Looking for work and having children.

Cork_Langer1

Cork_Langer1 wrote: »

Yes it does, some crank in the intro office can't make a person take a job that doesn't benefit their well-being or finances.

As I said apply for any job and provide proof of the applying for said jobs will keep them happy.

And this thread shows always say yes sir three bags full sir to anyone in intro, anything you say can and will be used against you.

And again, why the system is abused and why tax payers are fed up.

You actually feel aggrieved that the people with jobs and paying tax that supports your bum life are trying to get you a job and off their backs.

Away With The Fairies

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

But she is looking for work and is meeting that condition to get JSA. Where does it say in the rules that they have to find work on the other side of the country if that's where the jobs are? That's ridiculous.

It’s also important to remember that childcare costs don’t last forever.

20/20

OP if you live in Oranmore can your wife not find a job in Galway city ??

Google maps say 18 mins on the R338. Or 19 mins on the N67 .
Where are you getting at least two hours of travel.

Away With The Fairies

20/20 wrote: »

OP if you live in Oranmore can your wife not find a job in Galway city ??

Google maps say 18 mins on the R338. Or 19 mins on the N67 .
Where are you getting at least two hours of travel.

Where does it say he lives in oranmore? Nevermind, it was in his previous posts elsewhere. Oranmore isn't that far from Galway city.

sallysue2

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

But she is looking for work and is meeting that condition to get JSA. Where does it say in the rules that they have to find work on the other side of the country if that's where the jobs are? That's ridiculous.

I've explained it in one of my earlier posts, she does not meet the requirements. It is clear, to get jobseekers you must be "available for work and genuinely seeking work". As per op, she is looking for work that fits in with her school run and won't commute an hour to work. One hour is not unreasonable. Nobody is telling her to commute to Cork from galway but an hour is reasonable.

Op I'm assuming an hour commute is to city centre in peak traffic. There are jobs on the outskirts of the city, or the train might be an option. I get the train from oranmore, free parking and you miss all the traffic. It can be uncomfortably busy but that's life.

20/20

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Where does it say he lives in oranmore?

His history.

Sleeper12

Away With The Fairies wrote:

Some people don't have the help of grand parents.

I've already offered a way OPs wife can sign off & earn up to 15k tax free by minding children in her own home & OP gets his wife's tax credits /tax free allowance. They can earn up to another 14k totally tax free by availing of the rent a room scheme. I suppose minding children in your own home or moving two kids into one room to make room for a lodger is something rural people shouldn't have to do either?

If 5000 people live close by as OP says then people will rent a room & people will want someone to mind their children. The way people talk about Dublin you'd swear it's a different country.

sallysue2

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Where does it say he lives in oranmore? Nevermind, it was in his previous posts elsewhere. Oranmore isn't that far from Galway city.

Oh for god sake. There is a train from oranmore. Free parking and costs €6 return a day.

Away With The Fairies

Also get childcare in the city.

sallysue2

sallysue2 wrote: »

It can be uncomfortably busy but that's life.

Only for the likes of you. Not for the 'jobseeker' it seems

Titclamp

stauntj wrote: »

My wife got quite the grilling recently in social welfare. The lady suggested work options to her in galway city which she didnt want to do between additional hours travelling and extra childcare costs.

Unfortunately she was in tears after the interview and when I told someone in social welfare, they said hand in a complaint letter.


So we did.

Now got a letter back saying that my wife showed reluctance to work afternoons as needs to pick up kids and that she needs to go in and clarify or her payment is in jeopardy.

Great.

So my question is, where do we stand on this.

She is available for work but needs something local and thought with additional childcare costs and school runs, she has a right to say that without losing payment? Working in city will be extra two hours a day commuting and 2 hours a day of extra childcare costs.

What should we do?

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Ireland is gone anti family so don't expect it to change for you unfortunately

Away With The Fairies

sallysue2 wrote: »

Oh for god sake. There is a train from oranmore. Free parking and costs €6 return a day.

I had some sympathy at the beginning until I read that he's from oranmore. It's really not that far of a commute.

Sleeper12

20/20 wrote:

OP if you live in Oranmore can your wife not find a job in Galway city ??

