The Curious Case of Violet-Anne Wynne

limnam

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Sinn Fein ran their campaign based on the housing crisis and affordable housing. And here is their TD for Clare, who I’m sure mentioned housing numerous times on her own campaign trail but what she didn’t mention (and is the biggest sickener) is that she was denying a deserving family a chance of getting that house. A house that they would happily pay for all because she refused to pay and wouldn’t leave either till evicted by the courts.

She makes a mockery of what she campaigned for.

Yep what would another homeless family impact the already 10k+

We could have swept them up in the canal and tried paralyzing the kids.

Only FG/FF would be happy to see a family with 5 kids and an ill father on the streets.

While they put 25bn of interest payments on to our kids.

Quin_Dub

limnam wrote: »

As I said the headline was now she's on 90k+ she's refusing to pay the 12k.

That doesn't seem to be true.

So lets wait and see if she clears it.

Because with the state the country is in, this is whats of highest importance.

Do you honestly believe that if she'd gotten any other kind of job paying 90k (or any amount frankly) that didn't come with public media scrutiny that she'd be offering to pay back anything?

Whether she pays it back now it back after media pressure is utterly irrelevant - It's the fact that she lived in a house for 5 years and at no point during that time did she pay her way and it took a court appearance to get her out after she refused to pay a penny for 3 years.

As a Clare resident , I didn't even know the name of the SF candidate prior to walking into the polling station- There were no posters up for her , all the SF posters were Mary Lou McDonald and a rather weird "Proclamation" style poster about how a vote for SF was a vote for a United Ireland.

Everybody now knows who she is - I highly doubt she'd top the poll in the next election , whenever that might be.

limnam

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Do you honestly believe that if she'd gotten any other kind of job paying 90k (or any amount frankly) that didn't come with public media scrutiny that she'd be offering to pay back anything?

Whether she pays it back now it back after media pressure is utterly irrelevant - It's the fact that she lived in a house for 5 years and at no point during that time did she pay her way and it took a court appearance to get her out after she refused to pay a penny for 3 years.

As a Clare resident , I didn't even know the name of the SF candidate prior to walking into the polling station- There were no posters up for her , all the SF posters were Mary Lou McDonald and a rather weird "Proclamation" style poster about how a vote for SF was a vote for a United Ireland.

Everybody now knows who she is - I highly doubt she'd top the poll in the next election , whenever that might be.

I don;t know anything about the woman or the circumstances she found herself in.

All I know is she fell behind, she now will have the means to clear and will clear it.

When you see TD's swindling 100k's in expenses. Women dieing due to cervical cancer scandals etc.

Compared to the real problems in this country. A woman with 5 kids and sick husband falling into arrears is a non issue

limnam

limnam wrote: »

Yep what would another homeless family impact the already 10k+

We could have swept them up in the canal and tried paralyzing the kids.

Only FG/FF would be happy to see a family with 5 kids and an ill father on the streets.

While they put 25bn of interest payments on to our kids.

But she could afford the rent. She chose not to pay it! The rent would have been calculated on the families income.

How much exactly is this affordable housing figure that SF campaigned for? Welfare rates all over the country are exactly the same but rent isn’t. Should a landlord in Dublin be ordered to charge less than 63 euro a week (seeing as it wasn’t affordable) for a 3 bed semi if the tenant goes on welfare?

vriesmays

Dublin City Council charges less than €63 per week.

Quin_Dub

limnam wrote: »

I don;t know anything about the woman or the circumstances she found herself in.

All I know is she fell behind, she now will have the means to clear and will clear it.

When you see TD's swindling 100k's in expenses. Women dieing due to cervical cancer scandals etc.

Compared to the real problems in this country. A woman with 5 kids and sick husband falling into arrears is a non issue

She didn't "fall into arrears" nor did she have 5 kids when it started , she refused to pay ANYTHING for 3 years. and continued to have multiple Children throughout that period.

"Circumstances" don't make you refuse to pay even a single euro in rent for over three years.

She made a CHOICE to not pay her rent because she reckoned she could get away with it.

limnam

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

But she could afford the rent. She chose not to pay it! The rent would have been calculated on the families income.

How much exactly is this affordable housing figure that SF campaigned for? Welfare rates all over the country are exactly the same but rent isn’t. Should a landlord in Dublin be ordered to charge less than 63 euro a week (seeing as it wasn’t affordable) for a 3 bed semi if the tenant goes on welfare?

I don't know if she could afford it.

