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Ulster vs Munster, Fri 3 Jan, 7:35pm, Eir

  • 02-01-2020 1:00pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭ thomond2006


    Ulster:
    (15-9) Will Addison, Robert Baloucoune, Luke Marshall, Stuart McCloskey, Jacob Stockdale, Billy Burns, John Cooney.

    (1-8) Jack McGrath, Rob Herring, Marty Moore, Alan O'Connor, Iain Henderson (Capt.), Matthew Rea, Sean Reidy, Nick Timoney.

    Replacements: John Andrew, Kyle McCall, Tom O'Toole, David O'Connor, Greg Jones, David Shanahan, Bill Johnston, Craig Gilroy.

    Munster:
    Shane Daly; Andrew Conway, Sammy Arnold, Rory Scannell, Keith Earls; Joey Carbery, Conor Murray;
    Jeremy Loughman, Niall Scannell, Keynan Knox; Fineen Wycherley, Darren O’Shea; Peter O’Mahony (C), Jack O’Donoghue, Arno Botha.

    Replacements: Diarmuid Barron, Dave Kilcoyne, John Ryan, Gavin Coombes, Jack O’Sullivan, Neil Cronin, Dan Goggin, Chris Cloete.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 21,035 ✭✭✭✭ Squidgy Black




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭ yerrahbah


    yerrahbah wrote: »
    https://www.munsterrugby.ie/2019/12/31/squad-update-ahead-of-ulster/

    JJ, TO'D and KO'B need scans for injuries

    Killer, Cloete and Coombes ok to train this week, with Ryan expected to join in later in the week

    Possible Team vs Ulster

    Loughman, Scannell, Knox, Whycherly, DO'S, POM, Cloete, Botha, Murray, Carbery, Earls, Goggin, Arnold, Conway, Daly

    13/15 dammit


  • Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭ thomond2006


    This has the potential to be a belter. Two serious lineups.

    Daly starts at fullback and looks to have a chance to retain that jersey for the month. Big opportunity for Keynan Knox at TH.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,035 ✭✭✭✭ Squidgy Black


    Ulster have the edge in the front five I think, but Munster probably have a stronger back row. Both backlines are near full strength with the exception of Daly at FB, so should be a cracker of a game I think.

    I'm going to say Ulster by 5.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,230 ✭✭✭✭ Venjur


    Decent teams, looking forward to this. I don't know who that Baloucoune chap is but he sounds like a solid defender.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 49,407 CMod ✭✭✭✭ awec


    I approve of these selections.


  • Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭ thomond2006


    Venjur wrote: »
    Decent teams, looking forward to this. I don't know who that Baloucoune chap is but he sounds like a solid defender.

    He could be as good as that poisonous Lowe guy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,834 ✭✭✭ theboss80


    This should be a belter I'd say, both strong teams and weather is forecast to be dry.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,715 ✭✭✭✭ Interested Observer


    Ooh this is tasty, looking forward to it. Munster looking at a fairly poor set of interpros if they lose.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,775 ✭✭✭ shootermacg


    That's a serious Ulster selection. A LBP and no injuries would be a good result for Munster.

    Don't agree with Munster's 6/2 split though. I wouldn't be looking to play Joey for the full 80.

    There's going to be a lot of beef in the Ulster back line, so looks like injuries may result.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭ yerrahbah


    Good news on the injury front with Andrew Conway, Joey Carbery, Peter O’Mahony , Dave Kilcoyne, John Ryan, Gavin Coombes and Chris Cloete all available after various injuries

    Good to see young players like Shane Daly; Keynan Knox; Fineen Wycherley, Diarmuid Barron, Gavin Coombes and Jack O’Sullivan all in the squad


    Would be looking to see big performances from Sammy Arnold and Darren O’Shea


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭ yerrahbah


    That's a serious Ulster selection. A LBP and no injuries would be a good result for Munster.

    Don't agree with Munster's 6/2 split though. I wouldn't be looking to play Joey for the full 80.

    There's going to be a lot of beef in the Ulster back line, so looks like injuries may result.

    Rory Scannell could slot into 10 if needed


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,743 ✭✭✭✭ Faugheen


    That's a serious Ulster selection. A LBP and no injuries would be a good result for Munster.

    Don't agree with Munster's 6/2 split though. I wouldn't be looking to play Joey for the full 80.

    There's going to be a lot of beef in the Ulster back line, so looks like injuries may result.

    I imagine Scannell is the replacement 10, but agree on the whole about the 6/2. I don’t like it in general.