Good detective work

sallysue2 wrote:

Oh for god sake. There is a train from oranmore. Free parking and costs €6 return a day.

The thinking seems to be why spend 6 per day on travel & pay childminders when gob****es like us are willing to pay her to stay home and mind her children.

The one in the welfare office kicking up a fuss deserves a pay rise imo.

stauntj

Sleeper12 wrote: »

What are you suggesting? Dublin people are supposed to have a lower standard of family life that rural Ireland? And on top of that working Dubs should pay for the social benefits of people not willing to put as much into providing for their own family?

You have to winding me up here?

You cant have it both ways. Do you support a higher min wage for those in dublin? I do, its logical, things cost more. Should those in rural areas be held to the same commuting times as those working in dublin? Should it be 1, 2 or 6 hours day commuting. How about we help each other up rather than drag each other down.

Salary Negotiator

stauntj wrote: »

You cant have it both ways. Do you support a higher min wage for those in dublin? I do, its logical, things cost more. Should those in rural areas be held to the same commuting times as those working in dublin? Should it be 1, 2 or 6 hours day commuting. How about we help each other up rather than drag each other down.

Getting a job and teaching your kids the value of hard work and paying one’s own way would be a start.

stauntj

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

I had some sympathy at the beginning until I read that he's from oranmore. It's really not that far of a commute.

I'm not a regular boards user, came here for advice not a grilling, we couldnt afford to stay in oranmore and moved out further.

We have 1 car and actual commute time without a car to galway city works out at 2.5hrs per day min.

I didnt think I'd have to justify my position so much on here, I think I will keep my town anonymous all things considered with some of the responses on here.

stauntj

Salary Negotiator wrote: »

Getting a job and teaching your kids the value of hard work and paying one’s own way would be a start.

I have a job?

Salary Negotiator

stauntj wrote: »

I have a job?

Your wife doesn’t, which would be fine if she wasn’t also looking for handouts.

stauntj

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Good detective work



The thinking seems to be why spend 6 per day on travel & pay childminders when gob****es like us are willing to pay her to stay home and mind her children.

The one in the welfare office kicking up a fuss deserves a pay rise imo.

Except I don't live there and you have just come across as a grade A asshole.

Stheno

stauntj wrote: »

I have a job?

You could look to increase your earning power for your wife to stay at home without defrauding the state?

Or you could look at working family payment and see if you ar entitled to it?

stauntj

Stheno wrote: »

You could look to increase your earning power for your wife to stay at home without defrauding the state?

Or you could look at working family payment and see if you ar entitled to it?

Thanks, yes I've recently upskilled and earning a little more with greater earnings down the line. It's a part payment she receives based on means which will reduce further in time regardless of finding paid work. Working family payment an option considering tx

Away With The Fairies

stauntj wrote: »

You cant have it both ways. Do you support a higher min wage for those in dublin? I do, its logical, things cost more. Should those in rural areas be held to the same commuting times as those working in dublin? Should it be 1, 2 or 6 hours day commuting. How about we help each other up rather than drag each other down.

We don't have different minimum wages in Ireland. You live in Oranmore. Galway isn't even that far of a commute and I'm sure your wife will be able to get work with her specialised training.

Also in your original post, you mention additional school runs. What extra school runs is she doing by taking up work? The school runs are there regardless but I think you're looking for sympathy which I originally had for you but I think you're looking for ways for your wife to stay at home and mind the kids. There has been a good suggestion of minding kids in your own home though.

Sleeper12

stauntj wrote:

You cant have it both ways. Do you support a higher min wage for those in dublin? I do, its logical, things cost more. Should those in rural areas be held to the same commuting times as those working in dublin? Should it be 1, 2 or 6 hours day commuting. How about we help each other up rather than drag each other down.

I support a higher minimum wage for every worker in Ireland. In case you don't realise Dublin is in Ireland. We have the exact same minimum wage as you do in the West of Ireland.

Mate just so you know. An OAP on the state pension, in an ex council mid terrace house in Donnycarney, pays more property tax than someone in a six bed detached house in Cavan with an acar of land.

In answer to your question. Everyone in Ireland should be willing to travel long commutes in order to feed their own family. Dublin or West of ireland you should be willing to travel. It's not unusual for tradesmen in rural Ireland to spend hours travelling daily to get to a building site. I would crawl till my fingers bled to get to a job if I had to.

