Are we better off getting it now and out of the way?

RiseAbove4

As long as you’re under 55 with no major medical issues of course.

If we get it now it’s before the wheels fall off the HSE in a month in a system that wasn’t great to begin with. We’re 18 months away from a vaccine by which time I don’t even want to think about how high the numbers are.

Take the hit on it now and hope it builds immunity?

I’m not saying to go out of your way to get it of course. I just don’t think this is going away in a few months.

Is it proven that you are immune once you've had it?

RiseAbove4

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Is it proven that you are immune once you've had it?

Research on that seems hazy. It’s unknown if the people who did get it again had a relapse or not.

Salary Negotiator

RiseAbove4 wrote: »

Research on that seems hazy. It’s unknown if the people who did get it again had a relapse or not.

People have had it twice.

RiseAbove4

Salary Negotiator wrote: »

People have had it twice.

Some reports saying they were relapses.

Stheno

I suspect plenty of people have had it and didn't realise and just thought it was a particularly bad cold/flu tbh

Imreoir2

RiseAbove4 wrote: »

As long as you’re under 55 with no major medical issues of course.

If we get it now it’s before the wheels fall off the HSE in a month in a system that wasn’t great to begin with. We’re 18 months away from a vaccine by which time I don’t even want to think about how high the numbers are.

Take the hit on it now and hope it builds immunity?

I’m not saying to go out of your way to get it of course. I just don’t think this is going away in a few months.

Our current strategy is to suppress the virus and ensure that the vast majority never get it. The virus can do significant damage to your lungs, best avoid getting it at all.

CinemaGuy45

Stheno wrote: »

I suspect plenty of people have had it and didn't realise and just thought it was a particularly bad cold/flu tbh

Very much doubt that as we would have been spreading it to the old and venerable.

The wave of deaths sweeping Europe is very recent.

RiseAbove4

Stheno wrote: »

I suspect plenty of people have had it and didn't realise and just thought it was a particularly bad cold/flu tbh

Hopefully.

Stheno

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Very much doubt that as we would have been spreading it to the old and venerable.

The wave of deaths sweeping Europe is very recent.

14 day incubation, then illness. Could still be incubating in others tbh

smelly sock

Stheno wrote: »

I suspect plenty of people have had it and didn't realise and just thought it was a particularly bad cold/flu tbh

Seems no worse than a mild flu?

Jurgen Klopp

Imreoir2 wrote: »

Our current strategy is to suppress the virus and ensure that the vast majority never get it. The virus can do significant damage to your lungs, best avoid getting it at all.

But sure they've said they expect at minimum 60% of the population to get it with even with current measures

The measures aren't to stop people every getting it just to funnel the numbers in the hope there will be as many being discharged from hospital as are coming in needing beds you do know that?

Imreoir2

smelly sock wrote: »

Seems no worse than a mild flu?

Have you had it yet? "Mild" means that you don't have to go to hospital. The actual experiance may be hell for a week and still be clasified as mild if you don't need hospital treatment.

CinemaGuy45

smelly sock wrote: »

Seems no worse than a mild flu?

I an fed up reading this crap nearly 3,000 dead in Italy already.

Jurgen Klopp

Stheno wrote: »

I suspect plenty of people have had it and didn't realise and just thought it was a particularly bad cold/flu tbh

I was wondering the same a serious amount of people were getting it from October to January some still having the odd cough including myself and I shook it off before Xmas!

But as cinema said if it was that surely we'd have seen a curious spike in elderly deaths at the least

ThewhiteJesus

smelly sock wrote: »

Seems no worse than a mild flu?

It’s a killer flu

smelly sock

Imreoir2 wrote: »

Have you had it yet? "Mild" means that you don't have to go to hospital. The actual experiance may be hell for a week and still be clasified as mild if you don't need hospital treatment.

Yes i think i have had it.

Imreoir2

Jurgen Klopp wrote: »

But sure they've said they expect at minimum 60% of the population to get it with even with current measures

The measures aren't to stop people every getting it just to funnel the numbers in the hope there will be as many being discharged from hospital as are coming in needing beds you do know that?

Who said that???

The aim is to slow and stop the spread of disease, as has already been done in China. Wuhan did not come anywhere near 60% infection. It is possible to stop the spread of the disease through Social Distancing and good hand hygene.

JP Liz V1

smelly sock wrote: »

Seems no worse than a mild flu?

