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Ulster vs Munster, Fri 3 Jan, 7:35pm, Eir

  • 02-01-2020 12:00pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Ulster:
    (15-9) Will Addison, Robert Baloucoune, Luke Marshall, Stuart McCloskey, Jacob Stockdale, Billy Burns, John Cooney.

    (1-8) Jack McGrath, Rob Herring, Marty Moore, Alan O'Connor, Iain Henderson (Capt.), Matthew Rea, Sean Reidy, Nick Timoney.

    Replacements: John Andrew, Kyle McCall, Tom O'Toole, David O'Connor, Greg Jones, David Shanahan, Bill Johnston, Craig Gilroy.

    Munster:
    Shane Daly; Andrew Conway, Sammy Arnold, Rory Scannell, Keith Earls; Joey Carbery, Conor Murray;
    Jeremy Loughman, Niall Scannell, Keynan Knox; Fineen Wycherley, Darren O’Shea; Peter O’Mahony (C), Jack O’Donoghue, Arno Botha.

    Replacements: Diarmuid Barron, Dave Kilcoyne, John Ryan, Gavin Coombes, Jack O’Sullivan, Neil Cronin, Dan Goggin, Chris Cloete.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,738 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭yerrahbah


    yerrahbah wrote: »
    https://www.munsterrugby.ie/2019/12/31/squad-update-ahead-of-ulster/

    JJ, TO'D and KO'B need scans for injuries

    Killer, Cloete and Coombes ok to train this week, with Ryan expected to join in later in the week

    Possible Team vs Ulster

    Loughman, Scannell, Knox, Whycherly, DO'S, POM, Cloete, Botha, Murray, Carbery, Earls, Goggin, Arnold, Conway, Daly

    13/15 dammit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    This has the potential to be a belter. Two serious lineups.

    Daly starts at fullback and looks to have a chance to retain that jersey for the month. Big opportunity for Keynan Knox at TH.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,738 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Ulster have the edge in the front five I think, but Munster probably have a stronger back row. Both backlines are near full strength with the exception of Daly at FB, so should be a cracker of a game I think.

    I'm going to say Ulster by 5.


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    Decent teams, looking forward to this. I don't know who that Baloucoune chap is but he sounds like a solid defender.


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  • Administrators Posts: 54,424 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    I approve of these selections.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Decent teams, looking forward to this. I don't know who that Baloucoune chap is but he sounds like a solid defender.

    He could be as good as that poisonous Lowe guy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,838 ✭✭✭theboss80


    This should be a belter I'd say, both strong teams and weather is forecast to be dry.




  • Ooh this is tasty, looking forward to it. Munster looking at a fairly poor set of interpros if they lose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,857 ✭✭✭shootermacg


    That's a serious Ulster selection. A LBP and no injuries would be a good result for Munster.

    Don't agree with Munster's 6/2 split though. I wouldn't be looking to play Joey for the full 80.

    There's going to be a lot of beef in the Ulster back line, so looks like injuries may result.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭yerrahbah


    Good news on the injury front with Andrew Conway, Joey Carbery, Peter O’Mahony , Dave Kilcoyne, John Ryan, Gavin Coombes and Chris Cloete all available after various injuries

    Good to see young players like Shane Daly; Keynan Knox; Fineen Wycherley, Diarmuid Barron, Gavin Coombes and Jack O’Sullivan all in the squad


    Would be looking to see big performances from Sammy Arnold and Darren O’Shea


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭yerrahbah


    That's a serious Ulster selection. A LBP and no injuries would be a good result for Munster.

    Don't agree with Munster's 6/2 split though. I wouldn't be looking to play Joey for the full 80.

    There's going to be a lot of beef in the Ulster back line, so looks like injuries may result.

    Rory Scannell could slot into 10 if needed


  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    That's a serious Ulster selection. A LBP and no injuries would be a good result for Munster.

    Don't agree with Munster's 6/2 split though. I wouldn't be looking to play Joey for the full 80.

    There's going to be a lot of beef in the Ulster back line, so looks like injuries may result.

    I imagine Scannell is the replacement 10, but agree on the whole about the 6/2. I don’t like it in general.

    This has the potential to be a cracking game. Cooney going up against Murray is his chance to go from putting his hand up to telling Andy Farrell that’s he’s the number one 9.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,876 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Two good sides but I worry about the back row. I think Munster have an advantage there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,876 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Cooney and Burns v Murray and Carbery will be fascinating.

    Balacoune is surely destined to make a match defining defensive error!




  • bilston wrote: »
    Two good sides but I worry about the back row. I think Munster have an advantage there.

    The Munster front 5 isn't great either which could be a bigger issue for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,295 ✭✭✭slingerz


    This has the potential to be a belter. Two serious lineups.

    Daly starts at fullback and looks to have a chance to retain that jersey for the month. Big opportunity for Keynan Knox at TH.

