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Have you ever considered murdering somebody?

  • 03-12-2019 7:37pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,003 ✭✭✭


    Let's say you've caught the wife playing away from home with Alan Flood - Floodser from secondary school no less - or your boss is bullying you and calling you names like knob boy or uranium face.

    Let's just say somebody needed to go. Would you kill them? I know what you're thinking. You're thinking you don't want to do the time if you do the crime, and therefore you wouldn't go ahead with it, but what if you didn't have to do the time? What if there was quite a good chance you would get away with it? What if the guards only solved 72 percent of homicides, giving you a 28 percent chance of getting away with murder? That's a real stat I read in The Irish Times today.

    Only 72% of homicides were solved last year, which seems very low. So, if you did want to kill somebody, somebody like Floodser, then you can do so in the knowledge that the guards probably won't find you if you do it well enough.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,943 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    Floodser at it again is he? The f*cking c*nt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,718 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    I firmly believe all humans are capable of murder if they are caught in serious enough circumstances.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭Auguste Comte


    _Brian wrote: »
    I firmly believe all humans are capable of murder if they are caught in serious enough circumstances.

    Except uranium face, he's a pussy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,437 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    I’m tempted to go with the Liam Neeson meme here but you’d probably kill me for it :D

    Never given it any serious consideration tbh, but there have been a few times in my life when I lost the rag and realised afterwards I could have come awfully close to being charged with manslaughter if I’d killed the guy. It’s not something I’ve ever consciously thought about doing, it’s not just a question of doing the time, it’s that I simply don’t have the right to end another human life.


  • Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I could murder a sandwich right now.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Honestly expected this thread to have been started by mr.fearglein!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,134 ✭✭✭jimwallace197


    Hammer89 wrote: »
    Let's say you've caught the wife playing away from home with Alan Flood - Floodser from secondary school no less - or your boss is bullying you and calling you names like knob boy or uranium face.

    Let's just say somebody needed to go. Would you kill them? I know what you're thinking. You're thinking you don't want to do the time if you do the crime, and therefore you wouldn't go ahead with it, but what if you didn't have to do the time? What if there was quite a good chance you would get away with it? What if the guards only solved 72 percent of homicides, giving you a 28 percent chance of getting away with murder? That's a real stat I read in The Irish Times today.

    Only 72% of homicides were solved last year, which seems very low. So, if you did want to kill somebody, somebody like Floodser, then you can do so in the knowledge that the guards probably won't find you if you do it well enough.


    No, because the guilt of it isnt worth it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,437 ✭✭✭✭Purple Mountain


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    Honestly expected this thread to have been started my Mr.fearglein!

    I came on here to post that him and his female nemesis, Vibes are the 2 who spring to mind when answering the OP's question.

    To thine own self be true



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    I can't remember how many kills....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,786 ✭✭✭KathleenGrant


    I couldn't hurt anyone to save my life. No way could I murder someone.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,795 ✭✭✭Mrcaramelchoc


    Hammer89 wrote: »
    then you can do so in the knowledge that the guards probably won't find you if you do it well enough.

    Murdering someone is easy its getting away with it that s the hard part.
    look at graham o dwyer.only for nature doing what it does he would have got away with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,786 ✭✭✭KathleenGrant


    Oh wait to save one of my kids or grandkids. No problem


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,943 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    _Brian wrote: »
    I firmly believe all humans are capable of murder if they are caught in serious enough circumstances.

    Heat of the moment type affair, Brian? I'd agree with that.

    Planning it and looking up stats to see how likely you are to get caught if you stove that c*nt Floodser's head in with a lump hammer is a different story though.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 784 ✭✭✭LaFuton


    thou shalt not kill*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    A little water clears us of this deed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    Honestly reading what some of the scrotes get away with in Court in this country I'm tempted on almost a daily basis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,809 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Many times, but the sheer amount of work in body disposal put me off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,043 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    I've murdered alot of people on boards.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 807 ✭✭✭Jenneke87


    I work in customer service and everyday the feeling that maybe the jailtime is worth it just to get did of some of these ***** is getting stronger..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭Syndic


    I can see this thread being submitted as evidence in a murder trial.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Many times, but the sheer amount of work in body disposal put me off.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xUynRdzzsM

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,446 Mod ✭✭✭✭xzanti


    If someone was a real, immediate threat to my kids. I would absolutely try my best to kill them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Every. Single. Day.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,916 Mod ✭✭✭✭Albert Johnson


    No, because the guilt of it isnt worth it

    This is the factor that has always given me great cause for consideration, do all those who murder feel guilt? I'm assuming that most people who plan a murder as opposed to accidental cases or killings as a result of fits of blind rage have somewhat valid reasons at least in there own mind. If you have come to the conclusion that X deserves to die because of Y reasons then obviously you've taken some time to try and rationalize it.

    I'm discounting those who kill for some sense of gratification or similar as obviously this would cloud there judgement. Let's take for example that I feel deeply wronged by an individual who will most likely continue to wrong me in future if left unpunished. Yes other's may say that it's not my right to end said individuals life and that there are other options available. However I'm not interested in the thoughts of others and for the purpose of this debate will only consider my own. I proceed to murder the other individual and remove the threat as I see it. Hopefully I've covered my tracks sufficiently to prevent conviction and I continue on with my life safe in the knowledge that I did what was necessary to safeguard my future.

    Perhaps I may feel some sympathy for those left behind and wish that thing's had been different. However I still believe I took the only course of action available to me and that I can now move forward with my life. It seems very unlikely to me that all murderers have a sudden moment of clarity and fall to there knee's begging forgiveness for what they have done. Yes murder is a gruesome business and isn't something to be undertaken lightly but the factors and reasoning involved will vary enormously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,927 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    God no, never even truly hated anyone. Except for someone murdered your wife/child/mother type of scenarios I dont think I ever will. I dont like someone I just dont have anything to do with them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,035 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    Honestly expected this thread to have been started my Mr.fearglein!

