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What do you do about Club Membership fees if courses are closed

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,381 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    etxp wrote: »
    Maybe the people that don't want to are concerned about what could happen in the next few weeks with regard to their incomes. Few big companies in Galway are making major cuts this week where as last week they were full steam ahead.

    It’s alright though because golfers probably won’t be affected :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭willabur


    There are alot of companies running on fumes.
    Markets have collapsed and many are eating into their cash reserve to keep things going as long as they can. Many are planning periods of hibernation which will involved lay offs and then redundancies. This thing is going to get a whole lot worse before its going to get better speaking strictly from an economic pov

    that is going to be very bad news for golf clubs all over the place


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 294 ✭✭xgronkjabv6pcl


    Seve OB wrote: »
    It’s alright though because golfers probably won’t be affected :D

    Well that depends of course if it's a factory worked by the proletariat or if it also fills the coffers of the bourgeois.

    Qu'ils mangent de la brioche


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 553 ✭✭✭morrga


    Seve OB wrote: »
    forget about me for a minute
    the point is, you haven't a clue what circumstance other golfers are finding themselves in.
    you made a general statement that most golfers haven't been to badly impacted and you have absolutely no backup to that assumption.

    I am basing it in the government subsidising 70% of salaries for those earning 38k and below meaning most of that pay bracket are not far off 100% salaries with some form of company top up. Not everyone because that’s impossible but a significant chunk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,381 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    morrga wrote: »
    I am basing it in the government subsidising 70% of salaries for those earning 38k and below meaning most of that pay bracket are not far off 100% salaries with some form of company top up. Not everyone because that’s impossible but a significant chunk.

    So now you are assuming most golfers earn 38k or less


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,613 ✭✭✭BigChap1759


    gypsy79 wrote: »
    Yes and my company usually charge 350 per hour for such advice from me!! :p:p

    Many private sector people will resist annuities now and for the foreseeable future due to low interest rates

    Annuities in general are just a terrible deal for everyone bar the pension companies


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭gypsy79


    Annuities in general are just a terrible deal for everyone bar the pension companies

    In the current climate you are correct as a good scottish man if i know who I am talking to

    In the past, insurance companies have been screwed on them too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭Deporhostia


    Annuities in general are just a terrible deal for everyone bar the pension companies
    Could you quickly explain why you think so?

    Myself and the wife were being suggested this last year, she wanted to go for it whereas I felt like any spare cash would be best served paying off my mortgage earlier.

    Thanks for any help


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭JimmyVik


    I was going to cancel mine. But I got a couple of rounds on it the the last few days, so i wont cancel now.
    A guy working there lives down the road from me and goes up every day to do maintenance, keep an eye on the place.
    He called in the other day asking if I wanted a round with him. Looks like it will be a regular "date" as he is eager to keep playing too, so happy to pay mine.
    Would not be happy though if i wasnt playing. Not exactly cheap to keep going indefinitely with nothing for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,232 ✭✭✭Glebee


    JimmyVik wrote: »
    I was going to cancel mine. But I got a couple of rounds on it the the last few days, so i wont cancel now.
    A guy working there lives down the road from me and goes up every day to do maintenance, keep an eye on the place.
    He called in the other day asking if I wanted a round with him. Looks like it will be a regular "date" as he is eager to keep playing too, so happy to pay mine.
    Would not be happy though if i wasnt playing. Not exactly cheap to keep going indefinitely with nothing for it.


    I dont think id be too happy if I was a member there and not allowed play and you were getting out. I suppose its probally happening in other places though..:(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 436 ✭✭Sultan_of_Ping


    Glebee wrote: »
    I dont think id be too happy if I was a member their and not allowed play and you were getting out. I suppose its probally happening in otehr places though..:(

    Yep - cycled past our place over the weekend and saw a couple of lads out knocking a ball around - not sure what they are playing for because there's no flags and no holes cut.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭JimmyVik


    Glebee wrote: »
    I dont think id be too happy if I was a member their and not allowed play and you were getting out. I suppose its probally happening in otehr places though..:(


    I give him a hand with a few things at other times. I guess he wanted to return the favour and get in some practice himself, so win/win.


    He has a little remote control car with a camera on it and a flag at the top of it. Drives it out to each hole as we play it. Great little gadget. Hes down there doing the grass all day every day anyway so its in good shape.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭Golfgraffix


    JimmyVik wrote: »
    I was going to cancel mine. But I got a couple of rounds on it the the last few days, so i wont cancel now.
    A guy working there lives down the road from me and goes up every day to do maintenance, keep an eye on the place.
    He called in the other day asking if I wanted a round with him. Looks like it will be a regular "date" as he is eager to keep playing too, so happy to pay mine.
    Would not be happy though if i wasnt playing. Not exactly cheap to keep going indefinitely with nothing for it.

    Surprised to hear this, would you consider golf “essential travel”? If people stick to the guidelines, golf will be back open but if they don’t it will take even longer. I would have thought playing golf now is pretty myopic.

    In my golf club staying off the course is considered “a condition of continued membership”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,668 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    There is always going to be some people who feel that the rules dont apply to them. We have one or two sneaking onto the course in our place too I'm told. Hiding down the back of the course to hit a few balls. And you know which members they are without even having to be told


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 436 ✭✭Sultan_of_Ping


    Rikand wrote: »
    There is always going to be some people who feel that the rules dont apply to them. We have one or two sneaking onto the course in our place too I'm told. Hiding down the back of the course to hit a few balls. And you know which members they are without even having to be told

    +1 on this.

