What would happen if Ireland left the EU?

MichaelKnee

As in years 1-5?

Seth Brundle

Years 1-5 following an exit?
We'd be fecked completely after a month!

antimatterx

We would become irrelevant

endacl

We’d sink into the Atlantic under the weight of sheer idiocy if we’d enough voters who’d choose to leave.

FrancieBrady

Cryptocurrency would want to spontaneously combust.




*But because of EU regulations he would probably just spontaneously smoulder.

mikemac2

Back to the days of exporting cattle and young people

"We can't all live on a small island" - Brian Lenihan Sr

theguzman

We would regain sovereignty, housing prices and rents would come down as thousands of economic migrants would leave. The country might become affordable again and sensible people would actually have a say on our future. We would have law and order again, reintroduce he death penalty by hanging and clean up Dublin by executing johnno and deco with their 200 convictions. Will it happen? absolutely not because the pigs at the trough at the top are benefiting too much. The EU was hurting the British elite which was why they left, but it is benefiting our corrupt bourgeoisie.

RobbingBandit

Too much depends on EU grants in this country farming community would collapse without the subsidies from EU.

theguzman

theguzman wrote: »

We would regain sovereignty, housing prices and rents would come down as thousands of economic migrants would leave. The country might become affordable again and sensible people would actually have a say on our future. We would have law and order again, reintroduce he death penalty by hanging and clean up Dublin by executing johnno and deco with their 200 convictions. Will it happen? absolutely not because the pigs at the trough at the top are benefiting too much. The EU was hurting the British elite which was why they left, but it is benefiting our corrupt bourgeoisie.

The Daily Mail is seeking a new editor.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

We'd take a retrograde step back 47 years. Having lived in that place I wouldn't wish it on anybody.

xlogo

We'll be all smoking in the pubs again

Seth Brundle

theguzman wrote: »

We would regain sovereignty, housing prices and rents would come down as thousands of economic migrants would leave. The country might become affordable again and sensible people would actually have a say on our future. We would have law and order again, reintroduce he death penalty by hanging and clean up Dublin by executing johnno and deco with their 200 convictions. Will it happen? absolutely not because the pigs at the trough at the top are benefiting too much. The EU was hurting the British elite which was why they left, but it is benefiting our corrupt bourgeoisie.

Forgot your meds again?

James Brown

FG won't have to fight for Apple to keep their 13bn owed in tax.

ChikiChiki

theguzman wrote: »

We would regain sovereignty, housing prices and rents would come down as thousands of economic migrants would leave. The country might become affordable again and sensible people would actually have a say on our future. We would have law and order again, reintroduce he death penalty by hanging and clean up Dublin by executing johnno and deco with their 200 convictions. Will it happen? absolutely not because the pigs at the trough at the top are benefiting too much. The EU was hurting the British elite which was why they left, but it is benefiting our corrupt bourgeoisie.

And where would we all work?

I'm under no illusions. Ireland was an absolute poverty stricken backwater prior to the EU.

A competent Govt would easily relieve a lot of the problems we have in society today including housing.

SEPT 23 1989

A wetter version of the Caymen Islands

Wanderer78

theguzman wrote:

We would regain sovereignty, housing prices and rents would come down as thousands of economic migrants would leave. The country might become affordable again and sensible people would actually have a say on our future. We would have law and order again, reintroduce he death penalty by hanging and clean up Dublin by executing johnno and deco with their 200 convictions. Will it happen? absolutely not because the pigs at the trough at the top are benefiting too much. The EU was hurting the British elite which was why they left, but it is benefiting our corrupt bourgeoisie.

Hahaha, hahaha, hahaha, hahaha, ffs

4068ac1elhodqr

Pointless asking in current context. Ireland is only 6th or 7th or so favourite, to leave.
More likely is Italy, Greece, Austria, Poland/Hungy and Sweden/Denmark - Thus ask again after they leave.

A Nordic alliance (Norway possibly too) + a the V4 alliance combined (maybe along with the Italians, even Germany) could happen 2040.
By then the rest of the Med coud be suffering with a global recession, automation, mass migration and euro-debt from the WB6/Turkey.

FrancieBrady

If we left we could do a trade deal with the UK!!

Kermit.de.frog

The way Ireland was 50 years a go is not because we weren't in the EU - it's because of the type of government and society we had.

