National Broadband Ireland : implementation and progress

wexfordman2

nbi website down ?

baz9375

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118896821#Comment_118896821

Down for me too

wexfordman2

back up but many pages not working, including the check my location page

heavydawson

Massive write up on NBI in the business post today. Looks like they were afforded full access to the executives and given latest numbers on everything. The piece is still critical overall, but more balanced than the previous articles from the BP.

https://www.businesspost.ie/infrastructure/the-men-behind-the-wire-national-broadband-ireland-is-struggling-to-hit-its-connection-targets-but-its-leadership-insists-that-it-can-catch-up-7f483d79

There's a separate article on the timeline being revised as well

https://www.businesspost.ie/infrastructure/nbi-shelves-plan-to-deliver-broadband-plan-in-five-years-c5bd861f

clohamon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118894884#Comment_118894884

One quibble with Deputy Smyth's reply..

"We reformed the mobile phone and broadband task force in order that we could co-operate with the local authorities."

Another good reason for re-forming the task force was that DECC had been suggesting strongly to the European Commission that it was still in existence. Here's their response to Q.18 of the EC's questionnaire on the "Connectivity Tool Box" (Sept 2020 - April 2021)

"https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/library/connectivity-toolbox-member-states-develop-and-share-roadmaps-toolbox-implementation"

clohamon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118905923#Comment_118905923

Yes, definitely a change of tune now that he's been given some TLC. Hopefully the reporting will be more accurate and less snarky from now on.

We'll send you the first quarter numbers so you're current." he [McCourt] says as he turns to leave.

We'd appreciate you putting them in there - you see how hard everyone's working? They get depressed when they read [critical] stuff in the paper all the time.

feelings

Does anyone think they'll have it done within seven years? 🙄 Not a chance.

heavydawson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118909075#Comment_118909075

Let's see how their projections for this year end up panning out. I was genuinely shocked at how rate-limted they were in their contact with Eir. That seems to be behind them now, as is covid ( I hope).

pman35

naughto

Do nbi bring up areas that are being connected.they where in my village 3 weeks ago did a good bit of work then moved to a different did the same,I meet them this morning setting up in a new area even though none of the other ones where finished.

Bass Reeves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118910157#Comment_118910157

Contracts are skill specific. For instance lads putting up cable may not be doing civils work. Fiber jointers need to come after to splice fiber to DP's. Then you will have a test and commission crew.

joe123

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118905923#Comment_118905923

Had they ever actually confirmed 5 years? It always seemed like it was talk and then nothing came of it.

Its a bit worrying that they keep saying within 7 years....considering 2026 is the 7th year of the project. I hope its not a 7 year from now type thing they are trying to spin.

The Cush

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118910471#Comment_118910471

5 years was never confirmed, only that they were looking at their opinions. At the current rollout rate it'll be another 5 years before they complete.

joe123

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118910858#Comment_118910858

Yeah, talk of the 5 year/acceleration seemed to die away pretty quickly during 2021. If it does take them another 5 from this point, the rollout will be behind by 1 year if im not mistaken.

2019 was the start date + 7 year timeframe sets it at 2026. But as you said, everything pointing to much later than this currently.

heavydawson

It's the original 7 year timeline they're sticking to. No funny business around 5 years from now, etc...

clohamon

A tale of two villages.

Killeagh, Cork was part of the Eircom 300K but seemingly they're not going to be doing any fibre now (screenshot on left). It doesn't show with any 1Gb cover in Eircom's map but the Department show it nominally as blue except that every single premises leading out of the village is ambered.(screeshot on right)

The opposite happened in Knockanore, Waterford where Eircom had no plans and the department assumed it was all amber. But out of nowhere Eircom have decided to fibre up the area (screenshot on left) seemingly without telling anyone in the Department.(screenshot on right)

SW98

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118855911#Comment_118855911

Emailed the broadband officer three weeks ago and I have not got any response yet. No other updates regarding fibre broadband either, it's a pure joke.

trant

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118862014#Comment_118862014

I finally heard back from NBI and previous posters were correct. Once my area goes live I will be able to place an order which will trigger a survey. No idea how long that will take, but at least I know what the process is.

trant

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118962253#Comment_118962253

Keep at it, contact your local councillor who can also escalate with DCCAE. It's going to take some effort, but will hopefully be worth it in the end.