Not sure if you have kids or not. But I couldn't raise 5 kids on what the states provide nor will I try to assume it.

The good news is now she has the money to pay the arrears she's going to clear it.

Pitty FF/FG can't undo some of theirs.

vriesmays

vriesmays wrote: »

Dublin City Council charges less than €63 per week.

Which begs the question why she decided to move then?

She hasn’t got the money yet. Don’t think her salary and 31k travel allowance is paid upfront.

limnam

Quin_Dub wrote: »

She didn't "fall into arrears" nor did she have 5 kids when it started , she refused to pay ANYTHING for 3 years. and continued to have multiple Children throughout that period.

"Circumstances" don't make you refuse to pay even a single euro in rent for over three years.

She made a CHOICE to not pay her rent because she reckoned she could get away with it.

In that post.

TD's swindling thousands in expenses.

Women dieing due to cervical cancer scandal.

Yet you want to keep on about a woman with 5 kids and a sick husband falling behind.

Very strange.

ILoveYourVibes

blanch152 wrote: »

Our new TD from Clare has a strange history and stranger views it seems.

Firstly, it seems that she is a former anti-vaxxer.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/election-2020/they-dont-reflect-my-current-view-or-sinn-fein-policy-td-retracts-controversial-hpv-comments-38954563.html

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/election-2020/sinn-fein-td-made-attack-on-the-hpv-vaccine-38952559.html

"On Facebook, she compared the dangers posed by the "ingredients" in vaccinations to changing where you buy coffee.

The first-time TD also said the compulsory vaccination of children, which was introduced in Italy, was "medical tyranny""

Mad conspiracy theory stuff from her. She has now retracted it, but as in the case of the SF MEP who had similar mad views, will she refuse to confirm whether her own children have been vaccinated? This type of dangerous nonsense from any of our public representatives just shouldn't happen.

And then there is her history of paying (or rather not paying) rent.

https://www.thesun.ie/news/5096652/sinn-fein-violet-anne-wynne-charity-rent-arrears/

When I saw the headline, I was thinking that maybe she was refusing on principle to pay €3,000 a month to some vulture fund. Not at all. She owes €12k to a charity, yes a charity that subsequently went bust due to lack of funding. €63 a week for four years is what she refused to pay!!

This isn't someone without an education surviving on the breadline - she has a degree in psychology. Am I the only one to think that the people of Clare were mad to elect her a TD?

There is a view out there that Sinn Fein are the party of the entitlement class who want everything for nothing and someone else to pay for it. It seems that at least one of their TDs is trying to show the way that can be done.

And what did Eoin O'Broin do this morning when he was asked about it? Attacked the journalist and the newspaper. Shooting the messenger and whataboutery seem to be the standard defence of "new politics".

I am sure that there will be more to come out about this woman but Sinn Fein have shown a strange inability to be out in front of these stories in the last few days.

Well ....at least it proves she will tell landlords to go **** themselves. :pac:

dxhound2005

limnam wrote: »

In that post.

TD's swindling thousands in expenses.

Women dieing due to cervical cancer scandal.

Yet you want to keep on about a woman with 5 kids and a sick husband falling behind.

Very strange.

Lots of people complain about politicians of all parties. And if they are in government, they have sometimes been forced to resign. If SF got into power, I fear there are too many like you who just follow the party line slavishly. And are willing to excuse anything, even up to murder, if the perpetrators are Good Republicans.

limnam

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Lots of people complain about politicians of all parties. And if they are in government, they have sometimes been forced to resign. If SF got into power, I fear there are too many like you who just follow the party line slavishly. And are willing to excuse anything, even up to murder, if the perpetrators are Good Republicans.

Well FF voters forgave them telling people to go kill themselves while bankrupting the country causing suicides left right and center.

FG voters forgave simon harris from hiding cervical cancer results causing the deaths of many women.

I guess in general we're a forgiven nation.

Unless you're a woman with a sick husband with 5 kids falling behind on your rent

cj maxx

blanch152 wrote: »

He partner is named as John Montaine.

https://www.thesun.ie/news/3414950/judge-fines-epileptic-clare-man-36-who-lost-his-teeth-due-to-seizures-e100-for-possessing-cannabis-which-stopped-his-convulsions/

He wouldn't be the same John Montaine in this article who appears to believe in quackery cures, would he?

CBD ,cannibas, oil has been shown to benefit epilepsy and leg Tremors. THC, the stuff that gets you high I'm not so sure

Quin_Dub

limnam wrote: »

In that post.

