Tv licence court summons

mea_k

It has happened. I got summons to appear in court. What a load of b.... How is this even legal to ask to pay for something I don't use?
Shouldn't that be included in price you pay for your device?
Madness. Its 160e.
Not only now its not only tv licence but a bloody laptop. Like wtf?

elperello

Do you have a TV in your house?

Upforthematch

mea_k wrote: »

It has happened. I got summons to appear in court. What a load of b.... How is this even legal to ask to pay for something I don't use?
Shouldn't that be included in price you pay for your device?
Madness. Its 160e.
Not only now its not only tv licence but a bloody laptop. Like wtf?

Did you get a summons for watching tv on your laptop or for having an unlicensed tv?

mea_k

I have tv and laptop I just don't understand why people must pay for TV or laptop that they allready have paid for?

Car99

mea_k wrote: »

It has happened. I got summons to appear in court. What a load of b.... How is this even legal to ask to pay for something I don't use?
Shouldn't that be included in price you pay for your device?
Madness. Its 160e.
Not only now its not only tv licence but a bloody laptop. Like wtf?

If you don't use the service dont pay for it. Go to court.

lucalux

You don't need a tv license for a laptop

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Were you watching TV or not? Did the following apply?

Connecting a SKY/Virgin Media/Saorview or any type of Digital TV Receiver to your monitor
Viewing any TV Programmes broadcast for general reception over broadband (e.g. Eir TV/Vodafone TV) on your monitor requires a TV Licence.

brianregan09

But the TV license pays for RTE , that's always been the father's argument when he begrudgingly pays it , never watches RTE but pays monthly for sky

pinkyeye

Car99 wrote: »

If you don't use the service dont pay for it. Go to court.

Bad advice, will always end up paying more if you go to court and you still have to buy the licence anyway.

mea_k

Just to mention, both devices can be seen from back of my property.... So go figure. Buy privacy film guys

Arrival

It needs to be a subscription service where only paying customers get access to the channels and services. Very few young people, and some older people, watch any live TV at all these days, let alone the **** heap RTE is, so it's seriously unfair to strong arm them into paying for something they not only don't use but have no interest in using.

matchthis

Thought it was needed if you had a device capable of using the service. Regardless if you use it or not. Should be done away with IMO. Broadcasting has changed a lot since it was brought in.

Gretas Gonna Get Ya!

mea_k wrote: »

It has happened. I got summons to appear in court. What a load of b.... How is this even legal to ask to pay for something I don't use?
Shouldn't that be included in price you pay for your device?
Madness. Its 160e.
Not only now its not only tv licence but a bloody laptop. Like wtf?

The lads in prison love their TV's...

I've heard TV licence dodgers get worse treatment than pedos in the slammer!

Don't drop the soap! :pac:

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

mea_k wrote: »

I have tv and laptop I just don't understand why people must pay for TV or laptop that they allready have paid for?

And why pay Motor Tax on a car I have already paid for?

Better Than Christ

How did you get caught? When an inspector calls to the door, a simple "no, I don't have a television" usually suffices. Followed by "no, you can't enter my home, goodbye" if necessary.

Bruthal

Natalie Plump Spark wrote: »

And why pay Motor Tax on a car I have already paid for?

If you dont use the car on the roads, you dont need to pay it.

elperello

mea_k wrote: »

I have tv and laptop I just don't understand why people must pay for TV or laptop that they allready have paid for?

Buy a licence and appear in court to answer the summons.
Consult a solicitor if you like but you can just go on your own and apologise for not having the licence and say you now have one.

If you have a TV you need a licence.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Bruthal wrote: »

If you dont use the car on the roads, you dont need to pay it.

I agree, once you notify them, but the OP did not say they never watch anything on TV or the Laptop just questioned the charging when you have already paid for the appliance.

