Calling people by their full names in professional environs

Brock Turnpike

Good morning.

How do you all feel about this? A friend of mine once asked a good friend of his, whom he one prior to working with him, to call him by his full name in work. Is this acceptable?

Should I start asking work colleagues/friends to call me Brockleton in professional environs?

Stevieluvsye

Brock Turnpike wrote: »

Good morning.

How do you all feel about this? A friend of mine once asked a good friend of his, whom he one prior to working with him, to call him by his full name in work. Is this acceptable?

Should I start asking work colleagues/friends to call me Brockleton in professional environs?

Bit early for the drugs IMHO

Guill

Are we talking Lawfirm or McDonalds?

Brock Turnpike

Guill wrote: »

Are we talking Lawfirm or McDonalds?

For the friend, it was an engineering firm.

Brock Turnpike

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

Bit early for the drugs IMHO

No drugs we're harmed in the drafting of the OP.

DrumSteve

The only time I've ever heard this is when Joey Diaz is telling Joe Rogan a story.

Dj Stiggie

So down the pub he's known as Damo or something and he asked one of the lads to call him Damien because everyone else at work does? Seems fair.

Your Face

Address him by his proper title, ya little bollocks.

Conor Bourke

I’ve a colleague who took to calling me by a diminutive and in their accent it made it sound like a Fair City character so that had to stop immediately. There’s another different shortened version that I’m quite happy to be called in work though, I even told a patient to call me by it to differentiate from her daughter who had the same name as me.

What boils my piss though is either in real life or here on boards when people take it upon themselves to address you simply by the first letter of your name in a cloyingly matey way. It’s hideously over-familiar and I wish people wouldn’t do it. Then again it’s a fairly immediate way of someone demonstrating that they’re a bit of a knob so perhaps it’s best to know that at the earliest opportunity.

Stevieluvsye

Cornelius Crow wrote: »

I’ve a colleague who took to calling me by a diminutive and in their accent it made it sound like a Fair City character so that had to stop immediately. There’s another different shortened version that I’m quite happy to be called in work though, I even told a patient to call me by it to differentiate from her daughter who had the same name as me.

What boils my piss though is either in real life or here on boards when people take it upon themselves to address you simply by the first letter of your name in a cloyingly matey way. It’s hideously over-familiar and I wish people wouldn’t do it. Then again it’s a fairly immediate way of someone demonstrating that they’re a bit of a knob so perhaps it’s best to know that at the earliest opportunity.

Anger issues C?

Guill

Cornelius Crow wrote: »

I’ve a colleague who took to calling me by a diminutive and in their accent it made it sound like a Fair City character so that had to stop immediately. There’s another different shortened version that I’m quite happy to be called in work though, I even told a patient to call me by it to differentiate from her daughter who had the same name as me.

What boils my piss though is either in real life or here on boards when people take it upon themselves to address you simply by the first letter of your name in a cloyingly matey way. It’s hideously over-familiar and I wish people wouldn’t do it. Then again it’s a fairly immediate way of someone demonstrating that they’re a bit of a knob so perhaps it’s best to know that at the earliest opportunity.

You make a good point there C.

branie2

If a person is in the medical field, I call him or her doctor or nurse

Brock Turnpike

Brock Turnpike wrote: »

Good morning.

How do you all feel about this? A friend of mine once asked a good friend of his, whom he one prior to working with him, to call him by his full name in work. Is this acceptable?

Should I start asking work colleagues/friends to call me Brockleton in professional environs?

So you are addressing them as say..Bartholomew in work but if you met him in the pub he is Bart? were you not tempted to laugh when they asked you this?

Stevieluvsye

branie2 wrote: »

If a person is in the medical field, I call him or her doctor or nurse

What about a Dentist? There's one for ye

JohnnyFlash

Buddy and Pal.

brevity

Yea, don’t shorten people’s names without prior permission.

It’s Anthony not Anto, Andrew not Andy, Vincent not Vince etc...

It’s really annoying imo and then when you correct the person you come of looking worse.

Edit: username does not check out!

171170

Whenever I met Bertie Ahern, I address him as Bartholomew. Never fails to annoy him!

