady reading when I look at the internet on the app? It doesn't matter if I'm getting full bars or not, the reading constantly jumps, almost like it's following a pattern, is there something I can change to make it more steady?

    The bars also jump in the same way no matter how I position the dish, from full bars to none,

    Also, originally I was getting speeds of 15-20 mb/s, now I'm lucky to get past 8-9 mb/s

    http://imgur.com/a/hUsKLQw


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Marlow wrote: »

    For the few that got this ,
    how are ye getting on with it after having it installed for a bit now?

    I'm 3km from mast and i can see it from where the mikrotik would be installed so i'm thinking of going this route.
    i currently have a VF huawei b528, the speed can be ok most of the day, except peak, so im wondering could congestion be my problem rather than signal.

    Anyhoo, just seeing how ye are getting on with it,
    thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭johnytwentyten


    For the few that got this ,
    how are ye getting on with it after having it installed for a bit now?

    I'm 3km from mast and i can see it from where the mikrotik would be installed so i'm thinking of going this route.
    i currently have a VF huawei b528, the speed can be ok most of the day, except peak, so im wondering could congestion be my problem rather than signal.

    Anyhoo, just seeing how ye are getting on with it,
    thanks.

    Been very hit and miss for me, was getting speeds up to 25 mb at the beginning, dropped to 3mb after a while, gone up a little since, the readings seem to spike a lot, I've seen other people reporting this issue, they were also working on the mast I'm aimed at so could have had something to do with it, the dish is discussed a lot In this thread

    https://confusedbird.com/thread-16.html


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Been very hit and miss for me, was getting speeds up to 25 mb at the beginning, dropped to 3mb after a while, gone up a little since, the readings seem to spike a lot, I've seen other people reporting this issue, they were also working on the mast I'm aimed at so could have had something to do with it, the dish is discussed a lot In this thread

    https://confusedbird.com/thread-16.html

    Haven’t come across this site before. Thanks for that, more reading to do.
    I see the admin in that thread left a review of the MikroTik on amazon which made me question the thing in the first place.

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 141 ✭✭DeconSheridan


    In our network there are two routers one TP-LinkMR6400 the other is a Huawei B525 both 3/4G LTE. I find that the Huawei is far better at holding the 4G signal and reaches further for wifi and has more and better features that the TP-Link don't have. I see Three signal and speed quality ranges from 50% to 90% from 0.1 Mbps up to 7.5Mbps each day up down.


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