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The Curious Case of Violet-Anne Wynne

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭vriesmays


    blanch152 wrote: »
    She owes €12k to a charity, yes a charity that subsequently went bust due to lack of funding. €63 a week for four years is what she refused to pay!!
    That's more like €13k.


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,534 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Nijmegen wrote: »
    Take what I'm about to say with a pinch of salt, as it comes from local folks familiar with the situation (but as a result also potentially biased, I dunno). But basically neither she nor her partner have worked a day in Clare, though she has volunteered in various things. So inferring from that in terms of what they're entitled to they are basically on the full welfare ride. 5 kids, €700 per month. €203 per week each in personal welfare. €180 per week in supplementary for the kids and €201 in supplementary personal rate, potentially x2. Dunno how you price the rent when they weren't paying it... Medical benefits and all the rest. Fuel allowance €24.50 per week.

    I'd say these guys are pulling in about €50k per year in welfare, so actually moving to a €96k per year gross salary (€59k net or so, maybe less with pension levy etc in public service) will probably cost them about €31k in benefits.
    Chucken wrote: »
    I don't know where you got those figures but they're not true.

    Let us do a fact-check on this.

    We know that she has a partner and five kids, we know that the partner suffers from epilepsy and can't work. This is all public information. From that we can calculate her likely income:

    https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/6aec4d-current-rates-of-payment-for-social-welfare-payments-sw19/

    Assume that she is actively seeking work (and looking for election must qualify as such), then she is on €203 per week.

    Presumably her partner, because he can't work with his illness is on disability benefit of €203 per week.

    For each of the kids (assume they are under 12) they would get €36, which adds up to €180. That gives a total of €586 per week.

    She would qualify for the carer's allowance as he is on disability benefit, but only at the half-rate, meaning that she would get another €109.50. Adding it all up would give here a weekly package of €695.50 per week, which translates into €36,291.19.

    What else does she get from the State?

    €960 a month in child benefit, €686 a year in Fuel Allowance.

    Given that he would be on the disability, they would qualify for the household benefits package which would be worth around €840 a year.

    https://www.gov.ie/en/service/e87d27-household-benefits-package/

    Adding that up so far gives us €49,337.19. Oh, we have forgotten something.

    Yes, of course, rent allowance or HAP, depending on which she qualifies for.
    Then there is her free television licence and the medical card.

    Wow, just wow.

    Over 50k in benefits from the State plus medical card, plus other ancillaries. The poster you queried was actually correct. She might be worse off by becoming a TD.

    Now, if you disagree with my calculations, let's see them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,534 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Boggles wrote: »
    I imagine the fine people of Clare couldn't give 2 fúcks what some random Fine Gael party member says about them anonymously on the internet.

    :)



    What FG party member?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,697 ✭✭✭zimmermania


    Ahh the people of Clare made a fine choice electing such a freeloader.

    I suppose it is too much to expect that LADY LOU would ask ther to pay the money that she cheated taxpayers out of back.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,926 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    This woman's lifestyle reminds me of dear ole Margaret Cash. Difference is, Cash played the system with no education that I know of, whereas Violet played the system with a University Education. It seems to be easy to do if morals are low on your list.

    Anyway, SF needs to accept that now that they got a great vote, they are in the spotlight as never before, and the reality is that every move they make will be scrutinised. I don't think many constituencies know who they actually voted for apart from having SF on the ticket. Much woodwork to be uncovered there over time I'd say.

    Now I am sure many SF supporters will come back and say, we won, you lost. Just like the Brexiters. To my mind it's a fair comparison.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    I wonder if SF will force her to pay back the charity.


  • Registered Users Posts: 39,960 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    blanch152 wrote: »
    What FG party member?

    modern-hanging-36-mirror-o.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 39,960 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Calhoun wrote: »
    I wonder if SF will force her to pay back the charity.

    She can't. It doesn't exist anymore.

    She has offered to pay it to another charity, which she should do.


  • Registered Users Posts: 39,960 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Anyway, SF needs to accept that now that they got a great vote, they are in the spotlight as never before,

    I hadn't heard of SF until the recent election.

    Never remember them being in the spot light at all.

    :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Great to see blanch back on boards you went missing for a few days after ye were wooped!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 39,960 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Presumably her partner, because he can't work with his illness is on disability benefit of €203 per week.

    How do you know he can't work, this was a few years ago right?

    How do you know he is not back to work after his pretty serious illness?


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Let us do a fact-check on this.

    We know that she has a partner and five kids, we know that the partner suffers from epilepsy and can't work. This is all public information. From that we can calculate her likely income:

    https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/6aec4d-current-rates-of-payment-for-social-welfare-payments-sw19/

    Assume that she is actively seeking work (and looking for election must qualify as such), then she is on €203 per week.

    Presumably her partner, because he can't work with his illness is on disability benefit of €203 per week.

    For each of the kids (assume they are under 12) they would get €36, which adds up to €180. That gives a total of €586 per week.

