Jessica Yaniv refused service at gynaecologist's office

Dante7

seamus wrote: »

As far as I can tell, Oger has completely distanced herself from Yaniv and has refused to allow Yaniv to get involved in any trans rights events or organisations Oger is involved in. "Rowed back a bit" makes it sound like they're best buddies in private, when that's absolutely not the case. Oger has come out publicly to shine a light on the allegations aganist Yaniv, at legal risk to herself it has to be said.

So, it's fair to say that the trans community in Canada don't support Yaniv, and are concerned that she's a predator.

Oger still supports Yaniv on the access to female only services stuff. Oger gave Yaniv the legal advice for the tribunal cases. Oger tweeted yesterday that Yaniv could have a need to see a gynaecologist. So it's fair to say that the main Trans activist in Canada supports a biological males right to access services that specially for females only.

https://twitter.com/MorganeOgerBC/status/1201992856107278336?s=19

sheesh

She has no female genitalia, she has not given a reason as to why she needed a gynecologist.

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

Seems ridiculous at first, but read the twitter thread and I feel she may have a point...


https://twitter.com/trustednerd/status/1201665480504668162

her three other tweets in that thread:



How do you feel about this?

I'm not too sure, Trans people should have access to services they need, but I don't know if every gynaecological surgery should or could be able to handle cases like these...

drunkmonkey

drunkmonkey wrote: »

I've not seen one critizie him from an equal rights prospective, they curse his method but support the underlying logic.
You either agree he's a woman and entitled to everything a woman is or your don't. If you don't your a transphobe. It couldn't be any clear cut.

You wouldn't send a man with two prosthetic legs to a podiatrist........

super_furry

She's the same person that went after migrant home-run beauty businesses and got them shut down for not waxing her testicles?

Yeah she's an asshole.

Eric Cartman

Sardonicat wrote: »

Why does someone who doesn't have the specific body parts treated under the speciality of gynaecology need to see a gynecologist? How on earth could they be referred to one and byou whom?

This is the same person who tried to organise a no adults allowed topless pool party for 12 year old girls...

super_furry

Hunky Monster wrote: »

And yet people are defending him on here..

Can you link to them?

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

super_furry wrote: »

Can you link to them?

Hang on a minute and I’ll quote every single post on people who defended him in the multiple boards threads on this fella. I mean I’m at work now but I guess that can wait.

SusieBlue

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Hang on a minute and I’ll quote every single post on people who defended him in the multiple boards threads on this fella. I mean I’m at work now but I guess that can wait.

No one on this thread has defended Yaniv's behaviour as far as I can see. A few people disagreed on the use of which pronoun to use when referring to them, but that's it.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

SusieBlue wrote: »

No one on this thread has defended Yaniv's behaviour as far as I can see. A few people disagreed on the use of which pronoun to use when referring to them, but that's it.

There is MULTIPLE threads on here than spanned hundreds of pages. A quick search will show you just how many defend this piece of human garbage.

super_furry

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Hang on a minute and I’ll quote every single post on people who defended him in the multiple boards threads on this fella. I mean I’m at work now but I guess that can wait.

Ahh I understand now, you're talking out of your hoop. Good to know.

ceadaoin.

seamus wrote: »

As far as I can tell, Oger has completely distanced herself from Yaniv and has refused to allow Yaniv to get involved in any trans rights events or organisations Oger is involved in. "Rowed back a bit" makes it sound like they're best buddies in private, when that's absolutely not the case. Oger has come out publicly to shine a light on the allegations aganist Yaniv, at legal risk to herself it has to be said.

So, it's fair to say that the trans community in Canada don't support Yaniv, and are concerned that she's a predator.

Oger herself said that Yaniv was the "wrong person" but supported the case to force women to touch male genitalia. She's been on a years long campaign herself to shut down a womens rape crisis centre that accepts biological females only.

Many of the women who came out publicly to shine a light on Yanivs behaviour in the months before Oger ended up banned from Twitter and labelled transphobes. I wonder why that was?

suicide_circus

Phoebas wrote: »

Is there anything to be said for allowing people to choose their own pronouns

there is. but it dosnt stop at pronouns.

RocketRaccoon

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Which specific posts did you interpret as 'defending him'?

Go to Mitch Connors posts at the start of the thread.

Sardonicat

Eric Cartman wrote: »

This is the same person who tried to organise a no adults allowed topless pool party for 12 year old girls...

I know. I was just flabbergasted that Yaniv was apparently referred by a health professional to a gynaecologist. Maybe it's because Yaniv is, in fact a giant twat and a gynaecologist is the best qualified for his treatment?

TheValeyard

suicide_circus wrote: »

there is. but it dosnt stop at pronouns.

I'm going to create my own pronoun. It's going to be 14 letters long, have 8 different tenses and must change depending on which weekday it is. If you dont recognise my pronoun, you're oppressing me.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Deleted User wrote: »

There are plenty pandering to his desire to be referred to as a woman, but I haven't seen anyone defend him.

Nobody has defended him BUT there has absolutely been kneejerking about the people complaining about him being transphobes. A poster early in the thread admitted to knowing nothing about Yaniv but was very fast to lambast critics of Yaniv as transphobes.

AndrewJRenko

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Go to Mitch Connors posts at the start of the thread.

This one?

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=111928339&postcount=19

It doesn't mention Yaniv at all. Nada. Zilch. Rien.

RocketRaccoon

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

This one?

