Know anyone whos never worked

mr_fegelien

I'm 21 and in college but off for Christmas. Trying to find a part-time job but the lack of experience definitely put two interviewers off. How do you get out of the "you need a job to get experience but experience to get a job"?

Plumbthedepths

mr_fegelien wrote: »

I'm 21 and in college but off for Christmas. Trying to find a part-time job but the lack of experience definitely put two interviewers off. How do you get out of the "you need a job to get experience but experience to get a job"?

Fast food is where's it at to get a job with no experience.

mr_fegelien

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Fast food is where's it at to get a job with no experience.

Really? McDonalds scoffed me off.

nkl12xtw5goz70

How disappointing. Based on the title, I thought this was a dole-bashing thread.

B.A._Baracus

Person I grew up with who is about three years younger than me hasn't worked a day in his life. He's not all there tho. Saw him last year and he looked like he is on gear too. There's thousands out there op.

Also you have to start embellishing the cv. You can't fabricate a total fake CV how you once worked in Tesco and some warehouse as the next question will be whats your references. But be creative.
When you were 19 you helped out with a local charity.
When you were 16 and 17 you helped out at your uncles garage or what ever applies.

Trigger Happy

My 9 year old has never held down a job.

mr_fegelien

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Person I grew up with who is about three years younger than me hasn't worked a day in his life. He's not all there tho. Saw him last year and he looked like he is on gear too. There's thousands out there op.

Also you have to start embellishing the cv. You can't fabricate a total fake CV how you once worked in Tesco and some warehouse as the next question will be whats your references. But be creative.
When you were 19 you helped out with a local charity.
When you were 16 and 17 you helped out at your uncles garage or what ever applies.

Okay so what do I do then? Apply at a temp agencies

rapul

mr_fegelien wrote: »

Okay so what do I do then? Apply at a temp agencies

Yes.

El Weirdo

21 and never had a job? You're looking for part-time work because you're off for Christmas? And you've only started looking now a week before Christmas?

I'm not surprised you got a PFO from McDonald's, tbh.

Fr_Dougal

Whatever ever you do, don’t show them any of the threads you’ve started.

mr_fegelien

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Whatever ever you do, don’t show them any of the threads you’ve started.

lol..

In all seriousness, employees don't have a right to discriminate based on social media. What happens outside the company to employees is none of their business.

Fr_Dougal

mr_fegelien wrote: »

lol..

In all seriousness, employees don't have a right to discriminate based on social media. What happens outside the company to employees is none of their business.

That’s where you’re wrong.

Del2005

mr_fegelien wrote: »

Really? McDonalds scoffed me off.

There's more than McDs involved in fast food. Go into your local shops and ask if they have any part time work, ask friends and family if they know of anyone who is looking for part time workers. While a CV is important for your 1st few jobs word of mouth and friends are best.

eoins23456

Can you volunteer at the local bar or shop to work for a week or two unpaid ? Once you have the basics then claim you worked in a bar or shop for a year and use a willing friend as a reference. The volunteer stuff is so you know something once you get in the door.

joe40

mr_fegelien wrote: »

lol..

In all seriousness, employees don't have a right to discriminate based on social media. What happens outside the company to employees is none of their business.

Don't believe that for one minute..

SEPT 23 1989

mr_fegelien wrote: »

lol..

In all seriousness, employees don't have a right to discriminate based on social media. What happens outside the company to employees is none of their business.

the innocence of it:D

mikhail

mr_fegelien wrote: »

I'm 21 and in college but off for Christmas. Trying to find a part-time job but the lack of experience definitely put two interviewers off. How do you get out of the "you need a job to get experience but experience to get a job"?

Don't take two knock backs to heart. Sometimes you interview loads of times before they find a job, and sometimes you get lucky. The better your CV, the better your odds, but there are lots of other factors, and some of it is just plain luck.

B.A._Baracus

mr_fegelien wrote: »

Okay so what do I do then? Apply at a temp agencies

1, Create an embellished CV. Give yourself experience on paper.
2, Print up cv's... go around to shops. Look at job boards like jobs.ie ... go to company websites as most require you to apply online.

Farly simply dude. The hard part is getting the job. Not the process.

Mr Tickle

mr_fegelien wrote: »

Okay so what do I do then? Apply at a temp agencies

You're in college. Time to talk about all that work experience you got on your J1 .
Fun fact but penneys won't give employees a reference no matter how long you've been there so if you say you worked in one for christmas/summer then it can't be checked.