The death rate says different

Fr_Dougal

Wouldn’t you think that manflu would automatically give you immunity to all of these me-too type viruses....

Purple Mountain

landofthetree wrote: »

Your link has nothing to do with Cornavirus.

Maybe it has. Maybe he's been hard on the Corona today.

Long_Wave

Ok

Stheno

ThewhiteJesus wrote: »

It’s a killer flu

If you are old

Ciara Kelly earlier described her symptoms as a cross between an asthmatic attic and the flu

Not everyone who gets this gets particularly I'll

A town in Italy tested the entire town and had six positive tests out of 66 that were entirely asymptomatic- source guardian

Stheno

ThewhiteJesus wrote: »

It’s a killer flu

If you are old

Ciara Kelly earlier described her symptoms as a cross between an asthmatic attic and the flu

Not everyone who gets this gets particularly I'll

A town in Italy tested the entire town and had six positive tests out of 66 that were entirely asymptomatic- source guardian

CramCycle

NO can we close the thread now.

RiseAbove4

Imreoir2 wrote: »

Who said that???

The aim is to slow and stop the spread of disease, as has already been done in China. Wuhan did not come anywhere near 60% infection. It is possible to stop the spread of the disease through Social Distancing and good hand hygene.

China is lying. China always lies.

Everything is dick measuring contest with America for them

CinemaGuy45

Stheno wrote: »

If you are old

Ciara Kelly earlier described her symptoms as a cross between an asthmatic attic and the flu

Not everyone who gets this gets particularly I'll

A town in Italy tested the entire town and had six positive tests out of 66 that were entirely asymptomatic- source guardian

Not much help to the families of the 3,000 dead people now is it?:rolleyes:

paleoperson

Stheno wrote: »

If you are old

Ciara Kelly earlier described her symptoms as a cross between an asthmatic attic and the flu

Not everyone who gets this gets particularly I'll

A town in Italy tested the entire town and had six positive tests out of 66 that were entirely asymptomatic- source guardian

Plenty of young people have died from it.

Plenty of old people described their symptoms as being ****ing horrendous and they have been left with scarred lungs forever.

Plenty of people who get it get particularly ill.

CramCycle

Stheno wrote: »

If you are old

Ciara Kelly earlier described her symptoms as a cross between an asthmatic attic and the flu

Not everyone who gets this gets particularly I'll

A town in Italy tested the entire town and had six positive tests out of 66 that were entirely asymptomatic- source guardian

having had the flu, and having seen the effects on someone my age/demographic/fitness level, it can be alot worse than the flu. It could be alot better, in mny cases it will be but when its worse, it is so much worse.

paleoperson

OP, if you were to do this you would have to treat it as if you were carrying a loaded gun around.

You would HAVE to isolate 100% for that time, no getting out for a walk, nothing. Then you would have to have 2 negative tests taken with 24 hours in between to prove that you no longer had it. This is the protocol for quarantined people.

Imreoir2

RiseAbove4 wrote: »

China is lying. China always lies.

Everything is dick measuring contest with America for them

Is South Korea lying too?

CinemaGuy45

Weepsie wrote: »

It's also said by someone who has probably never had a flu, mild or otherwise. Regular flu absolutely flattens you for 10-14 days and then there's weeks of just not being right again.

I know I had a flu about two year ago I wished for death and I am not joking.

paleoperson

Weepsie wrote: »

It's also said by someone who has probably never had a flu, mild or otherwise. Regular flu absolutely flattens you for 10-14 days and then there's weeks of just not being right again.

I have never seen so many ridiculous comments as about this coronavirus. It's as if there's a DUMB virus going around and a lot of people have it.

Stheno

paleoperson wrote: »

Plenty of young people have died from it.

Plenty of old people described their symptoms as being ****ing horrendous and they have been left with scarred lungs forever.

Plenty of people who get it get particularly ill.

Have you seen the Italian stats?

24 of their 3000 dead were under 50, average age 80 for those who died and 97% had preexisting in ng conditions.

And what of the German stats which have a very low death rate?

Or back to Italy a country of 60 million with 30000 confirmed cases so an infection rate currently 0.05% of the population?

Are people just looking for hysteria here?

Yes it's bad but screaming out the headlines is pointless

krissovo

I said to my wife 3 weeks ago, if we get it now then we would have the best facilities available to us if we needed it. Now its a lottery what is available depending on the infection rate and how many Irish need serious attention. Ireland would never able to build hospitals in a week like the Chinese.

