Cheltenham, Friday March 13th, Gold Cup Day

Gavin "shels"

Friday Thread

howareyakid

Ramses De Teillee e/w in the Albert Bartlett. Remains to be seen if he has the class to win a race like this but he definitely has experience on his side.

I had a small bet on Clan Des Obeaux for the Gold Cup although I wouldn’t be overly confident about him. Hoping he can improve on last years fifth but should be a good race to enjoy in any case.

Joseph O’Brien has a strong team of juveniles as he did last year and Front View has been very well backed in the Martin Pipe. He looks set to be well placed to give a good showing.

In the Foxhunters, there are a few interesting runners; Hazel Hill has done nothing wrong since winning last year, Shantou Flyer ran a cracker to finish second and is set to give it another go, as is Caid Du Berlais who destroyed the field in the Punchestown equivalent. And the latter may get my selection at around 10/1 but I will make a final decision closer to the time.

Motivator

howareyakid wrote: »

Ramses De Teillee e/w in the Albert Bartlett. Remains to be seen if he has the class to win a race like this but he definitely has experience on his side.

I had a small bet on Clan Des Obeaux for the Gold Cup although I wouldn’t be overly confident about him. Hoping he can improve on last years fifth but should be a good race to enjoy in any case.

Joseph O’Brien has a strong team of juveniles as he did last year and Front View has been well backed in the Martin Pipe and looks like he will go well in that.

In the Foxhunters, there are a few interesting runners; Hazel Hill has done nothing wrong since winning last year, Shantou Flyer ran a cracker to finish second and is set to give it another go as is Caid Du Berlais who destroyed the field in the Punchestown equivalent last year. And the latter may get my selection at around 10/1 but I will make a final decision closer to the time.

Caid Du Berlais won a Paddy Power Gold Cup at the November meeting in 2014, he was a classy horse on his day you could be on to something there that’s a nice shout.

howareyakid

Motivator wrote: »

Caid Du Berlais won a Paddy Power Gold Cup at the November meeting in 2014, he was a classy horse on his day you could be on to something there that’s a nice shout.

Was at Punchestown on the Friday last year when he won. Backed him that day and he looked a class apart! Wins at the Cheltenham Festival have eluded him throughout his career, despite hitting the post on a few occasions, so maybe this will be the year he puts it right.

Rabbit Redux

I'd expect Caid Du Berlais to be at his absolute peak for Punchestown. Won a point to point in January and will come on again for the Cheltenham Foxhunters.
Punchestown is the time to lump on.

howareyakid

Rabbit Redux wrote: »

I'd expect Caid Du Berlais to be at his absolute peak for Punchestown. Won a point to point in January and will come on again for the Cheltenham Foxhunters.
Punchestown is the time to lump on.

He won in Punchestown the year before as well so would be going for a hattrick there if he goes this year. I wonder would Cheltenham be the one they’re really targeting this year though?

Charlie George

Just watched a re-run on last years gold cup, Al boum hit a good few fences and still won snug enough, will be hard to beat if he gets around.

Rabbit Redux

howareyakid wrote: »

He won in Punchestown the year before as well so would be going for a hattrick there if he goes this year. I wonder would Cheltenham be the one they’re really targeting this year though?

Trainers tend to be creatures of habit. I have a feeling they'd rather use the Cheltenham race as a stepping stone to bring him on for Punchestown rather than aim to win it. I've had him in my sights again as a good thing for the Punchestown Festival for a long time, just like Hazel Hill has been laid out for the Cheltenham Foxhunters since he won the race last year.

TheMilkyPirate

Hazel hill a stone wall certainty. Not right the last day will win by 10+ lengths

Rabbit Redux

TheMilkyPirate wrote: »

Hazel hill a stone wall certainty. Not right the last day will win by 10+ lengths

Gave 4lbs to Minella Rocco that day and was only beaten a length and a half. Rocco already had the benefit of a few racecourse outings before that. 4/1 looks very fair.

supremenovice

I was on Native River ante post but thats bust now so I'm going to go for Monalee in the Gold Cup. De Bromhead has wrapped him in cotton wool for the season and hasn't been seen since a fine effort in second behind Delta Work at Christmas. Rachael Blackmore could be the new star (reluctantly) of jump racing come next Saturday and it could be Monalee that propels her there.

unplayable

Clan Des obeux will stay all day 7/1 each way hopefully 4 places on the day on offer bet to nothing.

howareyakid

supremenovice wrote: »

I was on Native River ante post but thats bust now so I'm going to go for Monalee in the Gold Cup. De Bromhead has wrapped him in cotton wool for the season and hasn't been seen since a fine effort in second behind Delta Work at Christmas. Rachael Blackmore could be the new star (reluctantly) of jump racing come next Saturday and it could be Monalee that propels her there.