    Fegelein goddamnit.



    I have a mind to kill you father.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    Do you mean just thinking about it knowing that you'd never do it, or actually putting a serious plan in motion?

    The former - all the time at work in my case. Like many.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46 Beau Bennett


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    Honestly expected this thread to have been started my Mr.fearglein!

    I hear you're a murderer now, father.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,230 ✭✭✭jaxxx


    Ah, murder. No greater symbol that reflects human elitism over the rest of the natural world.

    Alas though I must confess, I killed Roger Rabbit.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 321 ✭✭171170


    Coincidentally, I've just come from this link:

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/criminal-court/man-who-destroyed-a-family-s-home-on-christmas-day-is-jailed-1.4103574

    and at this moment, I would happily put an end to the life of the piece of excrement who did this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    I reckon it would be easy enough to kill someone. People have been doing it since the beginning of time. Once you did one or two I think any guilt would disappear and it’d be fairly handy. Apparently random murders are very difficult to solve.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,393 ✭✭✭MonkieSocks


    I hear you're a murderer now, father.

    That would be an Ecumenical Matter

    =(:-) Me? I know who I am. I'm a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude (-:)=



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭corsav6


    For survival and protection only. I wouldn't think twice about killing someone if they posed a threat to me or my family.
    I avoid confrontation where possible and believe that most situations can be talked through and no need to resort to violence.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭kenmm


    Hammer89 wrote: »

    Only 72% of homicides were solved last year, which seems very low. So, if you did want to kill somebody, somebody like Floodser, then you can do so in the knowledge that the guards probably won't find you if you do it well enough.

    Theres a greater than 7 in 10 chance.. so they probably will.

    fkn floodster - I used to work for him AND he took my wife :(


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,630 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    I have often considered it, but the guilt and fear of being caught would deter me.

    If I was to murder someone it would be an irrational reaction to anger etc., rather than premeditated and meticulously planned. I'm not that cracked.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,211 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Not really. I may have thought it would be nice if their car burst into flames tough!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,040 ✭✭✭rapul


    Who hasn't?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭AulWan


    Some "fellow road users".

    I'd even make it look like an accident...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    NO, but I have ( in the distant past) thought about killing myself on a particular person's property, it's the sort of thing that would be difficult to forget so a good form of revenge in my view

    Yes, this person had a profound effect on my life and not a day goes by that I don't think about them despite not having seen or spoken to them since 1998


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,058 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Not sure about murder, but theres a couple of places I drive through where lone female motorists have been "carjacked".

    When stopped at lights, I always leave enough space between myself and car in front that I can drive away if cornered.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Aceandstuff


    Another Garda bait post, eh?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    My best friends would make jokes about the myriad ways we could do away with a certain person who crossed me in a big way, but I'll just laugh it off but refuse to even joke about it. It's one of those things you're better off not entertaining in your mind. The best revenge is a life well lived. Capable in theory? Yes, but willing? no.

    I can kind of see why they'd want him dead more than I do though. They had to endure my going on about him day and night for at least a week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,419 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Raconteuse wrote: »
    Do you mean just thinking about it knowing that you'd never do it, or actually putting a serious plan in motion?

    The former - all the time at work in my case. Like many.

    Same here , there's an average of at least eight dead before I get into work in the morning.

    On a more darker side , one of my paternal great grandparents was a UK born Romany Gypsy who could apparently place curses on people.

    I can vaguely remember my grandmother giving out to my father when he made a joke about the story.

    Needless to say I've been trying for years to place curses on people


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,922 ✭✭✭Marhay70


    Every time another bandwagon hopping PC Liberal Snowflake opens their mouth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Rope, duct tape, barrel, acid, boat and some beers....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭Woke Hogan


    Same here , there's an average of at least eight dead before I get into work in the morning.

    On a more darker side , one of my paternal great grandparents was a UK born Romany Gypsy who could apparently place curses on people.

    I can vaguely remember my grandmother giving out to my father when he made a joke about the story.

    Needless to say I've been trying for years to place curses on people

    I’d say a good proportion of the people on this website could do with the curse from Thinner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,716 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse


    I used to think about it way more than I do now but very much in an idle fantasy way and not actual realistic plan I’m gonna carry out way.

    There are some crazy statistics out there on stuff like this about how frequently people think about committing violence and even killing. The numbers are crazy high (for both genders too). Most people have thought about it at some stage I’d say.

    The Garda stat, I’m not sure what to make of; when do they regard a murder as solved? If it requires a court conviction then it may be just a case of the case taking time to be prosecuted? Or if a lot of the killings are gangland criminal related they may very well know who wanted it to happen etc. but not who specifically committed the act.

    So I’d hold off on ordering those body bags just for now.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,022 Mod ✭✭✭✭wiggle16


    The Destroying Angel mushroom, amanita virosa, is very common and can be found growing from spring into the winter in Ireland. It is bright white, not very unlike a large portobello, apparently tastes quite good, and a single cap is enough to kill a human being. Symptoms of amatoxin poisoning can take up to 48 hours to present themselves after ingestion, by which time all care is palliative.

    So yes, I have considered it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,857 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Hammer89 wrote: »
    Only 72% of homicides were solved last year, which seems very low. So, if you did want to kill somebody, somebody like Floodser, then you can do so in the knowledge that the guards probably won't find you if you do it well enough.

    That 28% is 19 cases. The killer(s) will probably slip up somewhere in the next few years and the Feds will get them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭wfdrun


    “If you wait by the river long enough, the bodies of your enemies will float by.”


    thinking of an ex boss i would have such a satisfying piss in his/her eye


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