Gary kk

To be fair they seem to be trojan work anywhere I meet on the roads.

pman35

Finally fibre cable been installed on poles in my area . I know its still a few months away yet but its great just to see the progress. Once they get to your area they get the cable up fairly quick. I was talking to one of the crew and he said a good crew should be able to put up about 3km of cable a day.

Agent Avenger

NBI are cutting it fairly close here again in the Carrigaline DA. Current date for connection is March-May but there’s nothing happening. The cables have been strung up since last summer but no DPs up yet. I can sense another delay coming. I did contact the local broadband officer and he got a bog standard reply back from them of the dates it should be available.

Will have to go further about it if it does end up being pushed back yet again, think it will be the 8th or ninth time. Original dates were Nov 20-Jan 21! Has anyone else had dates so near to connection being available without being able to pre-order or without DPs being put up?

It’s getting a bit ridiculous at this stage. If the dates had been a few years out from the start I wouldn’t have had a problem but to keep being told it’s so close and then it being pushed back again and again is frustrating.

Tony H

March /May here in Midleton /Cobh as well but lots of activity in the last few weeks in Cobh , even replaced the pole outside our gates ( lots of new poles in the last month , really hoping for connection before next year at this stage , it's the lack of concrete info that does my head in .

WestWicklow1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118675044#Comment_118675044

Well, that didn't happen. Pre-order is now at approximately 120 days. One consolation is that there's lots of activity in the area (West Wicklow, Blessington DA).

flipper2009

That's a pity.

Fibre on poles in the Gort DA and Vodafone going house to house offering deals. I've pre-ordered with Digiweb and there are now 13 suppliers to choose from. There were only 2 for a long time. So it is beginning to look like fibre will come to the back of beyonds.....

heavydawson

https://michael.stapelberg.ch/posts/2022-04-23-fiber7-25gbit-upgrade/

😮

johnnyboy08

Aptus have been added to the list of available pre-order providers for some eircodes in the Wexford DA and are the first I've seen to offer the 2Gb product (AptusTWO). At least the promised increased infrastructure bandwidth was delivered, shame about the rest of the rollout taking its sweet time.

Schorpio

https://www.independent.ie/business/technology/eir-passes-over-800000-homes-for-fibre-broadband-41584792.html

An article from yesterday which is suspiciously positive towards Eir, whilst also commenting that the NBP is "lagging its targets". Conveniently no mention of timeframes in relation to Eir's rollout, nor any kind of acknowledgement that the rural nature of the NBP intrinsically makes passing houses slower/more difficult.

The article also mentions SIRO as "Eir’s main private fibre broadband supplier", which I guess is sort of true on the backend, but I wouldn't have worded it that way myself as I would view them as separate public-facing entities. SIRO is also stated to be planning "to ‘pass’ 770,000 homes in the coming years" - no critisim of any timeframes here either.

I honestly don't get what some in the media have against the NBP. Maybe it's just lazy journalism/low-hanging fruit. Or perhaps it's both.

Gunner3629

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118978004#Comment_118978004

I guess its partly because NBI have very specific targets for everyone to see, and they don't seem to be meeting them at present. Siro and Eir are less clear on their micro goals, instead just giving us the big figures. i.e. 800k houses passed.

Schorpio

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118978183#Comment_118978183

You're correct of course. But nowhere is that sentiment represented in the article.

To me anyway, the language used seems to suggest that Eir and SIRO are doing really well in their rollouts, whilst the NBP is struggling. There is no sense of balance in that the NBP is the only one with publicly available rollout targets, and specifically targets the hardest to reach premises; places which the commercial operators have completed neglected.