Supporting craft breweries

Macy0161

Pulled the trigger on the Brown with Craft Central, as I'm a bit imperial'd out at this stage. Went with more Rabbit Hole, the new Kinnegar Saison and the Galway Bay NZ special rather than go with the Whiplash mixtape box of the three new ones.

MidlanderMan

Effects wrote: »

Which one was that? Not the recent Heart of Chambers?

No was something that happened pre-whiplash as a collab but has been re-released as a whiplash beer.

Pen Rua

Ah, I went for the mixed box of the new releases. They’re out of stock of Body Riddle and Rollover, and I wasn’t fancying the other single cans to bring the order to 6 units.

I’ve found myself going over the top with IPAs so it’s better for me to have some variety in my beer styles.

um7y1h83ge06nx

Talking about mini kegs I got 3 short dated kegs of Hope Gentleman Jack IPA for €20 each from O'Brien's.

Only the wife and I will be drinking them with no dispenser so will probably go through one over Friday and Saturday night.

Grand price at €20 but the supposedly RRP of €40 is expensive to me.

Effects

Fakey Cake Maker was showing as sold out as individual sales, so I went for the dark mixtape.

TaurenDruid

Brianna Handsome Zit wrote: »

Talking about mini kegs I got 3 short dated kegs of Hope Gentleman Jack IPA for €20 each from O'Brien's.

Only the wife and I will be drinking them with no dispenser so will probably go through one over Friday and Saturday night.

Grand price at €20 but the supposedly RRP of €40 is expensive to me.

€20 is a great price for 5 litres of a good IPA!

ThunbergsAreGo

Brianna Handsome Zit wrote: »

Talking about mini kegs I got 3 short dated kegs of Hope Gentleman Jack IPA for €20 each from O'Brien's.

Only the wife and I will be drinking them with no dispenser so will probably go through one over Friday and Saturday night.

Grand price at €20 but the supposedly RRP of €40 is expensive to me.

Which O'Briens? Or do you have them all gone

stefanovich

Buying bottles from Bru directly is more expensive than the supermarket. Why?

irish_goat

stefanovich wrote: »

Buying bottles from Bru directly is more expensive than the supermarket. Why?

They're likely charging the same retail price as an independent off licence, so as not to upset them. Supermarkets buy in bulk so can usually offer better prices.

It's the same for even the likes of BrewDog, you'll get Punk cheaper in Tesco.

stefanovich

irish_goat wrote: »

They're likely charging the same retail price as an independent off licence, so as not to upset them. Supermarkets buy in bulk so can usually offer better prices.

It's the same for even the likes of BrewDog, you'll get Punk cheaper in Tesco.

I know, but the price per bottle is 2.50 in the supermarket and more expensive per bottle for a slab direct from them...

Macy0161

stefanovich wrote: »

Buying bottles from Bru directly is more expensive than the supermarket. Why?

Most are the same in my experience. You are giving all the money to the brewery though.

stefanovich

Macy0161 wrote: »

Most are the same in my experience. You are giving all the money to the brewery though.

I do like supporting local business but you'd expect equivalent prices at least when you are buying in bulk.

Blackjack

Brianna Handsome Zit wrote: »

Talking about mini kegs I got 3 short dated kegs of Hope Gentleman Jack IPA for €20 each from O'Brien's.

Only the wife and I will be drinking them with no dispenser so will probably go through one over Friday and Saturday night.

Grand price at €20 but the supposedly RRP of €40 is expensive to me.

where was this??
Thats a great deal!.

Mickiemcfist

stefanovich wrote: »

I do like supporting local business but you'd expect equivalent prices at least when you are buying in bulk.

How much bulk do you think the supermarket are buying in?

um7y1h83ge06nx

ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »

Which O'Briens? Or do you have them all gone

All gone unfortunately, it was an online offer, found out about it on one of the booze bargain threads. Short-dated but I'm sure they will be fine.

Maybe the stores might have some as well but that would be hit and miss of course.

stefanovich

Mickiemcfist wrote: »

How much bulk do you think the supermarket are buying in?

So really the only reason to buy direct is to help the business out. That's fine but will put a lot of people off buying direct, you'd expect them to at least match the supermarket prices on bulk orders. They are not selling to the supermarket at a loss.

Now I have experience of other local non brewery businesses just completely taking the mickey... For instance adding a 100% premium to products. The Bru prices are at least fair enough.

Mickiemcfist

stefanovich wrote: »

So really the only reason to buy direct is to help the business out. That's fine but will put a lot of people off buying direct, you'd expect them to at least match the supermarket prices on bulk orders. They are not selling to the supermarket at a loss.

Now I have experience of other local non brewery businesses just completely taking the mickey... For instance adding a 100% premium to products. The Bru prices are at least fair enough.