    The pair I saw were no surprise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,381 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    JimmyVik wrote: »
    I was going to cancel mine. But I got a couple of rounds on it the the last few days, so i wont cancel now.
    A guy working there lives down the road from me and goes up every day to do maintenance, keep an eye on the place.
    He called in the other day asking if I wanted a round with him. Looks like it will be a regular "date" as he is eager to keep playing too, so happy to pay mine.
    Would not be happy though if i wasnt playing. Not exactly cheap to keep going indefinitely with nothing for it.

    Mod delete


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭JimmyVik


    Surprised to hear this, would you consider golf “essential travel”? If people stick to the guidelines, golf will be back open but if they don’t it will take even longer. I would have thought playing golf now is pretty myopic.

    In my golf club staying off the course is considered “a condition of continued membership”


    In my case its within 2km of my house, so no problem there.
    If it was further I wouldnt go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,381 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    JimmyVik wrote: »
    In my case its within 2km of my house, so no problem there.
    If it was further I wouldnt go.

    Of course it’s a problem. The course is closed, but you feel that doesn’t apply to you
    If it was my club and I found out any member had been playing while the club has been told to close the course, I would F you from a height. I hope your fellow club members find out what you have been up to and that soon you will be made feel about as welcome as a fart in a spacesuit around your club.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭JimmyVik


    Seve OB wrote: »
    Of course it’s a problem. The course is closed, but you feel that doesn’t apply to you
    If it was my club and I found out any member had been playing while the club has been told to close the course, I would F you from a height. I hope your fellow club members find out what you have been up to and that soon you will be made feel about as welcome as a fart in a spacesuit around your club.


    Its not closed to me though.
    The guy working there brings me in. I help him out with a few things and we have a round. I have always gave him a hand with stuff when he needed a body at short notice and he threw a few quid my way. Now he asks me to play a round with him for the company.

    We arent doing anything wrong. Hes cleared it with his boss. Everything is fine. I dont see why people should have a problem with that, but i guess we are in Ireland. The Irish crabs story comes to mind.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 7,028 Mod ✭✭✭✭charlieIRL


    The courses are closed for a reason, by ignoring the reasons is how this virus is being spread. Until everyone gets that into their heads we are never going to be rid of it.
    Do you know you are more that likely not insured to be on the course?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 294 ✭✭xgronkjabv6pcl


    charlieIRL wrote: »
    The courses are closed for a reason, by ignoring the reasons is how this virus is being spread. Until everyone gets that into their heads we are never going to be rid of it.
    Do you know you are more that likely not insured to be on the course?

    I suspect he's winding people up to be honest.

    There are few courses worth their salt that are hiring people in cash in hand on an ad-hoc basis throughout the year as described let alone courses condoning it during an issue like this.

    I'd be more inclined to think it's a bad joke in worst taste than something to be inflamed by.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭JimmyVik


    Ok, I only really came on to post that i wouldnt be paying my subs if i wasnt able to play, so i will take my leave now.
    For anyone who begrudges me a few rounds, you all do your thing and i'll do mine and lets leave it at that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,381 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    JimmyVik wrote: »
    Ok, I only really came on to post that i wouldnt be paying my subs if i wasnt able to play, so i will take my leave now.
    For anyone who begrudges me a few rounds, you all do your thing and i'll do mine and lets leave it at that.

    It looks more like to me that you came on to boast that you were still playing while the rest of us are obeying the law.

    You keep telling yourself that it’s ok for you.

    Sure maybe you have a mate who works in Tesco who will bring you in the back door to do your shopping when the store is closed to everyone else. And sure while yiz are there, he might give you a free feed. But sure he works there and invited you in, so that makes it ok for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,784 ✭✭✭redzerdrog


    Anyone skirting the rules regarding closed golf courses is a selfish idiot


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭Golfgraffix


    JimmyVik wrote: »
    Ok, I only really came on to post that i wouldnt be paying my subs if i wasnt able to play, so i will take my leave now.
    For anyone who begrudges me a few rounds, you all do your thing and i'll do mine and lets leave it at that.

    Not when your thing affects when I and all other like minded golfers get back to playing and playing safely. If you were in my club you would be asked to leave with no refund and not welcome back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭Golfgraffix


    JimmyVik wrote: »
    Its not closed to me though.
    The guy working there brings me in. I help him out with a few things and we have a round. I have always gave him a hand with stuff when he needed a body at short notice and he threw a few quid my way. Now he asks me to play a round with him for the company.

    We arent doing anything wrong. Hes cleared it with his boss. Everything is fine. I dont see why people should have a problem with that, but i guess we are in Ireland. The Irish crabs story comes to mind.

    Lets test that theory. Post the name of the club and lets see if there are any of your fellow members on here who agree with you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,507 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    JimmyVik wrote: »
    Its not closed to me though
    JimmyVik wrote: »
    but i guess we are in Ireland.

    Indeed we are.

    Jimmy as long as you have your hazards on while you play it should be fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 279 ✭✭kennethrhcp


    JimmyVik wrote: »
    We arent doing anything wrong. Hes cleared it with his boss. Everything is fine.

    this is the part I like the most :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,507 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    this is the part I like the most :)

    Unless his boss is Leo Varadkar, I'm not even sure of the relevance of the point!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,780 ✭✭✭downthemiddle


    I suspect he's winding people up to be honest.

    There are few courses worth their salt that are hiring people in cash in hand on an ad-hoc basis throughout the year as described let alone courses condoning it during an issue like this.

    I'd be more inclined to think it's a bad joke in worst taste than something to be inflamed by.

    Clearly a poor attempt at trolling.
    However, there is a post from Twitter purporting to show golfers playing a prominent Belfast club two days ago.


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