Small sovereign countries can do very well on their own and we are far better governed and a more open society now.

I think we will have decisions to make on the EU in the next 10 - 20 years - it is heading toward a superstate and I can't see a majority of Irish people wanting that.

People praise the EU for everything here. A lot of the growth in the country would have happened regardless.

The way people go on about the EU you'd think we needed it just to breath.

Nonsense.

That's not to say there are no positives to EU membership but as more and more power is taken from our country those benefits are reducing fast.

James Brown

The Senate would need be expanded to facility all the former TD's looking for a handy one.

Boredstiff666

antimatterx wrote: »

We would become irrelevant

Ireland is.

Boredstiff666

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

The way Ireland was 50 years a go is not because we weren't in the EU - it's because of the type of government and society we had.

Small sovereign countries can do very well on their own and we are far better governed and a more open society now.

I think we will have decisions to make on the EU in the next 10 - 20 years - it is heading toward a superstate and I can't see a majority of Irish people wanting that.

People praise the EU for everything here. A lot of the growth in the country would have happened regardless.

The way people go on about the EU you'd think we needed it just to breath.

Nonsense.

That's not to say there are no positives to EU membership but as more and more power is taken from our country those benefits are reducing fast.

I have a feeling all those decisions will be taken for Ireland by events.

Seth Brundle

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

People praise the EU for everything here. A lot of the growth in the country would have happened regardless.

Name one foreign multinational here currently that would have had as large a presence in Ireland had we not been in the EU

4068ac1elhodqr

As a last resort/opportunity become the 51st state of the US (Greenland can wait).
Free beach condo in Miami for everyone, or alternatively can takes your chances on a free 6-bed 'fixer-uppper' in Detroit.
Downside: Chlorinated chicken. Upside: Fill up your new 3.0L or v12 for nothing.

Boredstiff666

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Name one foreign multinational here currently that would have had as large a presence in Ireland had we not been in the EU

And you forgot the money the Gov borrowed and gave them for their factories etc which we then pay for.

Multinationals come here for access to EU and British markets. They can leave tomorrow if it suits them to the UK or another EU country........just as any other business can.

Kermit.de.frog

Boredstiff666 wrote: »

I have a feeling all those decisions will be taken for Ireland by events.

Ireland is a sovereign country - it can leave the EU tomorrow if it wants.

Just like every other EU country.

But there is little point in doing that unless other countries leave or we'd end up like the UK which is going to be a colony of the EU member states.

They will be taking the rules with no say at all.

We don't want to end up there.

My concern is that the EU, if the elites continue pushing ever closer union, will descend ultimately in to separatism based on violence.

Boredstiff666

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Ireland is a sovereign country - it can leave the EU tomorrow if it wants.

Just like every other EU country.

But there is little point in doing that unless other countries leave or we'd end up like the UK which is going to be a colony of the EU member states.

They will be taking the rules with no say at all.

We don't want to end up there.

Yeah right on brother you keep banging that drum. You convinced yourself anyways.

Kermit.de.frog

Boredstiff666 wrote: »

Yeah right on brother you keep banging that drum. You convinced yourself anyways.

The UK will abide by EU rules or it won't trade.

Same as every other country in the EU's orbit.

Don't like it, we won't trade with you.

It's uncomfortable being on the margins of the club.

Boredstiff666

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

The UK will abide by EU rules or it won't trade.

Same as every other country in the EU's orbit.

Don't like it, we won't trade with you.

It's uncomfortable being on the margins of the club.

Ok sit down and just wait. Only a matter of weeks now.

If life were that simple I would easily win with the magic numbers I just picked for tonight.

MoashoaM

the japanese would eat us alive

SEPT 23 1989

We never could stand on our own two feet for very long because of the trough swilling gombeen class in this country

Maybe it’s better this way

Boredstiff666

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

We never could stand on our own two feet for very long because of the trough swilling gombeen class in this country

Maybe it’s better this way

Perhaps something like that needs to happen so we can have a clear out?

Seth Brundle

Boredstiff666 wrote: »

And you forgot the money the Gov borrowed and gave them for their factories etc which we then pay for.

Multinationals come here for access to EU and British markets. They can leave tomorrow if it suits them to the UK or another EU country........just as any other business can.

Bad as they may be, can you or anyone name one foreifn multinational that would have established themselves here in the same way or are all the anti-EU naysayers just full of crap?

