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Greta Thunberg (Continued...)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Greta/her handlers are pretty bothered that Chinese bat flu is stealing the limelight from catastrophic climate Armageddon. Not the scariest show own the road anymore.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/03/climate-change-coronavirus-pick-evil-protesters-200306195937709.html

    Gretas imagined 'end of civilisation' hysterics have been eclipsed by the very real threat of a global pandemic.

    She's yesterday's news. Hopefully she now will go back to school and finish her education.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    gozunda wrote: »
    Gretas imagined 'end of civilisation' hysterics have been eclipsed by the very real threat of a global pandemic.

    She's yesterday's news. Hopefully she now will go back to school and finish her education.

    Yes. She’s yesterday’s news - and last week’s, and last month’s, and looks like continuing to make news for some time to come.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    alastair wrote: »
    Yes. She’s yesterday’s news - and last week’s, and last month’s, and looks like continuing to make news for some time to come.

    And yet we've greta supporters on here who claim they're not aware of the greta news stories - so hows that work?

    Better off forgetting the celebrity circus and fandom and letting the kid get on with her education.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭KyussB


    Don't worry guys, the entire issue of human generated climate change is now yesterdays news, thanks to Covid-19.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,004 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    gozunda wrote: »
    Gretas imagined 'end of civilisation' hysterics have been eclipsed by the very real threat of a global pandemic.

    She's yesterday's news. Hopefully she now will go back to school and finish her education.

    Perhaps a little bit unfair.

    Ms Thunberg is now 17,and as far as I understand,her compulsory education in the Swedish system is at an end.
    Whether she can now mature into a 'normal' adult is open to debate,but one would wish that she herself would have the overriding say in that.
    However,it does appear that she has several close and strong 'Influencers' amongst her retinue and it is their influence I see as being a major part of this young lady's future.

    I would very much hope that nobody is viewing Greta Thunberg as merely a piece of news-fodder,but I am also realistic enough to see the signs of exactly that in how her pronouncements are being handled.
    The World as seen and understood by Greta Thunberg,may not quite be the World as inhabited by many billions of others.
    That reality may not sit well on her shoulders,nor with her handlers.


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,751 ✭✭✭Pa ElGrande


    KyussB wrote: »
    Don't worry guys, the entire issue of human generated climate change is now yesterdays news, thanks to Covid-19.

    And the Desert Locusts causing devastation as they continue their movement from Africa across Pakistan.


    There is the Repo crisis that has been going on the background since last August, where central banks have intervened to keep short term interest rates down. Sweden even ditched the most foolish central banking policy ever - negative interest rates. What price do we pay for this experiment of artificially created negative rates. How about unaffordable homes.

    Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,943 ✭✭✭Grab All Association


    There’s a weird girl the spitting image of Greta on the Limerick Junction-Limerick shuttle. She keeps gazing over at me too, it’s freaking me out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,751 ✭✭✭Pa ElGrande


    Luisa Neubauer cut out! Hamburg woman becomes controversial topic at Fridays for Future
    The problem: Neubauer is too public. "This personality cult around Luisa Neubauer is already difficult," said Laetitia Seyboldt from the FFF management team in the Black Forest of the "world". "She is said to have flown relatively often in the past - so I am not sure whether she is suitable as a representative". Fridays for Future is not about individuals, it's about the thing itself.

    Neubauer deals openly with the allegations. She hadn't chosen to be a public person, she said to criticism from the Black Forest. "Wherever possible, I make inquiries and cordially refer to other movements," she is quoted in the "Focus".

    Fridays for Future: Neubauer has been given too many speeches

    The first Zoff was launched at the beginning of spring 2019, three months after the media became aware of Neubauer. Allegations of career lust against Luisa and a few confidants were made. And the close cooperation in the management team with Neubauer's cousin Carla Reemtsma was often criticized - the distribution of speeches and appearances was too one-sided.

    source URL="https://www.mopo.de/hamburg/luisa-neubauer-abgesaegt--hamburgerin-wird-zum-streitthema-bei-fridays-for-future--36352660"]de[/URL


    In morketing terms 23 year olds don't fit the demographic profile for school kids and they substituted a 17 year old to get more mileage out of the propaganda. I suppose she can always call on Bono for a new gig.

    Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,348 ✭✭✭Jimmy Garlic


    Luisa Neubauer cut out! Hamburg woman becomes controversial topic at Fridays for Future




    In morketing terms 23 year olds don't fit the demographic profile for school kids and they substituted a 17 year old to get more mileage out of the propaganda. I suppose she can always call on Bono for a new gig.

    Wonder what they will do when they can't use the child angle to set up their straw men. I suppose there is always gender and aspergers to fall back on. That said, I'd say in terms of being a climate celeb Greta is overcooked, the finger wagging "how dare you"s and preachy wooden melodrama have gone stale. They are probably manufacturing another one to roll out after the bat flu looses its fear factor, maybe the next one will have more charisma than a soggy egg sandwich.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,365 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Wonder what they will do when they can't use the child angle to set up their straw men. I suppose there is always gender and aspergers to fall back on. That said, I'd say in terms of being a climate celeb Greta is overcooked, the finger wagging "how dare you"s and preachy wooden melodrama have gone stale. They are probably manufacturing another one to roll out after the bat flu looses its fear factor, maybe the next one will have more charisma than a soggy egg sandwich.

