National Broadband Ireland : implementation and progress

allanpkr

ECO_Mental wrote: »

Parents just had a visit from the NBI lads doing their survey in around the Ballygarvan area in Cork. They said they should have it in about 18 months or so. My parents put me down for a connection also as I am planning to build a house there this year finished in 18 months time :D:D

I was one of the first people on here to get FTTH 4 or 5 years ago and had been enjoying 1Gbs since then, but I sold my house to build my new one and now my rented house has only 20-30mbs at best (in the middle of cork city:mad:) It was a big worry for me moving to the country where the checkers were saying i could only get max 10mb:eek::eek::eek:

I will rest easy tonight:p

damn im so glad your going to get ftth , only getting 20,30 mbs how do you cope. im getting 2 mbs max so my heart goes out to you. although 18 months from survey to fruition seems a worrying long time ?

fergus1001

allanpkr wrote:

damn im so glad your going to get ftth , only getting 20,30 mbs how do you cope. im getting 2 mbs max so my heart goes out to you. although 18 months from survey to fruition seems a worrying long time ?

I'd say it's an up to 18 months so people dont start giving out saying that NBI said I'd have broadband in two months

heavydawson

https://www.leinsterexpress.ie/news/news/523873/high-speed-broadband-promised-to-every-door-in-laois-by-2027.html

user1842

There was a EIR van outside my parents house today. The guy told my father that they will bring fibre broadband to my parents house in the next two months.

My parents house is in the NBP amber area and is 2km (20 houses away at the end of a ribbon development) from the nearest Eir rural fibre house.

Some of that 2km stretch is ducted and the houses are not close together. Most of the poles would need to be replaced also.

Seems that EIR may encroach well into the amber area, in some locations.

Not that im complaining, actually my parents are delighted.

Gary kk

user1842 wrote: »

There was a EIR van outside my parents house today. The guy told my father that they will bring fibre broadband to my parents house in the next two months.

My parents house is in the NBP amber area and is 2km (20 houses away at the end of a ribbon development) from the nearest Eir rural fibre house.

Some of that 2km stretch is ducted and the houses are not close together. Most of the poles would need to be replaced also.

Seems that EIR may encroach well into the amber area, in some locations.

Not that im complaining, actually my parents are delighted.

Do mind the man in the van heard that where i live too that was 3 years ago

clohamon

https://www.independent.ie/regionals/braypeople/news/access-to-high-speed-broadband-can-remove-the-digital-divide-39033429.html

Mr Shakespeare outlined that the core network exchanges in Wicklow will be Blessington and Kilcoole with surveying of townlands to get under way later this year.

Mr Shakespeare said that the plan was to re-use existing ESB poles to deliver broadband and while there may be exceptions, there were no major plans to cut down trees. As the network expanded, towns and villages would be connected to the service during the seven year project.

KOR101

mistake?

KOR101

Up to 150 high-speed internet hubs envisaged under the National Broadband Plan (NBP) will be deployed within the next three to nine months.

National Broadband Ireland (NBI), the company rolling out the project, said it will have half the proposed 300 “broadband connection points”, where the public can get free high-speed internet access, deployed by the end of this year.

NBI said up to 10,000 homes will be passed by the network by the end of 2020, while it will have “detailed design plans” for additional 108,000, equating to 20 per cent of 540,000 households covered by the project.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/technology/up-to-150-high-speed-internet-hubs-to-be-deployed-by-end-of-year-1.4204038

KOR101

Delays to rural broadband plan 'too early to predict'

National Broadband Ireland, the company running the National Broadband Plan, does not yet foresee substantial delays in the rollout of rural broadband under the scheme, senior executives say. The lockdown of movement and some forms of transportation has raised fears that advanced planning and 'on-the-ground' activity related to the 500,000-premise rollout may be curtailed.