TD's swindling thousands in expenses.

Women dieing due to cervical cancer scandal.

Yet you want to keep on about a woman with 5 kids and a sick husband falling behind.

Very strange.

That's whataboutery - Other people doing bad things doesn't make your bad things any less bad.

All of the things you mention above are bad and those involved should reap the impact.

But SF campaigned on being different , on being the ones able to resolve Healthcare and Housing.

Now , one of their newly elected TD's has been exposed as being the worst possible example of "entitled scrounger"and of having milked the state for thousands and refusing to pay anything towards the house she was given up to and including forcing a Charity to take her to court to get her out of the house she wouldn't pay for.

That's what's being discussed here.

dxhound2005

limnam wrote: »

Well FF voters forgave them telling people to go kill themselves while bankrupting the country causing suicides left right and center.

FG voters forgave simon harris from hiding cervical cancer results causing the deaths of many women.

I guess in general we're a forgiven nation.

Unless you're a woman with a sick husband with 5 kids falling behind on your rent

You pointed that out before. But why do you not include Sinn Fein politicians in your condemnations when they get in the news for bad things?

limnam

cjmc wrote: »

CBD ,cannibas, oil has been shown to benefit epilepsy and leg Tremors. THC, the stuff that gets you high I'm not so sure

Wonder what diagnosis Leo was trying to cure during his drug taking days.

Bill 2.0

Can't afford to pay a pittance in rent for years on end but can apparently afford to keep popping out sprogs.

limnam

dxhound2005 wrote: »

You pointed that out before. But why do you not include Sinn Fein politicians in your condemnations when they get in the news for bad things?

I'd love for people to be discussing SF's "bad" things.

Not some guy in a pub saying "up the ra" or equivalent.

This is the part i don't get.

SF been so weak with so many weak td's and a weak manifesto why there's morons going around talking about this nonsense.

Have at them, for _real_ problems. Not this tabloid rubbish.

limnam

Bill 2.0 wrote: »

Can't afford to pay a pittance in rent for years on end but can apparently afford to keep popping out sprogs.

like like like like like.

dxhound2005

limnam wrote: »

I'd love for people to be discussing SF's "bad" things.

Not some guy in a pub saying "up the ra" or equivalent.

This is the part i don't get.

SF been so weak with so many weak td's and a weak manifesto why there's morons going around talking about this nonsense.

Have at them, for _real_ problems. Not this tabloid rubbish.

The media have a go at them all. You can research how Phil Hogan was treated in the media. The fascist element of parties like Sinn Fein comes out when their supporters insist that there must be no bad news in the press about them.

limnam

limnam wrote: »

Wonder what diagnosis Leo was trying to cure during his drug taking days.

If you keep going with the “they did it too” stance then it’s fair to say that the newly elected SF TDs will also claim 100k+ expenses.

Just saying.

Quin_Dub

limnam wrote: »

I'd love for people to be discussing SF's "bad" things.

Not some guy in a pub saying "up the ra" or equivalent.

This is the part i don't get.

SF been so weak with so many weak td's and a weak manifesto why there's morons going around talking about this nonsense.

Have at them, for _real_ problems. Not this tabloid rubbish.

We are discussing "SF Bad Things" , but you are whatabouting to beat the band.

A SF TD got given a house by a charity and then proceeded to refuse to pay rent on that property for almost 6 years all while continuing to have more children and managing to pay all her other household bills.

The evidence given during the court case to evict her showed that the ONLY bill she wasn't paying was rent.

So why was Rent the only thing she couldn't pay?

Was it because it was the one she reckoned she could get away with the longest??

fiona_b

Bill 2.0 wrote: »

Can't afford to pay a pittance in rent for years on end but can apparently afford to keep popping out sprogs.

Literally this.

fiona_b

fiona_b wrote: »

Literally this.

I’m viewing on touch site. Does that flag keep changing?

dxhound2005

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

I’m viewing on touch site. Does that flag keep changing?

It will stop when it hits North Korea.

limnam

Quin_Dub wrote: »

We are discussing "SF Bad Things" , but you are whatabouting to beat the band.

A SF TD got given a house by a charity and then proceeded to refuse to pay rent on that property for almost 6 years all while continuing to have more children and managing to pay all her other household bills.

The evidence given during the court case to evict her showed that the ONLY bill she wasn't paying was rent.

So why was Rent the only thing she couldn't pay?

Was it because it was the one she reckoned she could get away with the longest??