    Haley will be FB next week. Daly will be hoping to get into the 23


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,710 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Are Casey or Ben Healy injured? Seems like a bit of a missed opportunity there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,295 ✭✭✭slingerz


    Clegg wrote: »
    Are Casey or Ben Healy injured? Seems like a bit of a missed opportunity there.

    they select the games they are going to be involved in. Casey and Healy wouldnt be part of european squads generally. they should see gametime in February i would expect


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭yerrahbah


    Clegg wrote: »
    Are Casey or Ben Healy injured? Seems like a bit of a missed opportunity there.

    Priority would be getting the team ready for next week.

    Carbery and Murray need minutes.

    If picking a 6-2 split then you need your sub back that isnt the SH to be versatile

    You could argue for Casey to be selected over Cronin on the bench alright


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭mogwai81


    It’s great for the likes of Daly, Wycherley and to a lesser extent Baloucoune to start a game with such experience players around them instead of a team of inexperienced players.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,767 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    With the better front five, the Ulster Connors in Reidy and the better backline I fancy Ulster to win this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,602 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    mogwai81 wrote: »
    It’s great for the likes of Daly, Wycherley and to a lesser extent Baloucoune to start a game with such experience players around them instead of a team of inexperienced players.

    Baloucoune played in three Euro games last season, including the QF against Leinster. He's well used to being the least experienced player on the pitch in big games.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,876 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    molloyjh wrote: »
    With the better front five, the Ulster Connors in Reidy and the better backline I fancy Ulster to win this.

    Coetzee and Murphy are big misses for us.

    It's a big chance for Reidy and Rea though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,906 ✭✭✭budhabob


    Based on the lineups can't see anything but an Ulster win. Looking forward to seeing the Munster team though to see how they go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    That's 8 of the Munster team that will start next weekend. If they can get close to parity in the set piece, this game is anyone's.

    Games are often won by the players who occupy the 6-10 jerseys as they dictate a lot of the game. When you look at those line ups, you'd have to say Munster are probably slightly stronger there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,857 ✭✭✭shootermacg


    Buer wrote: »
    That's 8 of the Munster team that will start next weekend. If they can get close to parity in the set piece, this game is anyone's.

    Games are often won by the players who occupy the 6-10 jerseys as they dictate a lot of the game. When you look at those line ups, you'd have to say Munster are probably slightly stronger there.

    I think for these games, you'd just look at the combinations.

    front five = Ulster
    back row = Munster
    9/10 hard to call, Munster 9/10 haven't played much rugby together, Ulster may edge it.
    12/13 = Ulster, Arnold at fault for Leinster's try last week
    back 3 = Ulster, Ulster will probably fancy their back 3

    Hard to see Ulster losing this game at home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭Richie_Rich89


    Munster have the better individuals in the backrow, but they still have a 6/8 who isn't the first relation of a natural openside at 7, and O'Mahony has never possessed the physicality blindside demands. Reidy is a much better openside than O'Donoghue. Munster's loose trio would look far more balanced if they switched the flankers. Of course, that's still the same individuals playing, but I think switching them would help give clarity about who should be doing what. The best composite backrow out of all the players selected would probably be 6. JOD, 7. POM (although Reidy's close), 8. Botha, but as they've been selected, it's probably 6. Rea/O'Mahony (tie), 7. Reidy, 8. Botha.

    The worry for Ulster is that DOS, JOD and POM will get into their lineout. Ulster's lineout looked shaky against Connacht. That's Munster's route into the game, you'd have to think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Cooney vs Murray will get a lot of attention tonight.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭yerrahbah


    Would like to see the Munster backs get their hands on the ball a bit more often than we saw last week


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,946 ✭✭✭ionadnapokot


    Cooney vs Murray will get a lot of attention tonight.

    I expect Murray to attempt a few more breaks from the ruck tonight.

    I feel that has been the best part of Clooney's game - “heads up rugby”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Poor McGrath must have been running through mud wearing flippers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,253 ✭✭✭Boscoirl


    The constant noise from Mark Robson is nauseating


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,079 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    Great turnover on the ground by POM after that McGrath break


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,079 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    razorblunt wrote: »
    Poor McGrath must have been running through mud wearing flippers.

    It was Ross Byrne-esque alright!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,079 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    Daly is such an exciting prospect, lovely delayed passes from Murray and Joey


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Very clever by Loughman there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,079 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    Maul defence this season has been superb, well done Wycherley


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    Poor support from the forwards when McGrath broke along with a bit of indecision from him and bammo, try.

    Munster have momentum now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,079 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    Clear hands on the ground first there I thought


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Twas but to be fair they almost always are nowadays.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,079 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    Lovely Ulster try there


  • Subscribers Posts: 42,171 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Earls stepped too early there


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Come on camera man, where is the close up of Murray for dramatic effect...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,455 ✭✭✭Dave_The_Sheep


    Earls won't be happy with himself there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,207 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Super timed pass from Stockdale...nice try.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Robson falling over himself to protect Cooney after two poor box kicks. No wind there, he’s allowed a few miss kicks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,018 ✭✭✭Bridge93


    Imagine if Ruan Pienaar has been allowed stay forever. King Cooney would never have emerged


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Think Carbery came through the gate there and just ended up to the side.

    Ref missed a few offsides tho so balances out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    MCClosky also in at the side after passing to Marshall. Not as blatant as Joey.


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