Lie through your teeth until someone gives you the first job. You're looking to be trusted to stack shelves/make coffee/clear glasses, not perform surgery.

I had to do that to get in the door of penneys. Had some story about working in Surf Shop in France. You need to have it reasonably well rehearsed so you don't get caught out but it's no big deal. ideally just appropriate someone else's story.

decky1

Know a few they drive past me in new cars, have a couple of foreign holidays a year and spend most day'shaving a laugh in the pub, it's a mystery to me how they do it [ not dole bashing ] have been on the dole myself.

Fr_Dougal

mikhail wrote: »

Don't take two knock backs to heart. Sometimes you interview loads of times before they find a job, and sometimes you get lucky. The better your CV, the better your odds, but there are lots of other factors, and some of it is just plain luck.

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

1, Create an embellished CV. Give yourself experience on paper.
2, Print up cv's... go around to shops. Look at job boards like jobs.ie ... go to company websites as most require you to apply online.

Farly simply dude. The hard part is getting the job. Not the process.

Mr Tickle wrote: »

You're in college. Time to talk about all that work experience you got on your J1 .
Fun fact but penneys won't give employees a reference no matter how long you've been there so if you say you worked in one for christmas/summer then it can't be checked.

Lie through your teeth until someone gives you the first job. You're looking to be trusted to stack shelves/make coffee/clear glasses, not perform surgery.

I had to do that to get in the door of penneys. Had some story about working in Surf Shop in France. You need to have it reasonably well rehearsed so you don't get caught out but it's no big deal. ideally just appropriate someone else's story.

You’re wasting your time. The OP would rather post about not having a job and seek out likeminded individuals than actually do something about it. Posters have given him tons of advice before, all ignored.

Conall Cernach

Get one of those PSA licences and you will get door work bouncing no problem around Christmas and New Year.

Mr Tickle

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

You’re wasting your time. The OP would rather post about not having a job and seek out likeminded individuals than actually do something about it. Posters have given him tons of advice before, all ignored.

I'm trying to waste time in the job i currently have

smelly sock

Ahh the naivety of it all.

Get out of College. Have 4 kids at least before you hit 23 and sign up for the free house. that's where its all at these days. Don't be like me. Manager looking for my shoulder to see if I'm still on boards.ie.

mr_fegelien

mr_fegelien wrote: »

I'm 21 ...

going on 6.

Timberrrrrrrr

mr_fegelien wrote: »

lol..

In all seriousness, employees don't have a right to discriminate based on social media. What happens outside the company to employees is none of their business.

Oh dear, you really are inexperienced in the big bad world of employment aren't you?

Doctors room ghost

Qualified turkey catcher and dispatcher would be a good one to put on the cv for the week that’s in it.
Try and get in with a butcher or meat factory

hynesie08

Conall Cernach wrote: »

Get one of those PSA licences and you will get door work bouncing no problem around Christmas and New Year.

It takes up to 12 weeks after you finish the course to get a license, and I wouldn't put anyone on a door for their first job.

dinorebel

Travellers

rafatoni

dinorebel wrote: »

Travellers

God Bless the Mark..

Stovepipe

decky1 wrote: »

Know a few they drive past me in new cars, have a couple of foreign holidays a year and spend most day'shaving a laugh in the pub, it's a mystery to me how they do it [ not dole bashing ] have been on the dole myself.

if you have no mortgage and you have a nixer and the dole, you have the earning power of a full time worker,so you can afford a car /go to Lanza on Ryanair,etc,etc...

I recall searching long and hard for my first job. Dropping CVs into HMV, Champion Sports and just about everywhere along Henry street and ilac/Jervis.

McDs took me in the end. And Dunnes showed me some interest but wanted me to work lots of hours when I just needed a part time job.

Goodshape

Trigger Happy wrote: »

My 9 year old has never held down a job.

Scum.

Stevieluvsye

Fegelien ye muppet. If you didn't waste so much time posting sh!te here and instead out actively looking for a job months ago you'd be sorted by now. Smyths toys would hire a traveller with one leg and one arm coming up to the xmas period

weldoninhio

My first job was in the local Eurospar when I was 16. Worked there from 16-18 and then weekends when I was in college, along with working the land and behind the counter at a local Chinese takeaway. Shops are always looking for people in the run up to Xmas. I don't think it's the lack of opportunity holding the OP back for some reason.

Trigger Happy

Goodshape wrote: »

Scum.

I think it is a generational thing.
Feckin kids today would rather be on the playstation than cleaning chimneys.