As I said. I don't know.

But if I was in a situation of keeping power on food on the table etc I'd probably choose the same option.

Saying all that we don't know much about what went on in communications between the two on the lead up as it mentioned a "falling" out. e.g was there offers made and declined etc we don't know

What we know is now she can afford to clear the arrears she's doing it.

Will we see a repayment of falsely claimed expenses costing the state hundreds of thousands?

No we won't.

I know who'd Id rather support.

anewme

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Every week that she didn’t pay rent was a refusal to pay!

Ah stop....cant believe someone said she did not refuse to pay.

Is that post gone how?

I think she didnt pay from the get go..

Free houses for all.

Youd have to fear for the future of this Country.

cj maxx

limnam wrote: »

Wonder what diagnosis Leo was trying to cure during his drug taking days.

I suspect he's still smoking 'something' given he thinks FG are doing a good job

dxhound2005

anewme wrote: »

Ah stop....cant believe someone said she did not refuse to pay. I think she didnt psy from the get go..

Free houses for all.

Youd have to fear for the future of this Country.

Part of the housing problem is people who can afford to repay their loans, refusing to do so. And sitting there for years, safe in the knowledge that if the courts do shift them eventually, there will be anti eviction activists along to keep them in their house.

Those houses could be given to homeless families, and the defaulters could trade down.

frillyleaf

Where did she move to after being evicted from the house ? Would imagine it would be difficult to get a reference for new lease with history of not paying rent

anewme

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Part of the housing problem is people who can afford to repay their loans, refusing to do so. And sitting there for years, safe in the knowledge that if the courts do shift them eventually, there will be anti eviction activists along to keep them in their house.

Those houses could be given to homeless families, and the defaulters could trade down.

She was definitely taking the p.

63 per week to a housing charity and she didn't pay and she knew right well what she was at.

Youd have to wonder who voted for this woman.?

Quin_Dub

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Part of the housing problem is people who can afford to repay their loans, refusing to do so. And sitting there for years, safe in the knowledge that if the courts do shift them eventually, there will be anti eviction activists along to keep them in their house.

Those houses could be given to homeless families, and the defaulters could trade down.

Absolutely - A significant part of helping to resolve the housing crisis would be quicker evictions and repossessions.

When you have people not paying anything for years and years holding on to a house that could either be back into the social housing pool or back on the purchase market that is a huge problem.

It significantly reduces the available stock of houses for everyone and drives up the cost of the ones that are available.

I totally understand getting in to financial difficulties, but refusing to hand over even a fiver every now and then smacks of a tactical decision based on the fact that people know that it will take years to get you out of that house whereas your car/phone/tv etc. will be repossessed or service cut off after only a few weeks/months.

Pay SOMETHING to at least show that you are interested in making progress..

Bill 2.0

frillyleaf wrote: »

Where did she move to after being evicted from the house ? Would imagine it would be difficult to get a reference for new lease with history of not paying rent

Probably social housing. Don't need any references for that so any description of shyster can get it if they pass the means testing.

Bill 2.0

anewme wrote: »

Youd have to wonder who voted for this woman.?

People who want "change", apparently.

limnam

Bill 2.0 wrote: »

People who want "change", apparently.

Some nut cases voted for a man who is responsible for the deaths of young women.

Some for a woman who used an ex FF TD who had information on his cousin abusing the man he was knocking on the door of.

I guess when you weigh up the options there. They probably thought woman with 5 kids and an ill husband trying to survive was the better option.

@violetwynne

Has her twitter handle always been private?

@violetwynne

anewme

Bill 2.0 wrote: »

People who want "change", apparently.

Who haven't a clue who she is and just followed "vote SF'.

Its embarrassing.

limnam

anewme wrote: »

Who haven't a clue who she is and just followed "vote SF'.

Its embarrassing.

It's embarrassing that the current lot were so bad that people thought this was a better option.

anewme

limnam wrote: »

I guess when you weigh up the options there. They probably thought woman with 5 kids and an ill husband trying to survive was the better option.

She had 3 kids when she got the house. If she couldn't pay then (which she wasnt) why have two more kids and expect someone else to pay for them?

anewme

limnam wrote: »

It's embarrassing that the current lot were so bad that people thought this was a better option.

I said previously there were limited choices.

I didn't vote any of them.

It can get worse though, between the tiocfaudh ar la and up the Ra idiots and the calibre of this candidate, it can definitely get a lot worse. The quality of candidates is terrible.

Would people seriously want someone who refused to pay a charity representing them.?

