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Know anyone whos never worked

mr_fegelien

I'm 21 and in college but off for Christmas. Trying to find a part-time job but the lack of experience definitely put two interviewers off. How do you get out of the "you need a job to get experience but experience to get a job"?

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[Deleted User]

I recall searching long and hard for my first job. Dropping CVs into HMV, Champion Sports and just about everywhere along Henry street and ilac/Jervis.

McDs took me in the end. And Dunnes showed me some interest but wanted me to work lots of hours when I just needed a part time job.

Goodshape

Trigger Happy wrote: »

My 9 year old has never held down a job.

Scum.

Stevieluvsye

Fegelien ye muppet. If you didn't waste so much time posting sh!te here and instead out actively looking for a job months ago you'd be sorted by now. Smyths toys would hire a traveller with one leg and one arm coming up to the xmas period

weldoninhio

My first job was in the local Eurospar when I was 16. Worked there from 16-18 and then weekends when I was in college, along with working the land and behind the counter at a local Chinese takeaway. Shops are always looking for people in the run up to Xmas. I don't think it's the lack of opportunity holding the OP back for some reason.

Trigger Happy

Goodshape wrote: »

Scum.

I think it is a generational thing.
Feckin kids today would rather be on the playstation than cleaning chimneys.

Stovepipe

Know people who never worked? there's a few in every village and town,always have money for beer and smokes,because they left school at 15,have had cash in hand jobs all their lives, are always available for nixers but are on Disability or something that keeps them off the actual PAYE workforce and the Social have given up trying to get them to do courses so they float about, usually spend their day as "sentry" around the town,until the pub opens. They started out broke and will die broke.

tdf7187

Amaya Dazzling Sandstone wrote: »

How disappointing. Based on the title, I thought this was a dole-bashing thread.

I was ready with my default "Yes, bankers and politicians" response.

Goodshape

Trigger Happy wrote: »

I think it is a generational thing.
Feckin kids today would rather be on the playstation than cleaning chimneys.

Jesus wept. Sure, when I was 9 I didn't even know the concept of a "playstation"!

It was a Nintendo Entertainment System we had. And by gum we made the best of it!!

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tdf7187

Deleted User wrote: »

I recall searching long and hard for my first job. Dropping CVs into HMV, Champion Sports and just about everywhere along Henry street and ilac/Jervis.

McDs took me in the end. And Dunnes showed me some interest but wanted me to work lots of hours when I just needed a part time job.

My first job was the Stillorgan House pub. Pub still exists. Second was in SuperCrazyPrices in Dundrum, which is long gone. It was basically on the site of where the Dundrum Town Square is now. This was back in the early 90s, before Ireland 'got notions'.

Wanderer78

Yea I would have met a few that have never worked, some from a family that have never worked, tragic really

Woshy

OP I reckon it's the time you are looking for work - it's the worst possible time. Anywhere that wanted extra staff for Christmas will have taken them on weeks and weeks ago. Lots of places do not keep those people on after Christmas too so there's no way they're looking to hire more people basically a week before Christmas.

funnights74

Yes, a guy i was in School with, he was always late which should have raised a few red flags, to this day he would be around 55 yrs old now he has never lifted a finger. To make matters worse his father was a foreman in the city council so he could have walked into a job for life but to this day i would see him strolling around not a care in the world.
His brother is the total opposite, works night and day, married with kids. Jesus you would wonder how 2 guys who came out the same front door have such different to simply doing a decent days work.

weldoninhio

Goodshape wrote: »

Jesus wept. Sure, when I was 9 I didn't even know the concept of a "playstation"!

It was a Nintendo Entertainment System we had. And by gum we made the best of it!!

A NES at 9! Well la di fcuking da!! Someone was born with a spoon in their mouth. All I had was an Atari 2600 at 9. And Centipede was top of the range.

Woke Hogan

El Weirdo wrote: »

21 and never had a job? You're looking for part-time work because you're off for Christmas? And you've only started looking now a week before Christmas?

I'm not surprised you got a PFO from McDonald's, tbh.

Lessons are there to be learned.

Goodshape

weldoninhio wrote: »

A NES at 9! Well la di fcuking da!! Someone was born with a spoon in their mouth. All I had was an Atari 2600 at 9. And Centipede was top of the range.

Peasant.

