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Racing 92 vs Munster, Sun 12th Jan 3:15pm, BT Sport

  • 11-01-2020 3:47pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭


    RACING 92
    15. Brice Dulin, 14. Teddy Thomas, 13. Virimi Vakatawa, 12. Henry Chavancy (c), 11. Juan Imhoff, 10. Finn Russell, 9. Teddy Iribaren,
    1. Eddy Ben Arous, 2. Camille Chat, 3. Ben Tameifuna, 4. Boris Palu, 5. Dominic Bird, 6. Wenceslas Lauret, 7. Bernard Le Roux, 8. Antonie Claassen.

    Replacements:
    16. Teddy Baubigny, 17. Hassane Kolingar, 18. Cedate Gomes Sa, 19. Donnacha Ryan, 20. Fabien Sanconnie, 21. Maxime Machenaud, 22. Ben Volavola, 23. Olivier Klemenczak,

    MUNSTER RUGBY
    15. Mike Haley, 14. Andrew Conway, 13. Chris Farrell, 12. Rory Scannell, 11. Keith Earls, 10. JJ Hanrahan, 9. Conor Murray,
    1. Dave Kilcoyne, 2. Niall Scannell, 3. Stephen Archer, 4. Jean Kleyn, 5. Billy Holland, 6. Peter O'Mahony (c), 7. Jack O'Donoghue, 8. CJ Stander.

    Replacements:
    16. Kevin O'Byrne, 17. Jeremy Loughman, 18. John Ryan, 19. Arno Botha, 20. Chris Cloete, 21. Craig Casey, 22. Dan Goggin, 23. Shane Daly,

    Referee: Wayne Barnes (England)

    AR1: Christophe Ridley (England)

    AR2: Paul Dix (England)

    TMO: Rowan Kitt (England)

    Pool 4 standings:
    Racing 17
    Saracens 14
    Munster 11
    Ospreys 2


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭Richie_Rich89


    Real look of knife to a gunfight off that Munster backrow. O'Donoghue is a fine 6/8 but doesn't appear to have the instincts of an openside. O'Mahony doesn't possess the physical tools for blindside. It would be much better in my opinion to put him at 7 and ask him to use his reading of the game to support play. Stander is such a hard worker, and can pull out inspirational moments, but he's not really a footballer, which is a problem from your number 8. Putting him in at blindside would be a better fit. He could get to work without having to make too many decisions.

    Winning the backrow battle is almost invariably key to any Irish success on the rugby field. I'm not sure this unit, in this configuration, has it in them to have enough positive influence. For me, 6. Stander, 7. POM, 8. Botha was the combination to go for, especially on this fast, fake pitch, where ball-carrying and winning momentum has heightened importance. You'd have another carrier to take the pressure off Stander (he's always better with another backrow carrier alongside him), and having two brutes with him would free up O'Mahony to concentrate on the cerebral stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,869 ✭✭✭Jump_In_Jack


    Would rather CJ 6, POM or Cloete 7 and JOD 8.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,902 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    Hate to say it but Munster could get absolutely hockeyed here.


  • Subscribers Posts: 42,170 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    mfceiling wrote: »
    Hate to say it but Munster could get absolutely hockeyed here.

    That's how I see it currently.

    Munster aren't playing well, finding it hard to score tries (7 so far versus Ospreys 11 is embarrassing)

    If racing open up it could be very ugly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,738 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Will require a massive performance from Munster to keep this a close game. Bench isn't exactly the strongest either if things start to go pear-shaped, the decision to go without a lock could turn out to be a big one.

    I think they have it in them but will need everything to go right and bank on their defence.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,902 ✭✭✭budhabob


    Would rather CJ 6, POM or Cloete 7 and JOD 8.

    Personally I don't want cloete anywhere near a medium important game, let alone a season defining one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,902 ✭✭✭budhabob


    For some reason I feel like a win is on the cards today, even given the clear disadvantage in terms of teams named.

    Probably just supporter mist, but still, I'm calling a Munster win now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,018 ✭✭✭Bridge93


    Munster by 3. Racing as expected with the named teams to have all the eye catching moments etc but munster with their defence to cling on. Racing brilliant yet flaky and Munster to pick off their inevitable mistakes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭yerrahbah


    I'll believe JJ is starting when I see him on the field at kick off


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Donnacha Ryan out.

    Big loss to not have him out there starting.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,902 ✭✭✭budhabob


    Donnacha Ryan out.

    Big loss to not have him out there starting.

    Great news


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Nervous about this one but a win isn't beyond Munster. Intensity needs to be there for 80 minutes and the pack need to give JJ some time on the ball and breathing room.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,906 ✭✭✭✭PhlegmyMoses


    Benjamin Kaysar has strikingly good English for a Frenchie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    Benjamin Kaysar has strikingly good English for a Frenchie.