    May I ask why you keep calling the coronavirus "Chinese bat flu" as if it's nothing to be taking seriously at all? The WHO just declared it a pandemic. Do you believe doctors when they tell you things or do you visit faith healers or what?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,348 ✭✭✭Jimmy Garlic


    May I ask why you keep calling the coronavirus "Chinese bat flu" as if it's nothing to be taking seriously at all? The WHO just declared it a pandemic. Do you believe doctors when they tell you things or do you visit faith healers or what?


    34 cases in Ireland and not not a roll of toilet paper left in my local Spar because one panic stricken woman decided she needed it all, probably sh1tting herself with the fear. That's how far the sheer hysteria generated by the media has gone. Every hypochondriac in the country has flared up and lost the plot. Suicide will kill more people in Ireland this year than bat flu, by a country mile.


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    34 cases in Ireland and not not a roll of toilet paper left in my local Spar because one panic stricken woman decided she needed it all, probably sh1tting herself with the fear. That's how far the sheer hysteria generated by the media has gone. Every hypochondriac in the country has flared up and lost the plot. Suicide will kill more people in Ireland this year than bat flu, by a country mile.

    We've had our first death from it today, there were 168 recorded deaths in Italy in the last 24 hours. 631 people have died in Italy to date. It is a global pandemic that we presently have no vaccine for. So to be honest, I think it's pretty nasty that you seem to be making quips about it. Just because you are not an at risk group does not make it not serious. Congrats on neither being elderly or immunocompromised but you are incredibly ignorant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,004 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    We've had our first death from it today, there were 168 recorded deaths in Italy in the last 24 hours. 631 people have died in Italy to date. It is a global pandemic that we presently have no vaccine for. So to be honest, I think it's pretty nasty that you seem to be making quips about it. Just because you are not an at risk group does not make it not serious. Congrats on neither being elderly or immunocompromised but you are incredibly ignorant.

    So far the population appears to be conducting itself rather well,that may change if the constant media barrage of Covid related fears,facts and fancies manages to overcome our national trait of cynicism and cuteness.

    We continue to live in a Society which,in the Western World,has made incredible strides in improving the general quality of life for human beings,with our species living to ages which would have been unimginable a century ago,and at a comfort and education level of an equal status.

    Covid-19 may wipe out the human race,and perhaps do it rapidly....I don't know,and nor,it appears, does ANYbody else..be they Proffessor or Peasant,so apart from feeling sympathetic for those unlucky enough to be susceptible to it,I can't personally alter their situation for them. :(

    Accepting that fact means I have to just get on with my own imperfect life,and cope as best that I can.

    https://miro.medium.com/max/800/1*lKFgM81i9LXlRRgC7Kc1yw.jpeg


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver


    She and her dad pranked Harry today, haha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭KyussB


    34 cases in Ireland and not not a roll of toilet paper left in my local Spar because one panic stricken woman decided she needed it all, probably sh1tting herself with the fear. That's how far the sheer hysteria generated by the media has gone. Every hypochondriac in the country has flared up and lost the plot. Suicide will kill more people in Ireland this year than bat flu, by a country mile.
    You didn't learn about exponential growth in math class, did you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,348 ✭✭✭Jimmy Garlic


    KyussB wrote: »
    You didn't learn about exponential growth in math class, did you?

    Peaked in China over a month ago. Massive drop in daily reported cases. No need to dig into your stash of baked beans and toilet paper just yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭KyussB


    Well that's the coronavirus sorted, then - good thing it never got out of China.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,004 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    KyussB wrote: »
    Well that's the coronavirus sorted, then - good thing it never got out of China.

    Tis indeed...

    Covid-19 will sort itself out,largely without any great input from us,just as...dare I suggest our climate will do.

    In the meantime,we will make great strides,some forward and some backward,while we get ourselves into some position of co-existence with the situation,but we will survive.

    Ms Thunberg's team however,appear to have a very inflated notion of our dominance over this planet...we don't....Earth dominates us.;)


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,004 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    Peaked in China over a month ago. Massive drop in daily reported cases. No need to dig into your stash of baked beans and toilet paper just yet.

    Jimmy...did you do maths in school ?....or better still,sums ? :D


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,751 ✭✭✭Pa ElGrande


    Real problems like Covid-19 take precedence over imaginary ones, like a "climate emergency". Covid-19 might "temporarily" stop the climate schemers racking up air miles to various conferences and adopt video conferencing instead.