Flaccus

New broadcasting laws not in yet so for now you only need a license if you have a tv or other device capable of receiving a signal via ariel, satellite or cable. Does not matter if its broken or not used. So computers, phones, tablets are generally exempt. If you refuse to pay you are fined. If you continue to refuse, not pay the fine etc.. you get locked up.


https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/consumer_affairs/media/tv_licences.html#l1f4da

This will change in 5 years to a device independent broadcasting fee though. So if you have broadband or mobile data you will have to pay.

https://www.dccae.gov.ie/en-ie/news-and-media/press-releases/Pages/Minister-Bruton-Publishes-Broadcasting-Bill.aspx

Arrival

Flaccus wrote: »

New broadcasting laws not in yet so for now you only need a license if you have a tv or other device capable of receiving a signal via ariel, satellite or cable. Does not matter if its broken or not used. So computers, phones, tablets are generally exempt. If you refuse to pay you are fined. If you continue to refuse, not pay the fine etc.. you get locked up.


https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/consumer_affairs/media/tv_licences.html#l1f4da

This will change in 5 years to a device independent broadcasting fee though. So if you have broadband or mobile data you will have to pay.

https://www.dccae.gov.ie/en-ie/news-and-media/press-releases/Pages/Minister-Bruton-Publishes-Broadcasting-Bill.aspx

Absolute scumbags forcing that

Bruthal

Natalie Plump Spark wrote: »

I agree, once you notify them, but the OP did not say they never watch anything on TV or the Laptop just questioned the charging when you have already paid for the appliance.

Well it doesnt matter if you never watch anything.

People get too hung up on the tv, having a tuner, "doesnt matter if tuner is not usable in ireland" etc etc.

The fact is, they want all to pay this charge. In recent times this has been achieved by ensuring the definition of a tv set would include devices which on their own can not tune our broadcasts.

It will basically be another property charge.

Smiles35

Here's a wallpaper for your laptop op. https://www.elsetge.cat/myimg/f/126-1261043_logo-rte-ireland-logo.jpg

Bruthal

Flaccus wrote: »

New broadcasting laws not in yet so for now you only need a license if you have a tv or other device capable of receiving a signal via ariel, satellite or cable. Does not matter if its broken or not used. So computers, phones, tablets are generally exempt. If you refuse to pay you are fined. If you continue to refuse, not pay the fine etc.. you get locked up.


https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/consumer_affairs/media/tv_licences.html#l1f4da

This will change in 5 years to a device independent broadcasting fee though. So if you have broadband or mobile data you will have to pay.

https://www.dccae.gov.ie/en-ie/news-and-media/press-releases/Pages/Minister-Bruton-Publishes-Broadcasting-Bill.aspx

I suggested this years ago, eventually they would change the tv licence name to have all properties in the net.

gmisk

How many warnings etc did you get?
You should just buy one...who needs the stress

mea_k

Just to answer few questions and few points on here.

I Baught licence today, but I wouldn't have if I wouldn't have a child. I'd rather go for free B&B. And then paid return trip home.

I questioned why is there such charge and why can't that be subscribtion service - RTE. I don't watch it and don't have reason to.

I just came on here to tell - who ever needs to hear it that they are clamping down big time. And maybe keep blinds down or get privacy film.

Also I was not home when inspector had called. However in some magical way - fairy taht he was he was able to tell that there was one in my kitchen. Witch could have been seen only from rear...

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Bruthal wrote: »

Well it doesnt matter if you never watch anything.

People get too hung up on the tv, having a tuner, "doesnt matter if tuner is not usable in ireland" etc etc.

The fact is, they want all to pay this charge. In recent times this has been achieved by ensuring the definition of a tv set would include devices which on their own can not tune our broadcasts.

It will basically be another property charge.

Look, I'm not arguing with you. Nor did I say I was in favour of the licence. I simply pointed out the absurdity of the OP saying they had paid for the TV, so why pay a licence as well and gave the comparison of Motor Tax. So, direct your debate elsewhere because I didn't say anything pro or con to your angle on it.

Bruthal

Natalie Plump Spark wrote: »

So, direct your debate elsewhere because I didn't say anything pro or con to your angle on it.

I was posting an opinion about the course of the licencing setup. Nothing to do with any debate.

Big Gerry

Your more likely to go to prision in Ireland for not having a TV licence than you are for selling drugs.

elperello

Big Gerry wrote: »

Your more likely to go to prision in Ireland for not having a TV licence than you are for selling drugs.

You won't go to prison for not having a TV licence.