However, company executives note that it is too early to say if current plans will be shifted.

https://www.independent.ie/business/technology/news/delays-to-rural-broadband-plan-too-early-to-predict-39056745.html

mp3guy

The NBI vans were down outside my house this morning checking out my vault and asking how big the ducting up to my house is, said it'll be a few months.

celticbhoy27

mp3guy wrote: »

The NBI vans were down outside my house this morning checking out my vault and asking how big the ducting up to my house is, said it'll be a few months.

County?

listermint

Ive no idea where the ducting is for my house. I do know the previous owner had numerous issues with Eircom and eventually nearly a legal battle for refunds as the speeds issued where 500kb or so. so quite poor. Meanwhile ive been on Wireless since we moved in.

What i want to know is I will be redoing the driveway very soon. So plan is to re-duct from the gate back up to house. There is an existing Eircom Pole outside the gate just to the left of that entrance.

Is that where i should be aiming for running ducting too or is there other requirements. Obviously circumference, depth and access lengths will be adhered to.

mp3guy

celticbhoy27 wrote: »

County?

Cork, near Carrigaline.

CptMackey

mp3guy wrote: »

Cork, near Carrigaline.

I'm west of carrigaline within the 30km radius but not sure if I'll be on the initial roll out. Could come from the west of me too. Are they kn or nbi vans/people

mp3guy

CptMackey wrote: »

I'm west of carrigaline within the 30km radius but not sure if I'll be on the initial roll out. Could come from the west of me too. Are they kn or nbi vans/people

4site and NBI branded vans I've seen.

KOR101

Within Fingal, Skerries is to be the first to be surveyed, which will take place in summer 2020. Once detailed design work has been carried out, work will then commence in the town, with every premises benefiting from a broadband solution. A survey of Lusk is due to commence in 2021.

https://www.independent.ie/regionals/fingalindependent/news/high-speed-broadband-promised-across-fingal-39048702.html

Gary kk

Sorry kinda off topic but is anyone else here using Aptus and if so how are they finding it for the last week

celticbhoy27

Gary kk wrote: »

Sorry kinda off topic but is anyone else here using Aptus and if so how are they finding it for the last week

****e. But I'm assuming that's across the board with all wisps. Haven't even bothered complaining. People working from home and kids off is crippling the service

mp3guy

Gary kk wrote: »

Sorry kinda off topic but is anyone else here using crAptus and if so how are they finding it for the last week

Heraldoffreeent

I wonder how closely the Govt will be examining the Force majeure clause in this for when the Covid crisis ends?

Gary kk

I guess to be fair they have been good up to now. It is shown the limit of fixed LTE well I guess I don't know how people it fiber are getting on.

allanpkr

Gary kk wrote: »

I guess to be fair they have been good up to now. It is shown the limit of fixed LTE well I guess I don't know how people it fiber are getting on.

well, safe to say they are most likely getting better results than wisp customers

wexfordman2

celticbhoy27 wrote: »

****e. But I'm assuming that's across the board with all wisps. Haven't even bothered complaining. People working from home and kids off is crippling the service

Apparrsntly., Mobile operators have seen a 30% increase in data usage

Atomic Pineapple

Just reading up on this. Are they really going to waste a year setting up BCPs as hubs that they expect people with no decent broadband to travel to? Or have I completely misunderstood what a BCP is?

user1842

Atomic Pineapple wrote: »

Just reading up on this. Are they really going to waste a year setting up BCPs as hubs that they expect people with no decent broadband to travel to? Or have I completely misunderstood what a BCP is?

Nope you are correct and these BCPs are a waste of time and money.

rodge123

user1842 wrote: »

Nope you are correct and these BCPs are a waste of time and money.

Even more so now with covid19 around for who knows how long requiring social distancing. Not that they could have predicted this.

Atomic Pineapple

user1842 wrote: »

Nope you are correct and these BCPs are a waste of time and money.

Jesus, we'll be bringing the kids to the local GAA club to play a game of Fortnite rather than football soon so.

johnnyboy08

Does anyone know what the story with the rollout plan is? It's been as a few weeks on their website since December.

