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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,029 ✭✭✭um7y1h83ge06nx


    Talking about mini kegs I got 3 short dated kegs of Hope Gentleman Jack IPA for €20 each from O'Brien's.

    Only the wife and I will be drinking them with no dispenser so will probably go through one over Friday and Saturday night.

    Grand price at €20 but the supposedly RRP of €40 is expensive to me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,278 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    Talking about mini kegs I got 3 short dated kegs of Hope Gentleman Jack IPA for €20 each from O'Brien's.

    Only the wife and I will be drinking them with no dispenser so will probably go through one over Friday and Saturday night.

    Grand price at €20 but the supposedly RRP of €40 is expensive to me.

    €20 is a great price for 5 litres of a good IPA!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    Talking about mini kegs I got 3 short dated kegs of Hope Gentleman Jack IPA for €20 each from O'Brien's.

    Only the wife and I will be drinking them with no dispenser so will probably go through one over Friday and Saturday night.

    Grand price at €20 but the supposedly RRP of €40 is expensive to me.

    Which O'Briens? Or do you have them all gone :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Buying bottles from Bru directly is more expensive than the supermarket. Why?


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 5,894 Mod ✭✭✭✭irish_goat


    Buying bottles from Bru directly is more expensive than the supermarket. Why?

    They're likely charging the same retail price as an independent off licence, so as not to upset them. Supermarkets buy in bulk so can usually offer better prices.

    It's the same for even the likes of BrewDog, you'll get Punk cheaper in Tesco.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    irish_goat wrote: »
    They're likely charging the same retail price as an independent off licence, so as not to upset them. Supermarkets buy in bulk so can usually offer better prices.

    It's the same for even the likes of BrewDog, you'll get Punk cheaper in Tesco.

    I know, but the price per bottle is 2.50 in the supermarket and more expensive per bottle for a slab direct from them...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,709 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    Buying bottles from Bru directly is more expensive than the supermarket. Why?
    Most are the same in my experience. You are giving all the money to the brewery though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Macy0161 wrote: »
    Most are the same in my experience. You are giving all the money to the brewery though.

    I do like supporting local business but you'd expect equivalent prices at least when you are buying in bulk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,664 ✭✭✭Blackjack


    Talking about mini kegs I got 3 short dated kegs of Hope Gentleman Jack IPA for €20 each from O'Brien's.

    Only the wife and I will be drinking them with no dispenser so will probably go through one over Friday and Saturday night.

    Grand price at €20 but the supposedly RRP of €40 is expensive to me.

    where was this??
    Thats a great deal!.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭Mickiemcfist


    I do like supporting local business but you'd expect equivalent prices at least when you are buying in bulk.

    How much bulk do you think the supermarket are buying in?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,029 ✭✭✭um7y1h83ge06nx


    Which O'Briens? Or do you have them all gone :D

    All gone unfortunately, it was an online offer, found out about it on one of the booze bargain threads. Short-dated but I'm sure they will be fine.

    Maybe the stores might have some as well but that would be hit and miss of course.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    How much bulk do you think the supermarket are buying in?

    So really the only reason to buy direct is to help the business out. That's fine but will put a lot of people off buying direct, you'd expect them to at least match the supermarket prices on bulk orders. They are not selling to the supermarket at a loss.

    Now I have experience of other local non brewery businesses just completely taking the mickey... For instance adding a 100% premium to products. The Bru prices are at least fair enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭Mickiemcfist


    So really the only reason to buy direct is to help the business out. That's fine but will put a lot of people off buying direct, you'd expect them to at least match the supermarket prices on bulk orders. They are not selling to the supermarket at a loss.

    Now I have experience of other local non brewery businesses just completely taking the mickey... For instance adding a 100% premium to products. The Bru prices are at least fair enough.

    Its not taking the Mickey, in a small operation selling volume is where the profit is. Picking & packing cases for one/two case deliveries take time & they mightnt have the resources for many online orders. So it makes sense to have the price high enough that A: it'll be worth it & B: the prices aren't appealing enough & drive up demand so that they wouldn't be able to manage the supply/logistics.

    Separately, most producers promote a certain RRP & large chains always push to be able to sell below this, they sign on for thousands of cases on the proviso that they'll be able to sell cheaper than everyone else. So the brand has to sell at RRP to be able to stand over the RRP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Its not taking the Mickey, in a small operation selling volume is where the profit is. Picking & packing cases for one/two case deliveries take time & they mightnt have the resources for many online orders. So it makes sense to have the price high enough that A: it'll be worth it & B: the prices aren't appealing enough & drive up demand so that they wouldn't be able to manage the supply/logistics.

    Separately, most producers promote a certain RRP & large chains always push to be able to sell below this, they sign on for thousands of cases on the proviso that they'll be able to sell cheaper than everyone else. So the brand has to sell at RRP to be able to stand over the RRP.