    This has the potential to be a cracking game. Cooney going up against Murray is his chance to go from putting his hand up to telling Andy Farrell that’s he’s the number one 9.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,218 ✭✭✭✭ bilston


    Two good sides but I worry about the back row. I think Munster have an advantage there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,218 ✭✭✭✭ bilston


    Cooney and Burns v Murray and Carbery will be fascinating.

    Balacoune is surely destined to make a match defining defensive error!


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,715 ✭✭✭✭ Interested Observer


    bilston wrote: »
    Two good sides but I worry about the back row. I think Munster have an advantage there.

    The Munster front 5 isn't great either which could be a bigger issue for them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,167 ✭✭✭ slingerz


    This has the potential to be a belter. Two serious lineups.

    Daly starts at fullback and looks to have a chance to retain that jersey for the month. Big opportunity for Keynan Knox at TH.

    Haley will be FB next week. Daly will be hoping to get into the 23


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,261 ✭✭✭✭ Clegg


    Are Casey or Ben Healy injured? Seems like a bit of a missed opportunity there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,167 ✭✭✭ slingerz


    Clegg wrote: »
    Are Casey or Ben Healy injured? Seems like a bit of a missed opportunity there.

    they select the games they are going to be involved in. Casey and Healy wouldnt be part of european squads generally. they should see gametime in February i would expect


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭ yerrahbah


    Clegg wrote: »
    Are Casey or Ben Healy injured? Seems like a bit of a missed opportunity there.

    Priority would be getting the team ready for next week.

    Carbery and Murray need minutes.

    If picking a 6-2 split then you need your sub back that isnt the SH to be versatile

    You could argue for Casey to be selected over Cronin on the bench alright


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  • Registered Users Posts: 515 ✭✭✭ mogwai81


    It’s great for the likes of Daly, Wycherley and to a lesser extent Baloucoune to start a game with such experience players around them instead of a team of inexperienced players.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,374 ✭✭✭✭ molloyjh


    With the better front five, the Ulster Connors in Reidy and the better backline I fancy Ulster to win this.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,793 ✭✭✭ Paul Smeenus


    mogwai81 wrote: »
    It’s great for the likes of Daly, Wycherley and to a lesser extent Baloucoune to start a game with such experience players around them instead of a team of inexperienced players.

    Baloucoune played in three Euro games last season, including the QF against Leinster. He's well used to being the least experienced player on the pitch in big games.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,218 ✭✭✭✭ bilston


    molloyjh wrote: »
    With the better front five, the Ulster Connors in Reidy and the better backline I fancy Ulster to win this.

    Coetzee and Murphy are big misses for us.

    It's a big chance for Reidy and Rea though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,468 ✭✭✭ budhabob


    Based on the lineups can't see anything but an Ulster win. Looking forward to seeing the Munster team though to see how they go.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,564 ✭✭✭✭ Buer


    That's 8 of the Munster team that will start next weekend. If they can get close to parity in the set piece, this game is anyone's.

    Games are often won by the players who occupy the 6-10 jerseys as they dictate a lot of the game. When you look at those line ups, you'd have to say Munster are probably slightly stronger there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,775 ✭✭✭ shootermacg


    Buer wrote: »
    That's 8 of the Munster team that will start next weekend. If they can get close to parity in the set piece, this game is anyone's.

    Games are often won by the players who occupy the 6-10 jerseys as they dictate a lot of the game. When you look at those line ups, you'd have to say Munster are probably slightly stronger there.

    I think for these games, you'd just look at the combinations.

    front five = Ulster
    back row = Munster
    9/10 hard to call, Munster 9/10 haven't played much rugby together, Ulster may edge it.
    12/13 = Ulster, Arnold at fault for Leinster's try last week
    back 3 = Ulster, Ulster will probably fancy their back 3

    Hard to see Ulster losing this game at home.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭ Richie_Rich89


    Munster have the better individuals in the backrow, but they still have a 6/8 who isn't the first relation of a natural openside at 7, and O'Mahony has never possessed the physicality blindside demands. Reidy is a much better openside than O'Donoghue. Munster's loose trio would look far more balanced if they switched the flankers. Of course, that's still the same individuals playing, but I think switching them would help give clarity about who should be doing what. The best composite backrow out of all the players selected would probably be 6. JOD, 7. POM (although Reidy's close), 8. Botha, but as they've been selected, it's probably 6. Rea/O'Mahony (tie), 7. Reidy, 8. Botha.

    The worry for Ulster is that DOS, JOD and POM will get into their lineout. Ulster's lineout looked shaky against Connacht. That's Munster's route into the game, you'd have to think.


  • Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭ thomond2006


    Cooney vs Murray will get a lot of attention tonight.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭ yerrahbah


    Would like to see the Munster backs get their hands on the ball a bit more often than we saw last week


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