Gary kk

Nothing concrete a few cameos with guys out surveying in cork and cavan i think

heavydawson

https://www.anglocelt.ie/news/roundup/articles/2020/04/05/4188194-broadband-surveys-continuing-ahead-of-rollout/

heavydawson

https://www.totaltele.com/505419/COVID-19-wont-stand-in-the-way-of-Irelands-broadband

Pique

http://www.roscommoncoco.ie/en/News-Events/Latest-News/Rollout-of-High-Speed-Broadband-in-the-Ballinasloe-Area.html

user1842

Pique wrote: »

http://www.roscommoncoco.ie/en/News-Events/Latest-News/Rollout-of-High-Speed-Broadband-in-the-Ballinasloe-Area.html

Who will fix all of Open Eirs poles?

ACitizenErased

This is still running as normal so? Fair to say?

The Cush

user1842 wrote: »

Who will fix all of Open Eirs poles?

Open-eir or one of its contractors.

user1842

The Cush wrote: »

Open-eir or one of its contractors.

Do you think Open-eir will do this is any proper time frame. I think this will massively delay the NBP.

The Cush

user1842 wrote: »

Do you think Open-eir will do this is any proper time frame.

I do because they will have signed contracts which I assume will include timeframes and in return open-eir get paid a handsome €1bn of public money in the process, add to that eir may sign up many of those premises passed as customers, business is business.

theguzman

The Cush wrote: »

I do because they will have signed contracts which I assume will include timeframes and in return open-eir get paid a handsome €1bn of public money in the process, add to that eir may sign up many of those premises passed as customers, business is business.

New customers without having to maintain the network to them, Eir will benefit from this but who cares if rural dwellers like myself can finally get FTTH. We really are lucky the contract got signed prior to the Coronavirus outbreak or we may be held back another 20 years.

db

I had an NBI surveyor checking the poles outside my house today so I went out for a chat. We are in a gap between two runs of Eir fibre, 500m from one end and 1km from the other. He told me that NBI would be running fibre from the local exchange (about 5km away) to fill in the gap and connect us up. He was checking both the condition of the poles and the access into the houses, routing of the wires and which pole each house was connected to.

He told me that there is a draft plan but it would not be finalised until the surveys are completed so I would guess as they finish the survey on each area they will complete that section of the plan and people would then be able to find out when they should be able to get connected. He said they should be running the cable for our section before the end of the year. Obviously, I'll believe that when I see the cable on the poles but at least it looks like we will be in one of the early phases. It's also good to see that they are working away so the current crisis shouldn't be any reason for delay.

I am in a rural area about 10km from Limerick city.

ACitizenErased

db wrote: »

I had an NBI surveyor checking the poles outside my house today so I went out for a chat. We are in a gap between two runs of Eir fibre, 500m from one end and 1km from the other. He told me that NBI would be running fibre from the local exchange (about 5km away) to fill in the gap and connect us up. He was checking both the condition of the poles and the access into the houses, routing of the wires and which pole each house was connected to.

He told me that there is a draft plan but it would not be finalised until the surveys are completed so I would guess as they finish the survey on each area they will complete that section of the plan and people would then be able to find out when they should be able to get connected. He said they should be running the cable for our section before the end of the year. Obviously, I'll believe that when I see the cable on the poles but at least it looks like we will be in one of the early phases. It's also good to see that they are working away so the current crisis shouldn't be any reason for delay.

I am in a rural area about 10km from Limerick city.

I'm guessing they'll try sort out the cities first, ie Cork, Galway, Limerick, Waterford etc before moving out into rural regions so the fact you're up there makes sense. We had surveyors here in Rochestown, Cork City in January/February.