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=111928339&postcount=19

It doesn't mention Yaniv at all. Nada. Zilch. Rien.

Keep going

AndrewJRenko

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Keep going

I'm done playing games. Link to the post or withdraw your allegation.

AndrewJRenko

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Hang on a minute and I’ll quote every single post on people who defended him in the multiple boards threads on this fella. I mean I’m at work now but I guess that can wait.

Two or three of the posts on this thread that are defending Yaniv would be great, thanks.

AndrewJRenko

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

I'm done playing games. Link to the post or withdraw your allegation.

Why not just argue your counterpoint, instead of acting like you get to direct the debate?

volchitsa

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

Seems ridiculous at first, but read the twitter thread and I feel she may have a point...


https://twitter.com/trustednerd/status/1201665480504668162

her three other tweets in that thread:



How do you feel about this?

I'm not too sure, Trans people should have access to services they need, but I don't know if every gynaecological surgery should or could be able to handle cases like these...

The thread has disappeared from Twitter. I wonder was it a fake right from the start?

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

This one?

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=111928339&postcount=19

It doesn't mention Yaniv at all. Nada. Zilch. Rien.

Answering another forum member’s question about whether they knew Yaniv, Mitch Connor had this to say:

Mitch Connor wrote: »

nope. and i don't care.

the hate in this thread has been generalised on transgender people and any possible need for a Gynaecologists - not simply or just this specific person.

Forget the possible need for a Gynaecologists - the hateful mob have decided they aren't needed and are just a publicity stunt.
Forget that they were refered to a Gynaecologist - the hateful mob have decided they aren't needed and its just a publicity stunt.

People do indeed have a strong reaction to Yaniv, with good reason. That poster jumped to conclusions without being informed.

Others have pointed out that most gynaecologists won’t have specialist training to deal with transgender people and that, in that case, turning Yaniv away would not only be sensible but the most responsible thing to do. I wouldn’t want an underqualified doctor. Who would?

RocketRaccoon

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

I'm done playing games. Link to the post or withdraw your allegation.

It's clear as day that posters, Mitch Connor in particular, were trying to defend Yaniv. It's funny that when I mentioned he was a predatory paedophile and that poster should read about him/her the poster didn't come back to the thread. And you know what? That does not bother me in the slightest, I hope that poster now realises it was an error in judgement and has realised how disgusting a person Yaniv is.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

*cry* link to the post...

Ffs, this idiot spans at least three threads hundreds of pages long each. There’s plenty defending him.

AndrewJRenko

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Answering another forum member’s question about whether they knew Yaniv, Mitch Connor had this to say:

People do indeed have a strong reaction to Yaniv, with good reason. That poster jumped to conclusions without being informed.

Others have pointed out that most gynaecologists won’t have specialist training to deal with transgender people and that, in that case, turning Yaniv away would not only be sensible but the most responsible thing to do. I wouldn’t want an underqualified doctor. Who would?

Again, there's nothing in that comment from Mitch that defends Yaniv.

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

It's clear as day that posters, Mitch Connor in particular, were trying to defend Yaniv.

Clear from what? Can you point to a post or two where Yaniv was defended please?

JayZeus wrote: »

Why not just argue your counterpoint, instead of acting like you get to direct the debate?

Counterpoint to what? I don't know what I'm arguing until I can see it.
Where are these posts defending Yaniv?

RocketRaccoon

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Again, there's nothing in that comment from Mitch that defends Yaniv.


Clear from what? Can you point to a post or two where Yaniv was defended please?



Counterpoint to what? I don't know what I'm arguing until I can see it.
Where are these posts defending Yaniv?

Asking me to name the gyno who could be closed down?
Saying I hate ALL trans people?
Constantly contradicting posters who called Yaniv "he".

There's 3 instances I would see as defending Yaniv. Im not linking the posts for context, feel free to look for yourself. First 3 pages of the thread.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Again, there's nothing in that comment from Mitch that defends Yaniv.


Clear from what? Can you point to a post or two where Yaniv was defended please?



Counterpoint to what? I don't know what I'm arguing until I can see it.
Where are these posts defending Yaniv?

You’re just asking questions, right?

People learn to read between the lines in Leaving Certificate English. You know well that plenty can be inferred with things being spelled out literally. Maybe you are flagging your inability to do that?

Jessica Yaniv lives simply to cause trouble for people of various professions who are not qualified to meet her needs. She then runs to court shrieking about discrimination. When she’s gotten rid of her male genitalia, then she might be listened to and taken seriously. As it is, she’s doing transgender people no favours at all.

AndrewJRenko

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

You’re just asking questions, right?

People learn to read between the lines in Leaving Certificate English. You know well that plenty can be inferred with things being spelled out literally. Maybe you are flagging your inability to do that?

I'm genuinely unclear what you are saying here, so maybe you'd be better spelling it out literally rather than relying on me to read between the lines.

Possibly, you're saying that anyone who doesn't immediately jump on the bandwagon of 'let's attack Yaniv and while we're at it, let's have a good go at transgender people' is defending Yaniv - is this the case?

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Asking me to name the gyno who could be closed down?
Saying I hate ALL trans people?
Constantly contradicting posters who called Yaniv "he".

There's 3 instances I would see as defending Yaniv. Im not linking the posts for context, feel free to look for yourself. First 3 pages of the thread.

First two again have nothing to do with Yaniv - they are about you, not about Yaniv. The third doesn't defend anything that Yaniv did or said. It simply respects the boards.ie policy of not misgendering people.