Another way if looking at what you said is that these companies are here employing people because were in the EU. So if we left...?

Boredstiff666

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Bad as they may be, can you or anyone name one foreifn multinational that would have established themselves here in the same way or are all the anti-EU naysayers just full of crap?

Another way if looking at what you said is that these companies are here employing people because were in the EU. So if we left...?

No

Kermit.de.frog

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Bad as they may be, can you or anyone name one foreifn multinational that would have established themselves here in the same way or are all the anti-EU naysayers just full of crap?

Another way if looking at what you said is that these companies are here employing people because were in the EU. So if we left...?

Most be terrible being Singapore or Iceland or Switzerland or Norway....

Oh wait...

storker

ChikiChiki wrote: »

A competent Govt would easily relieve a lot of the problems we have in society today including housing.

That's crazy talk. Don't you know that all economic and social problems are the fault of the EU? Without the meddlesome EU, Ireland today would still be the modern, forward-looking, technologically-advanced, secular, prosperous society it was before.

KWAG2019

Before EU entry the country was just beginning to establish a type of modern economy. The years after The Civil War were taken up with establishing new state bodies and the great initiative of Ard na Crusha. The 30’s saw the consequences of 1929 and the economic war and then WW2 came. The Marshall plan began to show the way and in the late 50’s we began to plan for FDI which through the 60’s began to improve the country.

In short, the country had been managed as a colony by the Brits to supply cheap food to its cities and low skilled Labour to its industry and cannon fodder for its armed forces. Independence couldn’t end that overnight and international crises repeatedly derailed development. The country was impoverished with huge emigration.

Membership of the EU changed that completely which is why the EU has such approval here. So far. Ireland outside the EU again is not unthinkable. It’s a religious faith for some to deny that but that’s all it is. The real answer will be the deal the Brits get, the effects on other EU states and whether the Brits prosper more outside. All assuming we still have a functioning planet.

Boredstiff666

storker wrote: »

That's crazy talk. Don't you know that all economic and social problems are the fault of the EU? Without the meddlesome EU, Ireland today would still be the modern, forward-looking, technologically-advanced, secular, prosperous society it was before.

But it will end sooner or later so accept the change. I think it will be soon but thats just me.

CrankyHaus

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Most be terrible being Singapore or Iceland or Switzerland or Norway....

Oh wait...

This comment highlights the hyperbole of most responses.

We'd most likely remain in EFTA, which would prevent the worst economic impacts of leaving. However we'd have no influence over the EU trading rules that we'd be bound by. In time we would probably find the EU change the rules we currently profit the most from. On the whole it would be bad, probably very bad. But the immediate rip in the space-time continuum hypothesized by many here is just pro-EU hysteria based on the servile myth that all development in this country since 1973 is solely owed to the EU.

Boredstiff666

CrankyHaus wrote: »

This comment highlights the hyperbole of most responses.

We'd most likely remain in EFTA, which would prevent the worst economic impacts of leaving. However we'd have no influence over the EU trading rules that we'd be bound by. In time we would probably find the EU change the rules we currently profit the most from. On the whole it would be bad, probably very bad. But the immediate rip in the space-time continuum hypothesized by many here is just pro-EU hysteria based on the servile myth that all development in this country since 1973 is solely owed to the EU.

There comes a time where things change and the benefits may disappear or other things may appear more attractive. There comes a time where you have to draw a line and forget the past and go with what has now presented itself.

I think that time is spinning towards us.

kowloon

theguzman wrote: »

We would regain sovereignty, housing prices and rents would come down as thousands of economic migrants would leave. The country might become affordable again and sensible people would actually have a say on our future. We would have law and order again, reintroduce he death penalty by hanging and clean up Dublin by executing johnno and deco with their 200 convictions. Will it happen? absolutely not because the pigs at the trough at the top are benefiting too much. The EU was hurting the British elite which was why they left, but it is benefiting our corrupt bourgeoisie.

How very Travis Bickle. Do you fantasize about killing people you see as worthless and being the big hero?

TCM

Nobody has a clue.

LaFuton

one day a real rain will come

Jurgen Klopp

For all the multinationals here cause we are in the EU it will be interesting given other members like France are constantly moaning about our corporation tax rate

It would be interesting to see what would/will happen if the rates are harmonised across the EU

Frankly I don't believe for a second most wouldn't want to set up bang in the middle of the continent if the financial incentive was gone to be here

This craic about our "educated workforce" it's not as if Germany or France doesn't have that.