Jofspring

db wrote: »

I had an NBI surveyor checking the poles outside my house today so I went out for a chat. We are in a gap between two runs of Eir fibre, 500m from one end and 1km from the other. He told me that NBI would be running fibre from the local exchange (about 5km away) to fill in the gap and connect us up. He was checking both the condition of the poles and the access into the houses, routing of the wires and which pole each house was connected to.

He told me that there is a draft plan but it would not be finalised until the surveys are completed so I would guess as they finish the survey on each area they will complete that section of the plan and people would then be able to find out when they should be able to get connected. He said they should be running the cable for our section before the end of the year. Obviously, I'll believe that when I see the cable on the poles but at least it looks like we will be in one of the early phases. It's also good to see that they are working away so the current crisis shouldn't be any reason for delay.

I am in a rural area about 10km from Limerick city.

Out of interest what direction would you be in . Out Kilmallock way or out askeaton direction. Reason I ask is I have seen vans working for months on the main road (old cork road) but the vans never had any company name on them. Wondering are they for Eir or are they for NBP.

Eir stop their service about 200 metres from my house so I'm on the NBP.

db

Jofspring wrote: »

Out of interest what direction would you be in . Out Kilmallock way or out askeaton direction. Reason I ask is I have seen vans working for months on the main road (old cork road) but the vans never had any company name on them. Wondering are they for Eir or are they for NBP.

Eir stop their service about 200 metres from my house so I'm on the NBP.

I'm actually over the Clare border so the opposite direction.

clohamon

Confirmation of NBP from joint FF/FG government facilitation document

Mission: A Better Quality of Life for All
We are committed to drawing on the sense of community and solidarity that has been displayed in such strength throughout the Covid-19 Emergency. We will use this to provide a basis for improving the quality of life for individuals and families across Ireland, reflecting the anxieties of citizens around commuting, regional imbalance, and a lack of time with family. The importance of parks, green spaces and other outdoor recreation is clearly essential to the wellbeing of the Irish people.
In order to do this, we will:
i. Prioritise balanced regional development across Ireland in policy- making, ensuring that every part of the country has a chance to prosper.
ii. Implement the National Broadband Plan (NBP).

Dero

clohamon wrote: »

Confirmation of NBP from joint FF/FG government facilitation document

I think it's fair to say that the current crisis has shown the value of having a proper national broadband infrastructure.

Atomic Pineapple

Just spin to get into government, I wouldn't hold my breath that rural Ireland will have anything resembling fibre broadband on a national level by the time another election comes around. /rant

allanpkr

Atomic Pineapple wrote: »

Just spin to get into government, I wouldn't hold my breath that rural Ireland will have anything resembling fibre broadband on a national level by the time another election comes around.

well everyone knows the timeline of project. nothing to do with govn now.

Dylbag

I see on the NBI website that a Broadband connection point is planned for the premises next to my work place. Is it wrong to assume that once they connect it up then the lines that are going to it from the exchange would be open to getting broadband, as they go right by my business.

clohamon

Dylbag wrote: »

I see on the NBI website that a Broadband connection point is planned for the premises next to my work place. Is it wrong to assume that once they connect it up then the lines that are going to it from the exchange would be open to getting broadband, as they go right by my business.

The Broadband connection points are temporary WiFi hubs for very rural communities. They will be connected to the wider network by microwave links (wireless) not fibre.
If you're right beside the BCP, the WiFi might be usable but AFAIK there are no plans to extend the WiFI to local businesses before the main Fibre-to-the-Premises network reaches you. Information on the main roll-out is very thin and likely to remain so.

The Cush

Saw my first NBI van today, on the outskirts of Limerick city, between the Annacotty roundabout and Chawkes. One of the 2 lads was having a look in a manhole.

Jofspring

The Cush wrote: »

Saw my first NBI van today, on the outskirts of Limerick city, between the Annacotty roundabout and Chawkes. One of the 2 lads was having a look in a manhole.

Ya have seen the vans in the area also out past Ballyneety. Seem to be starting out this direction now. That or they are driving around in circles to give the illusion they are out this way.