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General Election and Government Formation Megathread (see post #1)

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    #182
    An Ciarraioch
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    According to a chronicler of the Irish right, the various groupings are co-ordinating their campaigns as follows:

    https://twitter.com/soundmigration/status/1218234401408024577


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    #183
    touts
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Over past few days I’ve been listening to Duffy, Darcy etc, and have most certainly heard a couple of things that would give the impression of distinct bias against FG. Now I am no supporter of FG myself and put them down at the bottom of my vote. If one takes a look at the Liveline and Darcy threads there’s commentary at the points where bias has been blatant. A rerun through the radio shows in the Player will leave one in little doubt, although today Joe Duffy was covering his tracks as there most probably were complaints sent into RTÉ. I don’t intend this thread to be a rant against or for any political parties, rather a reflection of opinions on how the broadcaster is managing electoral neutrality.

    Would you prefer them to waste time putting lipstick on a pig?


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    #184
    Abel Ruiz
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    I think Joe duffy got a slap on the wrist and was told to stay neutral.
    The difference of today's show compared to Wednesday and Thursday is night and day.
    He doesn't want any complaints, so to speak.


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    #185
    KWAG2019
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    An Ciarraioch wrote: »
    According to a chronicler of the Irish right, the various groupings are co-ordinating their campaigns as follows:

    https://twitter.com/soundmigration/status/1218234401408024577

    A strategy known as save-the-deposit-for-Christ’s-sake


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    #186
    robman60
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    This is going to be a real problem for the parties when it increases to 40% for all elections after 2022.

    I was at one of the appeals of the FF candidate bringing the constitutional challenge and I think there's a fair chance he'll succeed in the supreme Court but still more likely he won't.


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    #187
    Atlantic Dawn
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    If they have gender neutral candidates what happens then?


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    #188
    is_that_so
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    robman60 wrote: »
    This is going to be a real problem for the parties when it increases to 40% for all elections after 2022.

    I was at one of the appeals of the FF candidate bringing the constitutional challenge and I think there's a fair chance he'll succeed in the supreme Court but still more likely he won't.
    It may not be as hard as you imagine, especially if it has done its job in representation. It's barely 1 in 10 extra for parties to come up with.


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    #189
    Dyr
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    is_that_so wrote: »
    It may not be as hard as you imagine, especially if it has done its job in representation. It's barely 1 in 10 extra for parties to come up with.

    Well it did its job in dropping the quality of representation, which I didnt think was possible but there you go.


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    #190
    is_that_so
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    Bambi wrote: »
    Well it did its job in dropping the quality of representation, which I didnt think was possible but there you go.
    That's been going on since the 80s. There are far more attractive and lucrative options for smart, able people than politics. Then there's the routine dog's abuse they get so no surprise at all.


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    #191
    sid waddell
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    Bambi wrote: »
    Well it did its job in dropping the quality of representation, which I didnt think was possible but there you go.

    Forums like this and others hardly help in terms of quality of representation, why go forward if people are just going to abuse you whatever you do.


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    #192
    beggars_bush
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    A lot more female 'running mates' in this election

    A lot of them there to achieve the quota if you ask me


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    #193
    is_that_so
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    beggars_bush wrote: »
    A lot more female 'running mates' in this election

    A lot of them there to achieve the quota if you ask me
    That's what running mates do - boost overall party share geographically, but over time they can become the Number 1 with their own running mate.


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    #194
    is_that_so
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    Larbre34 wrote: »
    Expect Brendan to get back no problem, but mark me folks, Verona Murphy is going to get elected.
    How? Her last vote was courtesy of FG backing. On numbers anyway she needs to get past the most recent FF TD, who I imagine will be re-elected and 2/3 FG candidates, including two incumbents.


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    #195
    ButtersSuki
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    Big drop in FG % with the gap largely filled by FF gain coming in poll in tomorrow’s Sunday Times.


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    #196
    is_that_so
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    Just as a comparison, here's their last one from December. Notable here is the somewhat dubious support level for SF, given that the average support level for SF across all polls is 15%.
    FG 27 FF 27 SF 20 Lab 6 GR 6 PBP 2 IA 2 SD 1 Ind/Others 9


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    #197
    is_that_so
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    Apparently a B&A poll in the Sunday Times tomorrow. Dropping this in from other thread.

    Just as a comparison, here's their last one from December. Notable here is the somewhat dubious support level for SF, given that the average support level for SF across all polls is 15%.
    FG 27 FF 27 SF 20 Lab 6 GR 6 PBP 2 IA 2 SD 1 Ind/Others 9


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    #198
    robman60
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    ButtersSuki wrote: »
    Big drop in FG % with the gap largely filled by FF gain coming in poll in tomorrow’s Sunday Times.

    Any exact figures?


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    #199
    is_that_so
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    robman60 wrote: »
    Any exact figures?
    Will probably emerge about teatime tonight.


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    #200
    ButtersSuki
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    robman60 wrote: »
    Any exact figures?

    FG to 20 (exact).
    FF to 30+ (don’t have exact).

    FWIW, poll was conducted before election was called.


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    #201
    is_that_so
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    Some of the slogans so far. I like the snappy, simple Green one!


    Fine Gael A future to look forward to
    Fianna Fáil An Ireland for all (Éire do chách)
    Labour Party Building an equal society
    Green Party Want Green, Vote Green


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    #202
    McMurphy
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    The bookies have FF well clear of FG according to their odds.

    Bookies conduct their own opinion polls too I assume?


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    #203
    An Ciarraioch
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    is_that_so wrote: »
    Apparently a B&A poll in the Sunday Times tomorrow. Dropping this in from other thread.

    Just as a comparison, here's their last one from December. Notable here is the somewhat dubious support level for SF, given that the average support level for SF across all polls is 15%.
    FG 27 FF 27 SF 20 Lab 6 GR 6 PBP 2 IA 2 SD 1 Ind/Others 9

    I presume Red C will also have one - they generally poll mid-month, even without an election.


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    #204
    ancapailldorcha
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    Mod: One-liner deleted.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



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    #205
    antimatterx
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    I think FG actually some fantastic female candidates Catherine Noone, Emer currie, Emer Higgins


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    #206
    Water John
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    One is looking for trends over time, esp within each pollster. The actual figure whilst important, the direction of the electorate is what is key, who is rising, who is falling.


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    #207
    L1011
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    This ensure that Renua can't somehow get state funding again next time, thankfully - probably couldn't get to 30% women if they ran every female member of the party!


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    #208
    sid waddell
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    L1011 wrote: »
    This ensure that Renua can't somehow get state funding again next time, thankfully - probably couldn't get to 30% women if they ran every female member of the party!
    They could decide to run a total of three candidates...


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    #209
    is_that_so
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    Water John wrote: »
    One is looking for trends over time, esp within each pollster. The actual figure whilst important, the direction of the electorate is what is key, who is rising, who is falling.
    And the level of Don't Knows. It tends to be near the last week when it falls to single figures. Anything over 20% at this stage is not very informative.


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    #210
    is_that_so
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    An Ciarraioch wrote: »
    I presume Red C will also have one - they generally poll mid-month, even without an election.
    I'd say we'll see themselves and IPSOS do polls over the next week or so. IPSOS tend to be midweek.


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    #211
    is_that_so
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    McMurphy wrote: »
    The bookies have FF well clear of FG according to their odds.

    Bookies conduct their own opinion polls too I assume?
    The odd Paddy Power one I think. Heavy betting will do that as well and FF have been talked about as (slight() favourites so you would expect people to pile into that.


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