Stovepipe

Know people who never worked? there's a few in every village and town,always have money for beer and smokes,because they left school at 15,have had cash in hand jobs all their lives, are always available for nixers but are on Disability or something that keeps them off the actual PAYE workforce and the Social have given up trying to get them to do courses so they float about, usually spend their day as "sentry" around the town,until the pub opens. They started out broke and will die broke.

tdf7187

Amaya Dazzling Sandstone wrote: »

How disappointing. Based on the title, I thought this was a dole-bashing thread.

I was ready with my default "Yes, bankers and politicians" response.

Goodshape

Trigger Happy wrote: »

I think it is a generational thing.
Feckin kids today would rather be on the playstation than cleaning chimneys.

Jesus wept. Sure, when I was 9 I didn't even know the concept of a "playstation"!

It was a Nintendo Entertainment System we had. And by gum we made the best of it!!

I recall searching long and hard for my first job. Dropping CVs into HMV, Champion Sports and just about everywhere along Henry street and ilac/Jervis.

McDs took me in the end. And Dunnes showed me some interest but wanted me to work lots of hours when I just needed a part time job.

tdf7187

Deleted User wrote: »

I recall searching long and hard for my first job. Dropping CVs into HMV, Champion Sports and just about everywhere along Henry street and ilac/Jervis.

McDs took me in the end. And Dunnes showed me some interest but wanted me to work lots of hours when I just needed a part time job.

My first job was the Stillorgan House pub. Pub still exists. Second was in SuperCrazyPrices in Dundrum, which is long gone. It was basically on the site of where the Dundrum Town Square is now. This was back in the early 90s, before Ireland 'got notions'.

Wanderer78

Yea I would have met a few that have never worked, some from a family that have never worked, tragic really

Woshy

OP I reckon it's the time you are looking for work - it's the worst possible time. Anywhere that wanted extra staff for Christmas will have taken them on weeks and weeks ago. Lots of places do not keep those people on after Christmas too so there's no way they're looking to hire more people basically a week before Christmas.

funnights74

Yes, a guy i was in School with, he was always late which should have raised a few red flags, to this day he would be around 55 yrs old now he has never lifted a finger. To make matters worse his father was a foreman in the city council so he could have walked into a job for life but to this day i would see him strolling around not a care in the world.
His brother is the total opposite, works night and day, married with kids. Jesus you would wonder how 2 guys who came out the same front door have such different to simply doing a decent days work.

weldoninhio

Goodshape wrote: »

Jesus wept. Sure, when I was 9 I didn't even know the concept of a "playstation"!

It was a Nintendo Entertainment System we had. And by gum we made the best of it!!

A NES at 9! Well la di fcuking da!! Someone was born with a spoon in their mouth. All I had was an Atari 2600 at 9. And Centipede was top of the range.

Woke Hogan

El Weirdo wrote: »

21 and never had a job? You're looking for part-time work because you're off for Christmas? And you've only started looking now a week before Christmas?

I'm not surprised you got a PFO from McDonald's, tbh.

Lessons are there to be learned.

Goodshape

weldoninhio wrote: »

A NES at 9! Well la di fcuking da!! Someone was born with a spoon in their mouth. All I had was an Atari 2600 at 9. And Centipede was top of the range.

Peasant.

Wanderer78

funnights74 wrote:

Yes, a guy i was in School with, he was always late which should have raised a few red flags, to this day he would be around 55 yrs old now he has never lifted a finger. To make matters worse his father was a foreman in the city council so he could have walked into a job for life but to this day i would see him strolling around not a care in the world. His brother is the total opposite, works night and day, married with kids. Jesus you would wonder how 2 guys who came out the same front door have such different to simply doing a decent days work.

No two humans are the same, the exact same environment can produce extraordinary different humans, unfortunately early life red flags are regularly ignored within our educational system, resulting in tragic outcomes

tdf7187

Some of ye that give out about dole scroungers seem to spend an awful lot of time on boards.ie in daytime hours. I guess you are all self-employed or night time workers. That's the explanation (yarite).

petes

tdf7187 wrote: »

Some of ye that give out about dole scroungers seem to spend an awful lot of time on boards.ie in daytime hours. I guess you are all self-employed or night time workers. That's the explanation (yarite).

Nah, they are at work posting on boards, just like I am!

Wanderer78

petes wrote:

Nah, they are at work posting on boards, just like I am!

You getting paid for this to? Fcuk it, thought I was the only one!