    She would qualify for the carer's allowance as he is on disability benefit, but only at the half-rate, meaning that she would get another €109.50. Adding it all up would give here a weekly package of €695.50 per week, which translates into €36,291.19.

    What else does she get from the State?

    €960 a month in child benefit, €686 a year in Fuel Allowance.

    Given that he would be on the disability, they would qualify for the household benefits package which would be worth around €840 a year.

    https://www.gov.ie/en/service/e87d27-household-benefits-package/

    Adding that up so far gives us €49,337.19. Oh, we have forgotten something.

    Yes, of course, rent allowance or HAP, depending on which she qualifies for.
    Then there is her free television licence and the medical card.

    Wow, just wow.

    Over 50k in benefits from the State plus medical card, plus other ancillaries. The poster you queried was actually correct. She might be worse off by becoming a TD.

    Now, if you disagree with my calculations, let's see them.

    ''€180 per week in supplementary for the kids and €201 in supplementary personal rate, potentially x2'' <<No idea what this means.

    Personal rate is 203. Adult dependant is €134.70.

    You cannot get carers allowance if you're on jobseekers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,015 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Chucken wrote: »
    ''€180 per week in supplementary for the kids and €201 in supplementary personal rate, potentially x2'' <<No idea what this means.

    Personal rate is 203. Adult dependant is €134.70.

    You cannot get carers allowance if you're on jobseekers.

    Funny thing is, either way these are the criteria as set out by FF/FG. Always amuses me when staunch FG supporters use people availing of things their own party signed off on to ridicule other parties SF/SD/PBP etc. had nothing to do with it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,281 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    No doubt the posters most outraged at Marie Bailey's attempted insurance fraud are just as exercised at the amount this serial doler will be shaking down the State for over her life.

    Jesus, 5 kids, no doubt she'll prepare them well for a lifetime with their paws out on the SW gravy-train.


  • Registered Users Posts: 39,960 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    No doubt the posters most outraged at Marie Bailey's attempted insurance fraud are just as exercised at the amount this serial doler will be shaking down the State for over her life.

    Hmmmmm.

    Maria Bailey was part of a governance where the welfare she was entitled to was legally signed off on by her government.

    Drinking 2 bottles of wine on a swing, falling off and claiming 1000s in damages when you are not actually damaged is a crime.

    One was legal, one was a crime.

    Also wasn't the bould Maria claiming phantom expenses?

    I don't know why you thought it was a good idea to bring that cretin up in this thread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,015 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    No doubt the posters most outraged at Marie Bailey's attempted insurance fraud are just as exercised at the amount this serial doler will be shaking down the State for over her life.

    Jesus, 5 kids, no doubt she'll prepare them well for a lifetime with their paws out on the SW gravy-train.

    Depends. Did ML make a big PR stink about people's rent arrears and is ML going to do as thorough a job as LV....eventually and then say 'nothing to see here'...and then some time later remove her? :)
    See big difference is I think she's shameful having those arrears, whereas many a folk couldn't bring themselves to criticise MB.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Our new TD from Clare has a strange history and stranger views it seems.

    Firstly, it seems that she is a former anti-vaxxer.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/election-2020/they-dont-reflect-my-current-view-or-sinn-fein-policy-td-retracts-controversial-hpv-comments-38954563.html

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/election-2020/sinn-fein-td-made-attack-on-the-hpv-vaccine-38952559.html

    "On Facebook, she compared the dangers posed by the "ingredients" in vaccinations to changing where you buy coffee.

    The first-time TD also said the compulsory vaccination of children, which was introduced in Italy, was "medical tyranny""

    Mad conspiracy theory stuff from her. She has now retracted it, but as in the case of the SF MEP who had similar mad views, will she refuse to confirm whether her own children have been vaccinated? This type of dangerous nonsense from any of our public representatives just shouldn't happen.

    And then there is her history of paying (or rather not paying) rent.

    https://www.thesun.ie/news/5096652/sinn-fein-violet-anne-wynne-charity-rent-arrears/

    When I saw the headline, I was thinking that maybe she was refusing on principle to pay €3,000 a month to some vulture fund. Not at all. She owes €12k to a charity, yes a charity that subsequently went bust due to lack of funding. €63 a week for four years is what she refused to pay!!

    This isn't someone without an education surviving on the breadline - she has a degree in psychology. Am I the only one to think that the people of Clare were mad to elect her a TD?

    There is a view out there that Sinn Fein are the party of the entitlement class who want everything for nothing and someone else to pay for it. It seems that at least one of their TDs is trying to show the way that can be done.

    And what did Eoin O'Broin do this morning when he was asked about it? Attacked the journalist and the newspaper. Shooting the messenger and whataboutery seem to be the standard defence of "new politics".

    I am sure that there will be more to come out about this woman but Sinn Fein have shown a strange inability to be out in front of these stories in the last few days.