Its not taking the Mickey, in a small operation selling volume is where the profit is. Picking & packing cases for one/two case deliveries take time & they mightnt have the resources for many online orders. So it makes sense to have the price high enough that A: it'll be worth it & B: the prices aren't appealing enough & drive up demand so that they wouldn't be able to manage the supply/logistics.

Separately, most producers promote a certain RRP & large chains always push to be able to sell below this, they sign on for thousands of cases on the proviso that they'll be able to sell cheaper than everyone else. So the brand has to sell at RRP to be able to stand over the RRP.

stefanovich

Mickiemcfist wrote: »

Its not taking the Mickey, in a small operation selling volume is where the profit is. Picking & packing cases for one/two case deliveries take time & they mightnt have the resources for many online orders. So it makes sense to have the price high enough that A: it'll be worth it & B: the prices aren't appealing enough & drive up demand so that they wouldn't be able to manage the supply/logistics.

Separately, most producers promote a certain RRP & large chains always push to be able to sell below this, they sign on for thousands of cases on the proviso that they'll be able to sell cheaper than everyone else. So the brand has to sell at RRP to be able to stand over the RRP.

What Bru are doing is fine. Small shop in town was selling a product - that is 150 direct from the producer online - for 300 in their shop. That seems like a massive profit. It wasn't beer though.

Pen Rua

Not strictly craft brewers, but The Bierhaus are doing a livestream on Sunday evening with the head brewer from Black's (Kinsale)

https://www.facebook.com/bierhauscork/posts/5500783959964206

Don't think it's meant to be in the vein of the Craic Beer Zoom calls, more of shooting the breeze vibe, which will probably include beer talk given the host & guest.

Basq

The new Sabro SMaSH IPA from White Hag is mighty good!

Starlord_01

Picked up plenty of beers I haven't tried for the weekend:

- Rascals - Spacehopper
- Rascals - The Breakfast Of Champions
- Rascals - Big Hop Red
- Larkins - Pale Ale
- Whiplash - Hot Pursuit
- Galway Bay - Buried At Sea
- Dead Centre - Marooned

Big fans of Rascals stuff lately so expecting good things. Anyone any thoughts?

Knightofcydonia

Starlord_01 wrote: »

Picked up plenty of beers I haven't tried for the weekend:

- Rascals - Spacehopper
- Rascals - The Breakfast Of Champions
- Rascals - Big Hop Red
- Larkins - Pale Ale
- Whiplash - Hot Pursuit
- Galway Bay - Buried At Sea
- Dead Centre - Marooned

Big fans of Rascals stuff lately so expecting good things. Anyone any thoughts?

I'm a fan of the Rascals stuff myself, really enjoyed the new breakfast stout. I only picked up two at the time but I'll be picking up more over the weekend.

Macy0161

Starlord_01 wrote: »

Big fans of Rascals stuff lately so expecting good things. Anyone any thoughts?

You're not going to go wrong with any of them in my opinion. Spacehopper was one of my favourite beers of 2020, and I though Breakfast of Champions was nicer than Whiplash/ 3fe one. Marooned is really good too imo.

I need to revisit Big Hop Red again, the last time I tried it last year it had changed and wasn’t nearly as nice.

Macy0161

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

I need to revisit Big Hop Red again, the last time I tried it last year it had changed and wasn’t nearly as nice.

I've been underwhelmed with lots of reds recently - I'm not really sure is it the beers having changed or my tastes having moved on from when I used to drink a lot of them. My favourite at the moment is Wicklow Wolf Wildfire, which isn't really a traditional red.

DrZeuss

Basq wrote: »

The new Sabro SMaSH IPA from White Hag is mighty good!

After Salt Sabro and lately an excellent Larkins Sabro, I sure am looking forward to this.

mfceiling

Starlord_01 wrote: »

Picked up plenty of beers I haven't tried for the weekend:

- Rascals - Spacehopper
- Rascals - The Breakfast Of Champions
- Rascals - Big Hop Red
- Larkins - Pale Ale
- Whiplash - Hot Pursuit
- Galway Bay - Buried At Sea
- Dead Centre - Marooned

Big fans of Rascals stuff lately so expecting good things. Anyone any thoughts?

Have to say Spacehopper is an excellent beer.

flended12

Starlord_01 wrote: »

Anyone any thoughts?

Yea, wish I bought beer!

stefanovich

flended12 wrote: »

Yea, wish I bought beer!

Picked up a couple of bottles of foxes rock lager but I forgot it always gives me a headache. I wish I hadn’t bought beer

Black Sheep

Picked up the Larkins Sarbo on the strength of a post above. I have kind of lost touch with certain Irish breweries so I bought two Larkins and two Brehon brewhouse. I'm going to try to get around a bit more.

Last night had a bottle of Duvel. It's been years. I forgot what a great, timeless beer it is.