I can see being an English speaking nation being a benefit for US companies but would that really be enough given there would be a lot to be saved perhaps on logistics if located on the continent versus here?

nthclare

Most of the people who have it reasonably ok will be brought down to earth, probably living on 20 euros a week after their mortgages and bills etc

People working in hospitality and tourism will be the new IT crowd as in it'll be sexy to be tour guide, chef, b&b owner etc

Public sector people will be able to get by ok too.

But all the industry and cooperative jobs will be diminished.
Especially Google Facebook etc
Anything to do with pulling the wool over the masses eyes especially jobs like Quality assurance engineers, I think they've the most boring jobs ever, it'll give them a chance to re-educate themselves.

Parkland jobs such as gardener's and grounds men will be back again when people start to go to parks and woodlands and phones will become a hindrance, I already leave my phone at home a lot.

Buying ****e in those retail parks will diminish again as being frugal will get more popular.

Fiacra who used to be working in the top IT company will end up working in the electrical section in Tescos and he'll still have a cool title.
He'll still make himself look cool.

A lot of people will leave their partners and match up with the people they find funny and attractive, that's happening to a lot of people in their 40's already actually.

There will be a lot of empty retail parks that's for sure.

storker

Boredstiff666 wrote: »

But it will end sooner or later so accept the change. I think it will be soon but thats just me.

Yes, I believe it is...

swarlb

antimatterx wrote: »

We would become irrelevant

We are already.... it'd just be 'official'....

ancapailldorcha

Tiana Aggressive Scorpion wrote: »

We'd take a retrograde step back 47 years. Having lived in that place I wouldn't wish it on anybody.

I think you're one of the older posters here (no offence intended). Was it really that bad?

WesternZulu

nthclare wrote: »

Most of the people who have it reasonably ok will be brought down to earth, probably living on 20 euros a week after their mortgages and bills etc

People working in hospitality and tourism will be the new IT crowd as in it'll be sexy to be tour guide, chef, b&b owner etc

Public sector people will be able to get by ok too.

But all the industry and cooperative jobs will be diminished.
Especially Google Facebook etc
Anything to do with pulling the wool over the masses eyes especially jobs like Quality assurance engineers, I think they've the most boring jobs ever, it'll give them a chance to re-educate themselves.

Parkland jobs such as gardener's and grounds men will be back again when people start to go to parks and woodlands and phones will become a hindrance, I already leave my phone at home a lot.

Buying ****e in those retail parks will diminish again as being frugal will get more popular.

Fiacra who used to be working in the top IT company will end up working in the electrical section in Tescos and he'll still have a cool title.
He'll still make himself look cool.

A lot of people will leave their partners and match up with the people they find funny and attractive, that's happening to a lot of people in their 40's already actually.

There will be a lot of empty retail parks that's for sure.

Sounds miserable!

Guy:Incognito

Matt Barrett wrote: »

FG won't have to fight for Apple to keep their 13bn owed in tax.

You mean fg wont have to fight to not admit the country broke the law and gave state aid to a company?

pinkyeye

nthclare wrote: »

Most of the people who have it reasonably ok will be brought down to earth, probably living on 20 euros a week after their mortgages and bills etc

People working in hospitality and tourism will be the new IT crowd as in it'll be sexy to be tour guide, chef, b&b owner etc

Public sector people will be able to get by ok too.

But all the industry and cooperative jobs will be diminished.
Especially Google Facebook etc
Anything to do with pulling the wool over the masses eyes especially jobs like Quality assurance engineers, I think they've the most boring jobs ever, it'll give them a chance to re-educate themselves.

Parkland jobs such as gardener's and grounds men will be back again when people start to go to parks and woodlands and phones will become a hindrance, I already leave my phone at home a lot.

Buying ****e in those retail parks will diminish again as being frugal will get more popular.

Fiacra who used to be working in the top IT company will end up working in the electrical section in Tescos and he'll still have a cool title.
He'll still make himself look cool.

A lot of people will leave their partners and match up with the people they find funny and attractive, that's happening to a lot of people in their 40's already actually.

There will be a lot of empty retail parks that's for sure.

People will leave their partners because we've left the EU?

You've lost me there.