    He played for Leicester for a few season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,906 ✭✭✭✭PhlegmyMoses


    Buer wrote: »
    He played for Leicester for a few season.

    Yeah, I think it is more the lack of a strong french accent maybe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,515 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    LOL. Barnes trying to make the scrum mark with his studs. Welcome to artificial turf Wayne.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,709 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    My missus just goes "Dulin, du Vin, du Boursin"

    Lol.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,697 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    There was zero need for Russell to take that quickly. Was also a poor pass. Died a death just before it reached the recipient.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    Clegg wrote: »
    There was zero need for Russell to take that quickly. Was also a poor pass. Died a death just before it reached the recipient.

    Ah, it was into his hands and he didn't have to reach. Player was looking downfield as ball reached him.

    Munster have started just how they need. Strangle this for a bit with a couple of three pointers and Racing will Racing.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Exactly the start Munster needed.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 391 ✭✭Professor Genius


    Murray is an awful weak point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,738 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Strange to hear a French crowd go quiet for a kicker


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,384 ✭✭✭Panda Killa


    0-6..keep grinding...I'll take a tight game all day long!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    Murray is an awful weak point.

    He's not. He put in a poor kick. Before that he had a very good opening 10 minutes and ran the show for Munster's drive leading to the first score.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,902 ✭✭✭budhabob


    Buer wrote: »
    He's not. He put in a poor kick. Before that he had a very good opening 10 minutes and ran the show for Munster's drive leading to the first score.
    This!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    Munster get the next score and I don't see Racing really getting into the game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,697 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Munster doing what Ulster should have done yesterday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,902 ✭✭✭budhabob


    If JJs hamstrung is ok after some of the tackles he's been involved in he's the finest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,697 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    That's garbage from Kleyn.

    Idiot.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,906 ✭✭✭✭PhlegmyMoses


    Idiotic from Kleyn


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 391 ✭✭Professor Genius


    Kleyn you donkey


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,515 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    Murray is an awful weak point.

    Not really. The weak link for me is scannell at 12. Wouldn’t be out of place on a league pitch. Munster could really do with a more creative inside centre.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 560 ✭✭✭mark_jmc


    Absolutely criminal from kleyn


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    Clegg wrote: »
    That's garbage from Kleyn.

    Idiot.

    Why s he shaking his head. It was clearcut


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,085 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Muppet


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30 Dunney848


    Murray varying the point of attack well with skip passes off the base. Looking very good today


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 391 ✭✭Professor Genius


    mark_jmc wrote: »
    Absolutely criminal from kleyn

    Ultimately for Munster to become successful again they will need to de-southafricanize completely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,075 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    POM invisible as usual


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,906 ✭✭✭✭PhlegmyMoses


    Russell has to release that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,902 ✭✭✭budhabob


    Ultimately for Munster to become successful again they will need to de-southafricanize completely.
    Bull**** comment


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,420 ✭✭✭theVersatile


    leakyboots wrote: »
    POM invisible as usual

    Well timed comment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,902 ✭✭✭budhabob


    Unreal tracking and tackle by POM. Hopefully didn't get injured in the process


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,738 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    budhabob wrote: »
    Bull**** comment

    Don't bother biting, you're just giving them the attention they crave.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,902 ✭✭✭budhabob


    Don't bother biting, you're just giving them the attention they crave.

    Fair point, well made


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 391 ✭✭Professor Genius


    Good use of scannells big boot there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,599 ✭✭✭ScrubsfanChris


    Farrell is having a mare in defense. Handed off about 3 times now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,906 ✭✭✭✭PhlegmyMoses


    Video director is annoying here. Would rather see a wider angle more often and keeps panning to the crowd and missing lineouts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,697 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Ultimately for Munster to become successful again they will need to de-southafricanize completely.

    Not so much get rid of South African players but rather get rid of mediocre South African players. Stander and Coetzee at Ulster are examples of players that add a lot to the provinces. But there are others that haven't reached the mark.

    Cloete is a good poacher, but that's the only notable part of his game. And Kleyn is a lump that hits hard and that's it. One of the more pointless Ireland caps in recent memory.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 391 ✭✭Professor Genius


    Why is Earls so slow? Is he injured if have the wheels just gone with age?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 391 ✭✭Professor Genius


    Clegg wrote: »
    Not so much get rid of South African players but rather get rid of mediocre South African players. Stander and Coetzee at Ulster are examples of players that add a lot to the provinces. But there are others that haven't reached the mark.

    Cloete is a good poacher, but that's the only notable part of his game. And Kleyn is a lump that hits hard and that's it. One of the more pointless Ireland caps in recent memory.

    Well I would also include the Saffer management


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