Kevin Blake put him up at the ATR preview as “one at a bit of a wild price” e/w. I backed him last year for the Ryanair but I’d say he’s a horse that wanted a bit further. He has some decent Cheltenham from in the book with second in the Albert Bartlett behind Penhill and of course second behind Percy in the RSA so he could yet be seen to good effect in this Gold Cup.

Motivator

howareyakid wrote: »

Kevin Blake put him up at the ATR preview as “one at a bit of a wild price” e/w. I backed him last year for the Ryanair but I’d say he’s a horse that wanted a bit further. He has some decent Cheltenham from in the book with second in the Albert Bartlett behind Penhill and of course second behind Percy in the RSA so he could yet be seen to good effect in this Gold Cup.

I’d be of the opinion that Monalee won’t stay the trip in a Gold Cup. I can’t see him getting up the hill at all. I really like the horse and he’s won me a few quid in the past but I’ve never thought of him as a Gold Cup horse. He’s finished second in the last two Lexus’ at Christmas but I think the 3 miles over the big ones is his limit. The extra 2 furlongs up the hill at Cheltenham is like an extra half mile at any other track.

howareyakid

Motivator wrote: »

I’d be of the opinion that Monalee won’t stay the trip in a Gold Cup. I can’t see him getting up the hill at all. I really like the horse and he’s won me a few quid in the past but I’ve never thought of him as a Gold Cup horse. He’s finished second in the last two Lexus’ at Christmas but I think the 3 miles over the big ones is his limit. The extra 2 furlongs up the hill at Cheltenham is like an extra half mile at any other track.

That may well prove to be a more accurate summation of Monalee’s chances. I wouldn’t put anyone off a few quid e/w though. Especially if Rachael and De Bromhead are in from.

Coneygree

unplayable wrote: »

Clan Des obeux will stay all day 7/1 each way hopefully 4 places on the day on offer bet to nothing.

I would have thought CDO's only real issue is the fact he won't stay all day, or at all. Isn't he not guilty of the same thing Silviniaco Conti was?

I've Kemboy and LIT backed with a while, not that happy with either given recent form but they are probably two with the most ability on their day so happy enough to take a chance on them. Think ABP is a good thing though. He didn't even have a dream race last year and won handily enough in the end.

Motivator

Coneygree wrote: »

I would have thought CDO's only real issue is the fact he won't stay all day, or at all. Isn't he not guilty of the same thing Silviniaco Conti was?

I've Kemboy and LIT backed with a while, not that happy with either given recent form but they are probably two with the most ability on their day so happy enough to take a chance on them. Think ABP is a good thing though. He didn't even have a dream race last year and won handily enough in the end.

Look at ABP’s time compared to previous renewals run on the same ground. Better than Kauto.

Slattsy

Has anyone mentioned Santini yet?

Coneygree

Slattsy wrote: »

Has anyone mentioned Santini yet?

Would win the Grand National on the snaff!

RivetingRoger

Percy


Percy


Percy

Doctors room ghost

GO ON THE PERCY

Rabbit Redux

unplayable wrote: »

Clan Des obeux will stay all day 7/1 each way hopefully 4 places on the day on offer bet to nothing.

Not sure he'll stay all day. He reminds me of horses like Dorans Pride, Florida Pearl, and Silviniaco Conti who looked fine over 3 miles on an easy track but were always found out in a Cheltenham Gold Cup. I'd also include One Man in that list but he was an exceptional horse who proved himself good enough to win a Champion Chase, and was probably campaigned over the incorrect distance for most of his career.

JP Liz V1

E/W on Chriss Dream in Gold Cup

RivetingRoger

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

E/W on Chriss Dream in Gold Cup

Thought it was NR?

hefferboi

Goshen is my NAP of the week.

Gavin "shels"

hefferboi wrote: »

Goshen is my NAP of the week.

One of my heavy fancies also, can't believe the Solo hype!

hefferboi

Moore says he's the best horse he's trained by a long shot.

JP Liz V1

RivetingRoger wrote: »

Thought it was NR?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/cheltenham-festival-2020/11146951/cheltenham-gold-cup-declarations-al-boum-photo-friday-runners/

Completing the line-up at Kemboy, Presenting Percy, Bristol De Mai, Chris's Dream, Monalee, Elegant Escape and Real Steel

RivetingRoger

Boris confirmed
We are on!

supremenovice

I'm gonna stick with Monalee. Wrapped in cotton wool since Christmas when he was just beaten by Delta Work. Ryanair was too short for him last year (just like Don Cossack). 25/1 each way is where my money is going (whats left of it )

Coneygree

Desperately hoping Tizzard has said **** it and only decided to train Lostintranslation for Cheltenham! What a rancid poor week from his lot.