    As much as it sickens me to quote the sun.....

    In a statement today, Ms Wynne said: "I am more than willing to pay back the arrears. Doing so is made more complicated as the Rural Resettlement Ireland is no longer in existence.

    "But if paying back the RRI isn't possible, I will instead to pay the money back to a charity such as a mental health charity as those services are under-funded in the region.
    https://www.thesun.ie/news/5098711/violet-anne-wynne-willing-pay-charity-rent-arrears-sinn-fein/

    Is that ok for you?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,281 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    Boggles wrote: »

    I don't know why you thought it was a good idea to bring that cretin up in this thread.

    To expose the hypocrisy of the Shinnerbots.

    Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 29,045 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    there will be all sorts of desperate nonsense dragged up to smeer our party, it will not work, this is not the uk.
    a couple of idiots aren't going to change the reality that people want change and have had enough of the big 2 not delivering.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



  • Registered Users Posts: 39,960 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    To expose the hypocrisy of the Shinnerbots.

    Thanks

    Those Shinnerbots TBF have done an outstanding job.

    :D


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  • Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Chucken wrote: »
    As much as it sickens me to quote the sun.....

    In a statement today, Ms Wynne said: "I am more than willing to pay back the arrears. Doing so is made more complicated as the Rural Resettlement Ireland is no longer in existence.

    "But if paying back the RRI isn't possible, I will instead to pay the money back to a charity such as a mental health charity as those services are under-funded in the region.
    https://www.thesun.ie/news/5098711/violet-anne-wynne-willing-pay-charity-rent-arrears-sinn-fein/

    Is that ok for you?

    No, that's not OK.
    Would she may it back if she hadn't been elected? Would she ****!
    Too little too late.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,532 ✭✭✭Field east


    washman3 wrote: »
    Your username gives the game away..;)
    Check out Liam Lawlor and Ivor Callely and even Bertie's old running mate Cyprian Brady who was once elected with a few hundred votes but on the back of Bertie's massive surplus (thanks to the Drumcondra Mafia)
    Doubt if there's a single party without a few skeletons.....
    And BTW i did not vote SF last week but definately will if there's another needless G.E. in a few weeks.
    It’s hilarious how many posters on this and other threads said that’ BTW I did not vote for SF’. And defending it at the same time. They never declare who they voted for.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,015 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    To expose the hypocrisy of the Shinnerbots.

    Thanks

    Is a shinnerbot anyone who got great mileage out of MB due to the case and it's handling by LV and has issue with VAW?
    Also hard stretch to find comparisons. They're both women in politics? Johnny Flash will be on to you, (men, always men).
    Field east wrote: »
    It’s hilarious how many posters on this and other threads said that’ BTW I did not vote for SF’. And defending it at the same time. They never declare who they voted for.

    That's because if you criticise FG it's assumed you are a card carrying 'up the 'ra' shinner. Nobody seems to have voted FF or is even accused of it, but that's because FF are alright as far as FG are concerned ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,926 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    vriesmays wrote: »
    If he'd kept his gob shut he might have been a Minister and done some service to that dying town.

    I thanked your post, for the sentiment you expressed, but I don't agree that someone like him should be in power either.

    It's all just under the surface and will erupt at some point. I think a huge lid is being kept on all this RA stuff.


  • Registered Users Posts: 860 ✭✭✭UDAWINNER


    Field east wrote: »
    It’s hilarious how many posters on this and other threads said that’ BTW I did not vote for SF’. And defending it at the same time. They never declare who they voted for.
    even better are those who say they are thinking about voting SF and then with every post have a go at said party. Walter mitty voters:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,926 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    ABSF here, is that OK for the monitors?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,015 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    I'd like SF in power, but if they change housing policy I wouldn't.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    Boggles wrote: »
    She can't. It doesn't exist anymore.

    She has offered to pay it to another charity, which she should do.

    She should indeed or others will make hay with it outstanding.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    Bowie wrote: »
    Depends. Did ML make a big PR stink about people's rent arrears and is ML going to do as thorough a job as LV....eventually and then say 'nothing to see here'...and then some time later remove her? :)
    See big difference is I think she's shameful having those arrears, whereas many a folk couldn't bring themselves to criticise MB.

    Well a distinction here is that she didn't pay a charity. Anyone stealing from charity really is scummy, I'd be more forgiving if it was a local council.

    She just looks like another champagne socialist getting her fill at the trough.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    Bowie wrote: »
    Depends. Did ML make a big PR stink about people's rent arrears and is ML going to do as thorough a job as LV....eventually and then say 'nothing to see here'...and then some time later remove her? :)
    See big difference is I think she's shameful having those arrears, whereas many a folk couldn't bring themselves to criticise MB.

    Well a distinction here is that she didn't pay a charity. Anyone stealing from charity really is scummy, I'd be more forgiving if it was a local council.

    She just looks like another champagne socialist getting her fill at the trough.


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