The solution to CIE's financial issues? Nominal charge for FTP holders?

A lot of folks are under the impression that the government will do something to piss off the grey vote, they wont. This vote is becoming more and more powerful with each passing year.

The approach in this thread is to attack the weakest, poorest, most vulnerable of society and lay the ills of CIE at their feet. Nice Trump approach there. Only problem is that approach doesn't actually solve the underlying issues and only serves to disenfranchise said poorest, most vulnerable

There is a lot more money to be saved by removing inefficient work practices, tackling unions and paying drivers a realistic salary more in line with the skills and education requirements of the job. They are on ludicrous money for what they do and a large reduction in salary is overdue .

Autonomous buses will improve the financial situation of public transport providers the world over.

Wanderer78

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There is a lot more money to be saved by removing inefficient work practices, tackling unions and paying drivers a realistic salary more in line with the skills and education requirements of the job. They are on ludicrous money for what they do and a large reduction in salary is overdue .

Should be an easy task, everyone loves a pay reduction and increased work insecurities

Idbatterim

I’m honestly surprised oap, unemployed have to pay for anything here at this stage. Why not pay for their grocery shopping , mobile bill etc too...

Idbatterim

[Deleted User] wrote: »

A lot of folks are under the impression that the government will do something to piss off the grey vote, they wont. This vote is becoming more and more powerful with each passing year.

The approach in this thread is to attack the weakest, poorest, most vulnerable of society and lay the ills of CIE at their feet. Nice Trump approach there. Only problem is that approach doesn't actually solve the underlying issues and only serves to disenfranchise said poorest, most vulnerable

There is a lot more money to be saved by removing inefficient work practices, tackling unions and paying drivers a realistic salary more in line with the skills and education requirements of the job. They are on ludicrous money for what they do and a large reduction in salary is overdue .

Autonomous buses will improve the financial situation of public transport providers the world over.

I can only imagine the piss take practices that go on within cie. But it’s not a patch on unlimited free travel. Not so that cie employees can be paid more , but so that infrastructure and transport here can be improved. From its current third world state

LeinsterDub

road_high wrote: »

Both red herrings- the fantasy revenue you imagine from all these bus lane hoggers would amount to how much exactly? And that would cost nothing to administer of course?

Why would charging users a nominal fee paid directly to the PT providers mean any more admin fee over and above the staff and machines already employed at stations, buses and ticket machines? Yea dismiss anyone that wants sensible public spending as "right wing". They must be racist as well surely?

If compatible to Belfast about 1 million per year.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-northern-ireland-49263375

end of the road

Deleted User wrote: »

A lot of folks are under the impression that the government will do something to piss off the grey vote, they wont. This vote is becoming more and more powerful with each passing year.

The approach in this thread is to attack the weakest, poorest, most vulnerable of society and lay the ills of CIE at their feet. Nice Trump approach there. Only problem is that approach doesn't actually solve the underlying issues and only serves to disenfranchise said poorest, most vulnerable

There is a lot more money to be saved by removing inefficient work practices, tackling unions and paying drivers a realistic salary more in line with the skills and education requirements of the job. They are on ludicrous money for what they do and a large reduction in salary is overdue .

Autonomous buses will improve the financial situation of public transport providers the world over.

there is nothing to tackle in relation to the unions, they are already as weak as they can be made. both the unions in ireland and the uk are the weakist in this part of europe.
drivers are payed a realistic salary in line with the skills and education requirements of the job, and based on the european market rate.
a large reduction in salary would make the job unattractive and would mean we find it hard to get and keep the talent required which will be hugely problematic in terms of running public transport services.
the first part of your post is absolutely correct however. people do love to engage in trumpism and attack the weakist in society as it makes them feel better about their own situation, even though the weakist in society being made to suffer wouldn't deliver in what the people attacking them would want.

road_high

Idbatterim wrote: »

I’m honestly surprised oap, unemployed have to pay for anything here at this stage. Why not pay for their grocery shopping , mobile bill etc too...

That'll be no doubt the next move- perhaps they can petition the UN to get that included under another looney tune Rights Bill?

joeysoap

Anyone have the figures of how the FTS are issued?

How many are to over 66’s, how many to other groups? Are they issued to students in certain circumstances?

L1011

They're not issued to students unless the student qualifies under the same requirements as anyone else (disability)