Bill 2.0

anewme wrote: »

She had 3 kids when she got the house. If she couldn't pay then (which she wasnt) why have two more kids and expect someone else to pay for them?

Shure, why not?

It's not like there are any real consequences to making an absolute bollix of your life in this country. Those of us trying to live an honest life are the real ejjits.

The only thing keeping me here is my family and the obscene amount of money I earn doing a fairly trivial job. Once my parents pass on and I have a decent few bob squirreled away then I'm gone and the rest of ye can keep paying for this debacle.

It's only going to get worse.

limnam

anewme wrote: »

She had 3 kids when she got the house. If she couldn't pay then (which she wasnt) why have two more kids and expect someone else to pay for them?

I was saying that the options are not great

We have TD's who is responsible for deaths of young women.

We had FF td's using ex FF td to canvas on doors of people his cousin had sexually abused.

So if we look at a woman trying to survive with a sick husband compared to whats on offer

I'd definitely be a lot quicker to question the minds of a person who voted for the other two

limnam

Bill 2.0 wrote: »

Shure, why not?

It's not like there are any real consequences to making an absolute bollix of your life in this country. Those of us trying to live an honest life are the real ejjits.

The only thing keeping me here is my family and the obscene amount of money I earn doing a fairly trivial job. Once my parents pass on and I have a decent few bob squirreled away then I'm gone and the rest of ye can keep paying for this debacle.

It's only going to get worse.

Or making a bllx of a country

throwing an extra 26bn of debt on the next generation. grand job

Cause the deaths of young women. grand job

claim hundreds of thousands of tax payers money. grand job

If we make everyone pay for their mistakes and not just that of a young mother trying to survive with 5 kids we'll be in a better place all round

ThunbergsAreGo

Just like Maria Bailey acted as a lightening rod and put a renewed focus on issues in the insurance industry

This should do the same for social housing

I genuinely don't understand why she had two more kids with a "sick" husband and unable to afford rent. Many around the country are unable to contemplate more children as they feel they can't afford it

Bill 2.0

limnam wrote: »

Or making a bllx of a country

throwing an extra 26bn of debt on the next generation. grand job

Cause the deaths of young women. grand job

claim hundreds of thousands of tax payers money. grand job

If we make everyone pay for their mistakes and not just that of a young mother trying to survive with 5 kids we'll be in a better place all round

3rd ranked country on the HDI. Won't stay that way for long with the likes of this one getting elected mind you.

You should really stop posting her sob story. No one here cares about it. That sort of stuff is for bringing up in court as an excuse for why you defrauded a charity of thousands of euro.

anewme

limnam wrote: »

I was saying that the options are not great

We have TD's who is responsible for deaths of young women.

We had FF td's using ex FF td to canvas on doors of people his cousin had sexually abused.

So if we look at a woman trying to survive with a sick husband compared to whats on offer

I'd definitely be a lot quicker to question the minds of a person who voted for the other two

The TD's did not murder anyone, or abuse them.

This woman milked the system. Plenty of families are struck by illness and keep a roof over their head. It's called personal responsibility and this woman had none. If her husband was ill and they couldn't pay, why have two more children. ? Its freeloading on those who pay.

limnam

anewme wrote: »

The TD's did not murder anyone, or abuse them.

This woman milked the system. Plenty of families are struck by illness and keep a roof over their head. It's called personal responsibility and this woman had none. If her husband was ill and they couldn't pay, why have two more children. ? Its freeloading on those who pay.

The held back information that prevented the abuser been arrested.

Which meant he could go one to abuse more.

If yo're ok with that. Grand job

limnam

anewme wrote: »

Would people seriously want someone who refused to pay a charity representing them.?

I imagine most people voting for her had no idea about the payments.

It looks like a lot of SF votes was to get SF to have the likes of EOB/PD etc into government.

There's plenty of FG/FF gob****es that get in because they run under the banner of the party.

Now that it's out I don't think people seem to give a fck. At least not people who voted SF. They see problems that they think SF can fix and they want to give them a lash off it.

some guy in a pub shouting up the ra or someone who's got in trouble with arrears is not really going to have much of an impact on that IMO.

As I've said a number of times

with so many weak td's a weak manifesto people should be able to pick this apart without going on like a moron shouting about some guy in a pub.

limnam

limnam wrote: »

It's embarrassing that the current lot were so bad that people thought this was a better option.

What’s really embarrassing is that the people who voted for them didn’t do their own research.