Wanderer78

funnights74 wrote:

Yes, a guy i was in School with, he was always late which should have raised a few red flags, to this day he would be around 55 yrs old now he has never lifted a finger. To make matters worse his father was a foreman in the city council so he could have walked into a job for life but to this day i would see him strolling around not a care in the world. His brother is the total opposite, works night and day, married with kids. Jesus you would wonder how 2 guys who came out the same front door have such different to simply doing a decent days work.

No two humans are the same, the exact same environment can produce extraordinary different humans, unfortunately early life red flags are regularly ignored within our educational system, resulting in tragic outcomes

tdf7187

Some of ye that give out about dole scroungers seem to spend an awful lot of time on boards.ie in daytime hours. I guess you are all self-employed or night time workers. That's the explanation (yarite).

petes

tdf7187 wrote: »

Some of ye that give out about dole scroungers seem to spend an awful lot of time on boards.ie in daytime hours. I guess you are all self-employed or night time workers. That's the explanation (yarite).

Nah, they are at work posting on boards, just like I am!

Wanderer78

petes wrote:

Nah, they are at work posting on boards, just like I am!

You getting paid for this to? Fcuk it, thought I was the only one!

cgcsb

It's pretty much a given at this stage of your life that your cv is at least 60% bull****. The only trick is you need to find someone who sounds realistic enough on the phone for a phoney reference.

The older you get the less you'll revert to 'honesty is the best policy'. The means produces an ends, if it's good enough for the CEOs of this world it's just as good a policy for you.

[Deleted User]

Mr Tickle wrote: »

You're in college. Time to talk about all that work experience you got on your J1 .
Fun fact but penneys won't give employees a reference no matter how long you've been there so if you say you worked in one for christmas/summer then it can't be checked.

Lie through your teeth until someone gives you the first job. You're looking to be trusted to stack shelves/make coffee/clear glasses, not perform surgery.

I had to do that to get in the door of penneys. Had some story about working in Surf Shop in France. You need to have it reasonably well rehearsed so you don't get caught out but it's no big deal. ideally just appropriate someone else's story.

I always think lying is dangerous, as your body language or manner of speaking can give you away, and interviewers are likely to ask a simple probing question to catch you out, then if you’re caught out that’s your hope of that job out the window. I remember way back in 1978 doing an interview with AIB, where I failed to get past the post. The interviewer was astute, and asked me what my previous work experience was. I had none and should have said so, but I made up a story about temp work in a newsagents. He immediately asked me which one as he was familiar with owners of retail businesses in the area. That was that. It’s a very small world out there and your story is only too easily uncovered.

Stevieluvsye

weldoninhio wrote: »

A NES at 9! Well la di fcuking da!! Someone was born with a spoon in their mouth. All I had was an Atari 2600 at 9. And Centipede was top of the range.

Commodore 64 for me

mountai

I know of 166 Bolli@es who have jobs but they never do any proper work .

Bob Harris

Have you thought about a career in publishing OP?

john343

funnights74 wrote: »

Yes, a guy i was in School with, he was always late which should have raised a few red flags, to this day he would be around 55 yrs old now he has never lifted a finger. To make matters worse his father was a foreman in the city council so he could have walked into a job for life but to this day i would see him strolling around not a care in the world.
His brother is the total opposite, works night and day, married with kids. Jesus you would wonder how 2 guys who came out the same front door have such different to simply doing a decent days work.

So he most likely lives his life with no stress whatsoever and doesn't give a sh*t about material things and is free to do as he like whenever he likes, he is probably smarter than all of us ffs...

[Deleted User]

mr_fegelien wrote: »

How do you get out of the "you need a job to get experience but experience to get a job"?

I start multiple threads a day on online forums instead. You should maybe give that a bash?

chrissb8

If it's for a job stacking shelves, on the til or any basic rudimentary part time job of the same ilk just lie or embellish. It's a basic enough job and it doesn't matter as you're hardly going to be found out in these jobs.

tdf7187

cgcsb wrote: »

It's pretty much a given at this stage of your life that your cv is at least 60% bull****. The only trick is you need to find someone who sounds realistic enough on the phone for a phoney reference.

The older you get the less you'll revert to 'honesty is the best policy'. The means produces an ends, if it's good enough for the CEOs of this world it's just as good a policy for you.

Honesty usually is the best policy as regards serious stuff, as in don't steal from your employer. But everyone embellishes their CV, or the modern equivalent , Linkedin profile to some degree, that's a given.

tdf7187

petes wrote: »

Nah, they are at work posting on boards, just like I am!

Good thing I don't know your real names so.