    What Bru are doing is fine. Small shop in town was selling a product - that is 150 direct from the producer online - for 300 in their shop. That seems like a massive profit. It wasn't beer though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭Pen Rua


    Not strictly craft brewers, but The Bierhaus are doing a livestream on Sunday evening with the head brewer from Black's (Kinsale)

    https://www.facebook.com/bierhauscork/posts/5500783959964206

    Don't think it's meant to be in the vein of the Craic Beer Zoom calls, more of shooting the breeze vibe, which will probably include beer talk given the host & guest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,694 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    The new Sabro SMaSH IPA from White Hag is mighty good!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 443 ✭✭Starlord_01


    Picked up plenty of beers I haven't tried for the weekend:

    - Rascals - Spacehopper
    - Rascals - The Breakfast Of Champions
    - Rascals - Big Hop Red
    - Larkins - Pale Ale
    - Whiplash - Hot Pursuit
    - Galway Bay - Buried At Sea
    - Dead Centre - Marooned

    Big fans of Rascals stuff lately so expecting good things. Anyone any thoughts?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52 ✭✭Knightofcydonia


    Picked up plenty of beers I haven't tried for the weekend:

    - Rascals - Spacehopper
    - Rascals - The Breakfast Of Champions
    - Rascals - Big Hop Red
    - Larkins - Pale Ale
    - Whiplash - Hot Pursuit
    - Galway Bay - Buried At Sea
    - Dead Centre - Marooned

    Big fans of Rascals stuff lately so expecting good things. Anyone any thoughts?

    I'm a fan of the Rascals stuff myself, really enjoyed the new breakfast stout. I only picked up two at the time but I'll be picking up more over the weekend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,709 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    Big fans of Rascals stuff lately so expecting good things. Anyone any thoughts?
    You're not going to go wrong with any of them in my opinion. Spacehopper was one of my favourite beers of 2020, and I though Breakfast of Champions was nicer than Whiplash/ 3fe one. Marooned is really good too imo.


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  • Posts: 7,852 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I need to revisit Big Hop Red again, the last time I tried it last year it had changed and wasn’t nearly as nice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,709 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    I need to revisit Big Hop Red again, the last time I tried it last year it had changed and wasn’t nearly as nice.
    I've been underwhelmed with lots of reds recently - I'm not really sure is it the beers having changed or my tastes having moved on from when I used to drink a lot of them. My favourite at the moment is Wicklow Wolf Wildfire, which isn't really a traditional red.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 917 ✭✭✭DrZeuss


    Basq wrote: »
    The new Sabro SMaSH IPA from White Hag is mighty good!

    After Salt Sabro and lately an excellent Larkins Sabro, I sure am looking forward to this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,988 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    Picked up plenty of beers I haven't tried for the weekend:

    - Rascals - Spacehopper
    - Rascals - The Breakfast Of Champions
    - Rascals - Big Hop Red
    - Larkins - Pale Ale
    - Whiplash - Hot Pursuit
    - Galway Bay - Buried At Sea
    - Dead Centre - Marooned

    Big fans of Rascals stuff lately so expecting good things. Anyone any thoughts?

    Have to say Spacehopper is an excellent beer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 391 ✭✭flended12


    Anyone any thoughts?

    Yea, wish I bought beer!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    flended12 wrote: »
    Yea, wish I bought beer!

    Picked up a couple of bottles of foxes rock lager but I forgot it always gives me a headache. I wish I hadn’t bought beer :)


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,405 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    Picked up the Larkins Sarbo on the strength of a post above. I have kind of lost touch with certain Irish breweries so I bought two Larkins and two Brehon brewhouse. I'm going to try to get around a bit more.

    Last night had a bottle of Duvel. It's been years. I forgot what a great, timeless beer it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,136 ✭✭✭youcancallmeal


    Put an order in with the new Yards and Crafts place. Not a massive selection but what they have is quality and fresh. Got a one of each of those Fuerst Wiacek beera and a load of other random stuff


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,705 ✭✭✭The Inbetween is mine


    Trouble Brewing bottles of Dark Arts Porter are only €1.25 in my local off licence ...nice and smooth... goes down very easily


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 443 ✭✭Starlord_01


    Picked up plenty of beers I haven't tried for the weekend:

    - Rascals - Spacehopper
    - Rascals - The Breakfast Of Champions
    - Rascals - Big Hop Red
    - Larkins - Pale Ale
    - Whiplash - Hot Pursuit
    - Galway Bay - Buried At Sea
    - Dead Centre - Marooned

    Big fans of Rascals stuff lately so expecting good things. Anyone any thoughts?

    Update, girlfriend also got me the Rascals Love Box for Valentines so a good weekend was had.

    The Rascals Breakfast of Champions was excellent, looking forward to the Milkshake Stout release.


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