PsychoPete

13:30 Solo
14:10 Ciel De Neige
14:50 Fury Road & Ramses De Teillee e/w
15:30 Delta Work
16:10 Billaway
16:50 Greanteen
17:30 Escaria Ten e/w

In the hole already so what's another 7 races for me

ShaneU

hefferboi wrote: »

Goshen is my NAP of the week.

Choo choo everyone get on the Goshen Express

Coneygree

13.30 Allmankind and Aspire Tower
14.10 Aramon for the Ara double hup!
14.50 Latest Exhibition and Redford Road EW
15.30 I hate watching the Gold Cup as I am usually stressed too much to watch it properly. I've LIT and Kemboy and both look like shocking bets now so I'm happy enough to just sit back, hope for a miracle and hope Al Boum, Delta Work and Santini have a cracker.
16.10 Billaway and Staker Wallace
16.50 Lisp and Eclair De Beaufeu
17.30 Front View and The Bosses Oscar

Have some lovely prices tomorrow and some equally shocking ones, notably for the Gold Cup which is a pain but happy enough to let things fly now.

zpehtsfd

The finale is here. Suffering from major seconditis last few days with a few winners.

13:30 - Solo tentative choice in what looks a strong renewal. Would love to see a star emerge from this race. Badly needed.
14:10 - Stolen Silver staying on well in the Betfair. Should enjoy conditions here much better.
14:50 - Latest Exhibition if he was trained by one of the big guns he'd be half the price. Oscar's have a great record in this race.
15:30 - Santini to outstay them all up the hill
16:10 - No Idea
16:50 - Two Taffs for a bit of value. Genuine sort who rarely runs a bad race.
17:30 - Front View same connections as last years winner. Going to do a fun JP R/F with him and Ilikedwayurthinkin. Would be a perfect ending to a great festival for him.

Best of luck to everyone!!

Rock Lesnar

Really fancy Delta Work, just wish Davy was on board though

NaiveMelodies

Aramon day is nigh.

RivetingRoger

Incredible how easily Hazel Hill is being written off
Pissed home 12 months ago

Plasandrunt

Gold Cup big one for me tomorrow.

EW double on Min/Al Boum Photo
EW double on Envoi Allen/Al Boum Photo
EW treble on Envoi Allen/Min/Al Boum Photo
Skybet request a bet on Envoi Allen,Min and either Lostintranslation or Al Boum Photo

Potential returns if ABP wins 297points

Then

EW singles on Lostintranslation at 25s, 16s and 7s.
EW double Clan Des Obeaux for the King George/Lostintranslation Gold Cup double
Aforementioned Skybet request a bet.

Potential returns if Lostintranslation wins 358points.

Aspire Tower
Thyme Hill
Kemboy

for me in singles and a treble.

I like the cut of Chris's Dream's jib so worth a little E/W investment in the Gold Cup. I'm gonna have to abandon Blackmore in this one as I couldn't in good conscience back Monalee. Pity she's not on the Dream.

Chesty08

No love in here for Allmankind?

oldfella

What’s the official going for Friday ..on chris’s dream big time .he needs it soft

gazza1

Goshen
Aramon
Fury Road
Al Boum Photo
Shantou Flyer
Lisp
Front View

oldfella

oldfella wrote: »

What’s the official going for Friday ..on chris’s dream big time .he needs it soft

Soft, good to soft in places.

RivetingRoger

Soft, good to soft will suit Delta, not sure who else tho

Coneygree

RivetingRoger wrote: »

Soft, good to soft will suit Delta, not sure who else tho

CDO and LIT you'd imagine although most of the field shouldn't mind it too much at all.

laguacamaya

Have Aspire Tower backed ante. Will do a saver on Goshen (offer with PP) . Clan Des Obeaux ew for Gold Cup.

RivetingRoger

Coneygree wrote: »

CDO and LIT you'd imagine although most of the field shouldn't mind it too much at all.

Santini wouldn't want it too good

Lucy8080

A Santini win puts me ahead for the week. But I could have said the same of notebook or Defi. Fair warning on my luck, so far, all. As it stands I'm behind.

1.30 Goshen
2.10 Aramon/ You raise me up
2.50 Last Exhibition
3.30 Lost In Translation
4.10 Hazel Hill
4.50 Chosen Mate
5.30 Pileon/Espoir De Romay


Bar Goshen (win) ,I'll be on all the above e.w. ,in singles or more.

GL all.

The Mig

Allmankind for me too today. Course form and for me has better form than Goshen

Coneygree

I think Goshen could very easily do an Our Conor and destroy this field but his jumping forces me to put a line through him completely. Plenty there with stamina, notably AMK and plenty there to set the pace too. Goshen tends to jump like a complete dope towards the end of the race and although there isn't much jumping towards the end of the race, the quality here is like nothing he's been up against and you'd wonder how he fares with that pressure. He looks like some tool though, very exciting.