Congress 2020

Surprised there’s nothing on this at all.

Larry McCarthy from NY elected president, though really should never have been allowed to run in the first place. Pity Burns didn’t get in as he was the only one who was going to change anything.

Any good place to keep track of the motions? I see the one to stop team officials going on the pitch missed out by 1% but the one to stop passing back to the keeper after a kickout passed.

Big dog daly

John fogarty (irish examiner) is posting updates on twitter. The gaa site usually has a live stream and an updated blog on their site on the Saturday

Redsoxfan

Great to see Jarlath losing.

h2005

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Surprised there’s nothing on this at all.

Larry McCarthy from NY elected president, though really should never have been allowed to run in the first place. Pity Burns didn’t get in as he was the only one who was going to change anything.

Why shouldn’t he have been allowed run?

h2005

h2005 wrote: »

Why shouldn’t he have been allowed run?

New York? There’s nothing more bent and underhand than US GAA.

Though I did see since that he’s going to reside here for his term. If he’s held to that then it’s not as bad.

PTH2009

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Surprised there’s nothing on this at all.

Larry McCarthy from NY elected president, though really should never have been allowed to run in the first place. Pity Burns didn’t get in as he was the only one who was going to change anything.

hes orginally from Cork enough said

the rebels seem to always have power in the GAA

seligehgit

A motion proposing that any player who receives a kick out cannot pass it back to their goalkeeper was passed.

The penalty for breaching the rule will be a free to the opposition from where the goalkeeper receives the back-pass.

Or if the goalkeeper is behind his 13 metre line when he gets the ball,the free will be taken from the 13 metre line opposite where he receives possession.

StupidLikeAFox

PTH2009 wrote: »

hes orginally from Cork enough said

the rebels seem to always have power in the GAA

There's been a grand total of 3 GAA presidents from cork in the last 100 years

threeball

seligehgit wrote: »

A motion proposing that any player who receives a kick out cannot pass it back to their goalkeeper was passed.

The penalty for breaching the rule will be a free to the opposition from where the goalkeeper receives the back-pass.

Or if the goalkeeper is behind his 13 metre line when he gets the ball,the free will be taken from the 13 metre line opposite where he receives possession.

This is a positive rule, I suggested that something like this was brought in last year, although I had suggested he would have to get it outside the 45 if he got it back rather than a free against. You won't see the quick chip kick out to the full back anymore as he'll have no outlet if a team pushes up. Delighted it passed, it will move the game back towards it's roots rather than the soccer like play out from the back game it has become.

When does it come in to effect?

seligehgit

threeball wrote: »

This is a positive rule, I suggested that something like this was brought in last year, although I had suggested he would have to get it outside the 45 if he got it back rather than a free against. You won't see the quick chip kick out to the full back anymore as he'll have no outlet if a team pushes up. Delighted it passed, it will move the game back towards it's roots rather than the soccer like play out from the back game it has become.

When does it come in to effect?

It's a very positive move.

This year's championship.

Here’s all the motions.

https://www.gaa.ie/news/annual-congress-2020-the-motions-explained/

Big Ears

threeball wrote: »

Delighted it passed, it will move the game back towards it's roots rather than the soccer like play out from the back game it has become.

When does it come in to effect?

Well not really it's roots, at the introduction of Gaelic Football the ball would have been too heavy to be kicked into the midfield area, and would have to go short, creating many a skirmish.

What you really mean is go back to the 60's/70's/80's, which is fine if that's what you want, but let's not pretend the game used to always be like that from the start.

BPKS

seligehgit wrote: »

It's a very positive move.

This year's championship.

This is something I just don't get.

They trial a set of rules that were proposed by a taskforce who obviously spend time discussing, using stats and other information in coming up with new rules.

Then somebody else decides whether they should be implemented or not e.g. Not being allowed kick pass a sideline backwards.

Then some club or county proposes a rule, it gets to Congress where a bunch of boozed up goons decide its faith and if its passed it comes straight into play for the most important competition.

What a fcuked up system.

threeball

seligehgit wrote: »

It's a very positive move.

This year's championship.

The black card in hurling and the designated players allowed to speak to the ref would be good additions too. Far too much jawing at refs

seligehgit

I saw Davy and Liam Sheedy on six one news speaking out against it's introduction.

threeball

seligehgit wrote: »

I saw Davy and Liam Sheedy on six one news speaking out against it's introduction.

Hate that us hurling people don't want change sh2te. The rule is badly needed, blatant pull downs and goal scoring chances prevented every game. It's well worth 10mins in the bin.

seligehgit

threeball wrote: »

The black card in hurling and the designated players allowed to speak to the ref would be good additions too. Far too much jawing at refs

Is back chat to the referee to become a black card offence?

threeball

seligehgit wrote: »

Is back chat to the referee to become a black card offence?