    How Coronavirus Could Set Back the Fight Against Climate Change
    Rescheduling meetings has proven hazardous. The Convention on Biological Diversity, which is trying to broker a landmark deal to protect nature by October, moved a meeting from Kunming, China to Rome, to escape the coronavirus. But as the meeting progressed delegates were slowly recalled as news spread of a coronavirus outbreak in Italy. “We left around the middle of the week,” says Lina Barrera, vice president of international policy at Conservation International. “Some people didn’t come at all.”

    source


    It is worth pointing out that nobody dies due to global warming, they may die as a result of the policies used to prevent global warming such as being unable to afford heating in cold parts of the Northern hemisphere such as Ireland.

    Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭KyussB


    Remarkable - posters seem to think the coronavirus just 'sorted itself out' in China, seemingly without any action taken by people or the country.

    Guess we don't need any quarantine or lockdown measures then - Italy should just release their travel restrictions and forget about the coronavirus - it will just 'sort itself out', largely without our input?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,348 ✭✭✭Jimmy Garlic


    KyussB wrote: »
    Remarkable - posters seem to think the coronavirus just 'sorted itself out' in China, seemingly without any action taken by people or the country.

    Guess we don't need any quarantine or lockdown measures then - Italy should just release their travel restrictions and forget about the coronavirus - it will just 'sort itself out', largely without our input?

    It will yeah, as the temperature rises the virus will fizzle out, as is the case with the flu each and every year. Common sense and a bit of basic hand hygiene. A bit ironic that the hysterical are congregating at supermarkets like a scene from Dawn of the Dead. What better place to catch something than a few inches apart in a supermarket queue. Simpletons whipped up into a hysterical frenzy by the media and the government.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,654 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    It is worth pointing out that nobody dies due to global warming, ...

    drought? famine? heatwaves, rising sea levels, more extreme storms, hurricanes?

    https://www.fastcompany.com/90473758/what-would-happen-if-the-world-reacted-to-climate-change-like-its-reacting-to-the-coronavirus
    A growing number of cities and countries have formally declared a climate emergency. Some are acting more quickly than others. But the overall mobilization looks nothing like the response to the coronavirus. In part, that’s because climate change still seems like a somewhat distant problem, despite the growing number of climate-related disasters that happen every year. Another obvious challenge: In the climate crisis, powerful companies have a lot to lose if the world acts decisively, and with the virus, though many people are losing money, there’s no similarly massive opposition to trying to address the problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    It will yeah, as the temperature rises the virus will fizzle out, as is the case with the flu each and every year. Common sense and a bit of basic hand hygiene. A bit ironic that the hysterical are congregating at supermarkets like a scene from Dawn of the Dead. What better place to catch something than a few inches apart in a supermarket queue. Simpletons whipped up into a hysterical frenzy by the media and the government.

    You're looking temperature in the low teens up until June, that's colder than it is in Iran at the moment, foolhardy or plain ignorant?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭KyussB


    Ya and it's a good thing the temperature in the Southern Hemisphere rises with the Northern Hemisphere, right?...

    Countries such as Australia - currently hotter than Ireland gets at any time of the year, and undergoing the early stages of an exponential outbreak - don't contradict that narrative at all, and don't have anything to worry about - they're free to completely ignore the coronavirus...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,004 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    KyussB wrote: »
    Remarkable - posters seem to think the coronavirus just 'sorted itself out' in China, seemingly without any action taken by people or the country.

    Guess we don't need any quarantine or lockdown measures then - Italy should just release their travel restrictions and forget about the coronavirus - it will just 'sort itself out', largely without our input?

    Well ...no...CV has'nt 'sorted itself out'.

    It is only in the process of doing so...and it will.

    For sure our superior,intelligent and dominant human race will combat it,and eventually come to terms with it,but just as with the common cold,flu or a zillion other infections,humanity will not defeat it.

    Introducing new measures may slow it down or reduce it's impact,but Nature will out.

    Filling the garden shed with dried noodles and toilet paper will make individuals feel they have played their part,but buying a bar of soap might be a better response ?

    I'm wondering when the Thunberg machine will emerge with a link between Their chosen topic and CV-19,particularly as virtually all Schools are on strike today anyway......FRIDAY,THE 13TH :eek:


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



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    You're looking temperature in the low teens up until June, that's colder than it is in Iran at the moment, foolhardy or plain ignorant?

    Jimmy knows better than the WHO. It's all some elaborate conspiracy theory...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,348 ✭✭✭Jimmy Garlic


    Jimmy knows better than the WHO. It's all some elaborate conspiracy theory...

    "I need to speak to you about coronavirus" said the teapot in Washington DC. Important enough to selectively over react and feed mass hysteria, but not important enough to cancel the annual five star junket to stay at home and deal with it. Still not important enough for him to say goodbye and good luck lads, I've to go home. Government and media milking this for all its worth, before we know it FF/FG will be using it as excuse to form a government "in the national interest". Simon Harris jizzing in his pants. The knock on effect from the hysteria will cause more damage than the virus itself. Genuinely at risk people will be bed blocked by the sizable number of emboldened hypochondriacs who will clog the health system.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,348 ✭✭✭Jimmy Garlic


    Just as I said it...

    https://www.thejournal.ie/government-formation-poll-5044956-Mar2020/

    FFFG to the rescue! Aren't we lucky?


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