Jurgen Klopp

Stheno wrote: »

If you are old

Ciara Kelly earlier described her symptoms as a cross between an asthmatic attic and the flu

Not everyone who gets this gets particularly I'll

A town in Italy tested the entire town and had six positive tests out of 66 that were entirely asymptomatic- source guardian

Sorry just to be clear only 6 positives out of 66 and those entire 6 had no symptoms is it

CinemaGuy45

Stheno wrote: »

Have you seen the Italian stats?

24 of their 3000 dead were under 50, average age 80 for those who died and 97% had preexisting in ng conditions.

And what of the German stats which have a very low death rate?

So?

Imreoir2

Stheno wrote: »

Have you seen the Italian stats?

24 of their 3000 dead were under 50, average age 80 for those who died and 97% had preexisting in ng conditions.

And what of the German stats which have a very low death rate?

What point are you trying to make? Over 3,000 people are dead in Italy, another 500+ will die tomorrow.

Stheno

Jurgen Klopp wrote: »

Sorry just to be clear only 6 positives out of 66 and those entire 6 had no symptoms is it

No 6 of the 66 positive never developed any symptoms

CinemaGuy45

Imreoir2 wrote: »

What point are you trying to make? Over 3,000 people are dead in Italy, another 500+ will die tomorrow.

They are old so they don't matter to some apparently.:mad:

Stheno

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

So?

So we are not all going to get it, most who do wont end up in hospital so quit the hysterics, practice good hand hygiene and social distancing and you'll still be here when this is over

wakka12

smelly sock wrote: »

Seems no worse than a mild flu?

Mild in medical terms does not mean it is a walk in the park. It just means you dont need hospital treatment as your life is not in danger, nothing else. I'm sure you have had awful illness at home and not felt you were life was in danger that youd need to go to A&E

Stheno

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

They are old so they don't matter to some apparently.:mad:

That wasn't my point - no need to be a dick

PickYourName

Imreoir2 wrote: »

Our current strategy is to suppress the virus and ensure that the vast majority never get it. The virus can do significant damage to your lungs, best avoid getting it at all.

Significant damage up to and including killing you even if you're not elderly, so yes, best avoid getting it OK.....

wakka12

Stheno wrote: »

Have you seen the Italian stats?

24 of their 3000 dead were under 50, average age 80 for those who died and 97% had preexisting in ng conditions.

And what of the German stats which have a very low death rate?

Or back to Italy a country of 60 million with 30000 confirmed cases so an infection rate currently 0.05% of the population?

Are people just looking for hysteria here?

Yes it's bad but screaming out the headlines is pointless

The average age is high as the younger the patient is the higher priority they are to save.

CinemaGuy45

Stheno wrote: »

So we are not all going to get it, most who do wont end up in hospital so quit the hysterics, practice good hand hygiene and social distancing and you'll still be here when this is over

Guess what we are not all self centered if I die I won't be around to worry about.

The fact that the elderly seem to be baring the brunt of most of the deaths must be very scary for anybody in that age group and for those who care for them.

CinemaGuy45

Stheno wrote: »

That wasn't my point - no need to be a dick

I am not being a dick.

I find the lack of concern for the elderly very cold.

None of us are getting any younger and there is only one alliterative to getting old.

Cork Boy 53

smelly sock wrote: »

Yes i think i have had it.

I very much doubt it. What were your symptoms?

Stheno

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Guess what we are not all self centered if I die I won't be around to worry about.

The fact that the elderly seem to be baring the brunt of most of the deaths must be very scary for anybody in that age group and for those who care for them.

I'm sure it is. It's why they need to self isolate

My mum and aunts are all on the over 70s group with comorbidities and all self isolating and being checked in on several times a day

CinemaGuy45

Stheno wrote: »

I'm sure it is. It's why they nee DC to self isolat ed

My mum and aunts are all on the over 70s group with comorbidities and all self is ok latkng and being checked in on several times a day

That is good to hear.

Imreoir2

Stheno wrote: »

So we are not all going to get it, most who do wont end up in hospital so quit the hysterics, practice good hand hygiene and social distancing and you'll still be here when this is over

Hysterics? We are two weeks away from doctors in Irish hospitals having to perform battlefield triage, deciding who lives and who dies, because the number of cases requiring critical care will be too high to cope with.