I thought it already was. Didn't a player get binned for it recently.

threeball

Big Ears wrote: »

Well not really it's roots, at the introduction of Gaelic Football the ball would have been too heavy to be kicked into the midfield area, and would have to go short, creating many a skirmish.

What you really mean is go back to the 60's/70's/80's, which is fine if that's what you want, but let's not pretend the game used to always be like that from the start.

The best football era was the 90s to early 00s and teams didn't play out from the back then. Hopefully we see games looking more like that era on restarts than today's games with truly competitive midfields.

seligehgit

seligehgit wrote: »

Is back chat to the referee to become a black card offence?

There is a motion to only allow a few people to speak to the ref at all but it probably won’t pass.

No hurling black card thankfully.

Motion 19 passes.


https://twitter.com/moseyb86/status/1233725768494198784?s=21

Interested to see what happens with motion 33.

MOTION 33

This motion proposes to establish a National Club Fixtures Oversight Committee and sets out who the members would be and the powers of the Committee. It would investigage matters related to the enforcement of rules on the scheduling and postponement of club fixtures, inter-county player availability to clubs, inter-county challenge and tournament games and closed periods/collective training. The proposed committee would also have responsibility for approving county club fixture programmes on an annual basis and ensuring county club fixture programmes are consistent with the Association's rules and policies.

seligehgit

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

No hurling black card thankfully.

Just genuinely curious as to your issue with the black card?

I'm disappointed TBH.

Then again what would a Mayo man know about hurling.:)

seligehgit

seligehgit wrote: »

Just genuinely curious as to your issue with the black card?

I'm disappointed TBH.

Then again what would a Mayo man know about hurling.:)

There’s probably a better solution out there and they might look for one now. In hurling reducing a team would be fairly steep for something that the ref might not even get right.

Gael85

threeball wrote: »

The best football era was the 90s to early 00s and teams didn't play out from the back then. Hopefully we see games looking more like that era on restarts than today's games with truly competitive midfields.

If teams pushed up on kickouts rather putting 15 bodies the ball would see more midfield battles. This new rule won't change as teams will still go short on restarts.

blowitupref

So the returning Tommy Murphy cup has a new name. Tailteann Cup.

Grats

threeball wrote: »

Hate that us hurling people don't want change sh2te. The rule is badly needed, blatant pull downs and goal scoring chances prevented every game. It's well worth 10mins in the bin.

Fouling is gone ridiculous in the last few years. If refs were to blow every foul, like some justifiably did last weekend, we'd get a true sense of the amount of fouls. Also take account of the fouls not recorded when advantage is played. Refs should be instructed to blow every foul and issue cards until coaches and managers take responsibility for their part in sending out players to foul and force them to change their tactics. Hurling is fast going down the football route which will eventually result in the introduction of the black card.

blowitupref

blowitupref wrote: »

So the returning Tommy Murphy cup has a new name. Tailteann Cup.

Be God they actually bothered give it one.

Big Ears

threeball wrote: »

The best football era was the 90s to early 00s and teams didn't play out from the back then. Hopefully we see games looking more like that era on restarts than today's games with truly competitive midfields.

Best ?, it was certainly more competitive with a lot more teams in with the chance of winning. But the rule set likely had little to do with that.

The best matches I've seen in my lifetime (born at the end of the 1980's) have probably been the ones involving Dublin, Kerry, Mayo etc in the last 5-6 years.
Fantastic stuff, played at an amazing tempo and standard with no lack of kick passing involved.
However the lead up to those games was usually extremely uncompetitive provincial Championships.

Changing the rules to force teams to kick long will not fix that. There's plenty of dinosaurs out who think the game has been ruined by too much hand passing and not humping the ball up the field for 50/50 contests, but the truth is whenever teams have been well matched in the current era we've usually come away with great games of football.

Offaly and Meath for example played out a pulsating well matched game in Navan last year, nothing wrong with it.
Meath were then hammered by Dublin in the Leinster final.....the solution ?, let's limit short passing and get teams to go long.

There was huge support to introduce a new kickout rule a few years ago where the ball would have to go past the 45. Obviously in conditions of strong wind that just isn't feasible, so instead we're left with other rules to try and force teams to go long.

An older generation who nostalgically long for the way the game used to be played', are trying to force a return to that era via rule changes.
The only effect this will have is to reduce how watchable the game is, meanwhile the real issue of funding and development officers for weaker counties remains unaddressed.