You may go to prison for not paying a fine.

Feisar

As a matter of interest has anyone raised the issue at the doorstep with canvassers?

Always Tired

When I was i college living in a block of flats that was all students, someone let the bloody TV license inspector in the main door and he started going round to every flat, but he was preceded by a student from the first floor who went around knocking on doors warning everyone.

My flatmate and 3 of his friends were playing playstation on the telly in the sitting room when we got word. They quickly unhooked the playstation unplugged the telly and put it into a bedroom closet.

The inspector knocked and was told we had no telly. He asked could he have a look. Grand. He came in and saw in the corner a TV stand, with a big TV shaped dustprint on the top of it where the telly had just been, a playstation on the floor, which was still powered on, with 2 controllers trailing out towards the couch.

He looked at my flatmate, nodded and said, 'Right, lads.' And headed off.

elperello

Feisar wrote: »

As a matter of interest has anyone raised the issue at the doorstep with canvassers?

Good point.

Could be worthwhile with the proposed Broadcasting Commission.

Having said that I expect most canvassers won't be too well versed on it.

artanevilla

Why did you pay for a TV if you don't use it?

Wibbs

Big Gerry wrote: »

Your more likely to go to prision in Ireland for not having a TV licence than you are for selling drugs.

Or as we have seen recently if you take part in an acid attack on a young man nearly blinding him and leaving mental and physical scars for life you get off on a a caution. Fcuking unreal.

Flaccus wrote: »

New broadcasting laws not in yet so for now you only need a license if you have a tv or other device capable of receiving a signal via ariel, satellite or cable. Does not matter if its broken or not used. So computers, phones, tablets are generally exempt. If you refuse to pay you are fined. If you continue to refuse, not pay the fine etc.. you get locked up.


https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/consumer_affairs/media/tv_licences.html#l1f4da

This will change in 5 years to a device independent broadcasting fee though. So if you have broadband or mobile data you will have to pay.

https://www.dccae.gov.ie/en-ie/news-and-media/press-releases/Pages/Minister-Bruton-Publishes-Broadcasting-Bill.aspx

Well those utter gouging cunts can fuck right off. I don't own a TV and I never and I mean never watch RTE online and never will. Never mind that their RTE player is apparently pure muck by all accounts, and has ads I gather? No doubt the player was provided through a backhander to a friend of a friend of some gouging gombeen prick in Montrose or what passes for our government.

This "broadcasting fee" is just another gouge tax by our government to keep that pile of ****e RTE afloat and they can eff off, because I will not pay it. If the people of this nation had any stones they'd do similar as happened with the water charges - which would have been of significantly more value to the nation, if Irish water was run properly. And pigs might fly - and en masse simply not pay.

Atlantic Dawn

It's crooked when RTE have ads, sponsorship for their shows and additionally take out the collection basket run premium rate numbers to generate cash.

anewme

mea_k wrote: »

Just to answer few questions and few points on here.

I Baught licence today, but I wouldn't have if I wouldn't have a child. I'd rather go for free B&B. And then paid return trip home.

I questioned why is there such charge and why can't that be subscribtion service - RTE. I don't watch it and don't have reason to.

I just came on here to tell - who ever needs to hear it that they are clamping down big time. And maybe keep blinds down or get privacy film.

Also I was not home when inspector had called. However in some magical way - fairy taht he was he was able to tell that there was one in my kitchen. Witch could have been seen only from rear...

If you got a summons, then you should have opened the door to him and given your name.

They are very sly about this.

I got a letter saying I was in possession of an unlicensed TV or whatever way its worded.

I phoned and they insisted the woman who opened the door said she was me according to their Inspector.

Conveniently enough, they called on a Saturday as most people could prove they were at work during the week.

I produced my flight boarding card, showing I was in the air when he was supposedly knocking at the door talking to me. Funny enough, I live alone and the alarm did not ring off.

Well, they backed off pretty promptly.

OP, I'd do a SAR request and see what comes up.

Wibbs

elperello wrote: »

Having said that I expect most canvassers won't be too well versed on it.

Most canvassers aren't too well versed on anything I have found.