I think social welfare a wonderful thing but it's not intended for someone not willing to travel a few miles to work. Its not intended to support her because she wants to be a stay at home mom.

If you read the OP again, this all kicked off because his wife said she wasn't available to work certain hours because she picked up the kids from school. See the part where it says that she "isn't available for work". This is why her dole will be cut off. Forget about her not wanting to travel. She pointed out to the social welfare officer that she isn't available for work. From her own admission, she isn't entitled to claim social welfare. She has been defrauding the state & every time she signed to collect her money she signed that she was available for work. This is called fraud.

Stheno

stauntj wrote: »

Thanks, yes I've recently upskilled and earning a little more with greater earnings down the line. It's a part payment she receives based on means which will reduce further in time regardless of finding paid work. Working family payment an option considering tx

Sounds to me you need to sit down and do the math to understand your options tbh instead of claiming a partial payment for all this grief

sallysue2

stauntj wrote: »

I'm not a regular boards user, came here for advice not a grilling, we couldnt afford to stay in oranmore and moved out further.

We have 1 car and actual commute time without a car to galway city works out at 2.5hrs per day min.

I didnt think I'd have to justify my position so much on here, I think I will keep my town anonymous all things considered with some of the responses on here.

Op you came here for opinions on your situation. I have answered your questions, everyone of them. You seem to be confused about jobseekers and what is expected of your wife. Jobseekers is not for someone who has chosen to be a stay at home parent. I say chosen because your wife is not willing to go working an hour away. Is there public transport that serve galway? For a town that's approximately 5,000 people and close to galway I would find it hard to believe there would not be a train or bus that would work.

Im sorry, but you really are coming across as you and your wife want the benefits of jobseekers without the responsibility of trying to find a job unless it fits in with everything else she has going on.

Away With The Fairies

stauntj wrote: »

I'm not a regular boards user, came here for advice not a grilling, we couldnt afford to stay in oranmore and moved out further.

We have 1 car and actual commute time without a car to galway city works out at 2.5hrs per day min.

I didnt think I'd have to justify my position so much on here, I think I will keep my town anonymous all things considered with some of the responses on here.

A very good suggestion of minding kids in your own home so. I'd be doing anything to get off the dole because those people aren't nice and push you for jobs you're not able for.

Titclamp

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

I had some sympathy at the beginning until I read that he's from oranmore. It's really not that far of a commute.

Try walking it.

Cork_Langer1

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

And thus, why people get pissed off about the social.

I have kids, I work shifts including nights. Can I quit and get other people to pay for everything?

You can do as you choose, if quiting betters your families well-being and finances, make that choice.

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

And again, why the system is abused and why tax payers are fed up.

You actually feel aggrieved that the people with jobs and paying tax that supports your bum life are trying to get you a job and off their backs.

How dare you, I didn't suggest the op lie or defraud, it's the get a job brigade who are aggrieved even if that crap job involves a long commute or a worse financial position than they're already in.

you or anyone doesn't pay for me or anyone else I've already stated.

sallysue2

Cork_Langer1 wrote: »

You can do as you choose, if quiting betters your families well-being and finances, make that choice.

.

Of course everyone has that choice, but if chose not to work, then you are not entitled to jobseekers.

Sleeper12

stauntj wrote:

I'm not a regular boards user, came here for advice not a grilling, we couldnt afford to stay in oranmore and moved out further.

There are plenty of ways to make money if you live close to 5000 people. Your wife isn't available for work. You clearly stated this in the opening post. If she isn't available for work then she isn't entitled to dole payments. Signing a statement saying that she's available for work when she isn't is social welfare fraud. This is why you are getting a rough ride here. We have tried to offer genuine advice on how she can earn money legally.

There are other options. Obviously her earning her own money would be best (I've given examples on how she can do this) but there are welfare options if you are low paid. We used to have family income supplement for people who didn't earn enough money. I'm sure this is gone and name changed but I'll put money on it that there is something like it nowadays. If you are low income family then there will be benefits available to you BUT collecting jobseakers allowance is the wrong way to go if she isn't available for work.