Lily_Aldrin7

I don’t ever watch tv, I don’t have cable, satellite etc but I I watch Netflix and Prime. I pay 13.33 every month and I’m just so used to it at this point, it doesn’t upset me. It’s just one of those things that you have to do just because. It won’t change and you have to do it, this is the law. Just pay for it and save yourself the headaches for the future.

elperello

artanevilla wrote: »

Why did you pay for a TV if you don't use it?

It doesn't matter if you never use the TV.
If it is in your house you must pay.

Wibbs

Lily_Aldrin7 wrote: »

It won’t change and you have to do it, this is the law. Just pay for it and save yourself the headaches for the future.

Bollocks. It's a stupid law and stupid tax and it is the duty of every citizen to resist such laws. And we've done it before. Back in the 80's the government wanted to bring in a fishing licence for trout and anglers said nope, refused to pay it, to the degree that a few inspectors were threatened and they quietly dropped it after two years of no shows. The water charges got dropped too. And this RTE gravy train has gone on long enough and is of far less value to this nation than the above two, so yes we should tell them to fcuk off and mean it. If it were a subscription charge well then OK, but why the hell should anyone pay for a service that they do not use? It's insanity. To take one of the examples above that would be like you having to pay for a fishing licence when you have never gone nor intend to go fishing.

pgj2015

what if you have electric gates, do they leave you alone then or how can they get anywhere near your house to see if you have a tv or not?

pdiddy

Feisar wrote: »

As a matter of interest has anyone raised the issue at the doorstep with canvassers?

Afraid to answer the door to canvassers in case its the tv license man

ChikiChiki

mea_k wrote: »

It has happened. I got summons to appear in court. What a load of b.... How is this even legal to ask to pay for something I don't use?
Shouldn't that be included in price you pay for your device?
Madness. Its 160e.
Not only now its not only tv licence but a bloody laptop. Like wtf?

Knowing our ****ed up legal system your probably going to jail.

No money to be made out of you. If you had 100+ convictions you might get away.

Better Than Christ

elperello wrote: »

If it is in your house you must pay.

Not if you tell them you don't have one. I don't understand how anyone can get caught when all you have to do is tell a very small lie.

HBC08

Better Than Christ wrote: »

How did you get caught? When an inspector calls to the door, a simple "no, I don't have a television" usually suffices. Followed by "no, you can't enter my home, goodbye" if necessary.

Have you done this many times in the past or was it more of a happened in your head kind of situation?

Better Than Christ

HBC08 wrote: »

Have you done this many times in the past or was it more of a happened in your head kind of situation?

I've never had to. I did fill out a 'legal notice' that they sent me, stating that I don't have a television.

Wibbs

Better Than Christ wrote: »

Not if you tell them you don't have one. I don't understand how anyone can get caught when all you have to do is tell a very small lie.

Well there is that. I actually don't have a telly. Got rid a few years ago and I got a letter about it and I rang and the lass on the other end was helpful, sent out a I Don't Have A TV declaration form for me to sign, which I did. Job done. I get the declaration form for me to sign every year. No problem. Never had an inspector to the door. Then again no worries if I did, cos I don't have a telly.

dxhound2005

The BBC are getting their annual licence fee increase. The last time RTE got an increase was a €2 increase in 2008.

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-51363612

artanevilla

elperello wrote: »

It doesn't matter if you never use the TV.
If it is in your house you must pay.

Yes I know. But why would you buy something you know you are not going to use? Seems a bigger waste of money to me than a TV licence.

dxhound2005

Lime And Chilli wrote: »

Need some advice boys. Started renting a room in a house recently. It seems for 2018 a tv licence was paid for. I've found letters in the house telling us we 'urgently' need to renew the licence.

It seems we went all of 2019 without a licence. Will they eventually just send take us to court or do they have prove we have the tv again? How does this work?

The licence is in the landlord's name and the other lads don't seem too concerned about paying.

Can we just chance not paying?

You would be better off asking in the TV Licence thread.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055794011

Phoebas

mea_k wrote: »

I just came on here to tell - who ever needs to hear it that they are clamping down big time. And maybe keep blinds down or get privacy film.

Alternatively - and I know this might sound a little mad - buy a TV licence.