Effects

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

What about a Dentist? There's one for ye

Pretty simple, you'd call them Dr, not nurse.

branie2

branie2 wrote: »

If a person is in the medical field, I call him or her doctor or nurse

Only in front of patients, not so much around the office. And if they are actually worth talking to, it's MR or Professor. Mere Doctors :rolleyes: :pac:

BDI

brevity wrote: »

Yea, don’t shorten people’s names without prior permission.

It’s Anthony not Anto, Andrew not Andy, Vincent not Vince etc...

It’s really annoying imo and then when you correct the person you come of looking worse.

Edit: username does not check out!

You come off looking worse because you can’t handle not having control. You think there is some sort of onemanupship based on what people shorten your name to or because everyone else is an idiot.

EmmetSpiceland

Brock Turnpike wrote: »

Good morning.

How do you all feel about this? A friend of mine once asked a good friend of his, whom he one prior to working with him, to call him by his full name in work. Is this acceptable?

Should I start asking work colleagues/friends to call me Brockleton in professional environs?

You don’t use “nicknames” in a professional setting, unless, maybe, you’re doing it in a “jovial” fashion with someone you have a good, working, relationship with.

Stevieluvsye

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

You don’t use “nicknames” in a professional setting, unless, maybe, you’re doing it in a “jovial” fashion with someone you have a good, working, relationship with.

True, i only call Derek "Rasher" at lunch time.

ELM327

Brock Turnpike wrote: »

Good morning.

How do you all feel about this? A friend of mine once asked a good friend of his, whom he one prior to working with him, to call him by his full name in work. Is this acceptable?

Should I start asking work colleagues/friends to call me Brockleton in professional environs?

You address me by my proper title

weldoninhio

brevity wrote: »

Yea, don’t shorten people’s names without prior permission.

It’s Anthony not Anto, Andrew not Andy, Vincent not Vince etc...

It’s really annoying imo and then when you correct the person you come of looking worse.

Edit: username does not check out!

I know what you mean Brev, bruv

EmmetSpiceland

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

True, i only call Derek "Rasher" at lunch time.

Why is he called “Rasher”?

The last time I heard that term, when not talking about the food, was in relation to a woman “jilling” in a very fast fashion.

“Rashering the kipper off herself, she was”, was the phrase I believe. Doesn’t sound very pleasant.

Zaph

I work with a guy who's been with the company for a good while. He started in IT support where he was always Andy. A few years ago he moved to a different, non-support role and "reinvented" himself as Andrew. However old habits die hard, so to older staff like myself he'll always be Andy, and we always address him as that. It probably drives him mad.

Ray Palmer

BDI wrote: »

You come off looking worse because you can’t handle not having control. You think there is some sort of onemanupship based on what people shorten your name to or because everyone else is an idiot.

Actually it is you who comes off worse. You address the person how they wish to be addressed.

My real name is 4 letters but 2 syllables so one person decided to make it one letter, not the first letter of my name and one syllable. He thought this was great because and said it saved him time. I politely asked he didn't after 2 days. He kept doing it saying he got used to it and would "try" to stop.
After another 2 days I just started ignoring him until he used my name. If he referred to me in a meeting with it I would ask who was he talking about. Other people started giving out to him as it was very clear I didn't like it and had asked him to stop publicly. The boss eventually gave him a written warning without me saying a word as it was obviously intentional belittling. He had to write me an apology.

ohnonotgmail

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

What about a Dentist? There's one for ye

Doctor, even though I dont think they technically qualify for the title. Though i am open to correction on that.

Mrs OBumble

Use whatever name(s) or pronouns they tell ya to use. That doesn't mean you have to believe that they're actually Anthony or him/his. But you do need to be polite about it.

the beer revolu

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

Why is he called “Rasher”?

He might be a Tierney.
Rashers Tierney from Strumpet City.

I knew a girl called Rachel. All her friends called her rasher.

Brock Turnpike

mariaalice wrote: »

So you are addressing them as say..Bartholomew in work but if you met him in the pub he is Bart? were you not tempted to laugh when they asked you this?

Please re-read the OP. T'was not me to whom this happened.

EmmetSpiceland

the beer revolu wrote: »

He might be a Tierney.
Rashers Tierney from Strumpet City.

I knew a girl called Rachel. All her friends called her rasher.

Is she a “Tierney”? If not you’d have to wonder...

Brock Turnpike

brevity wrote: »

Yea, don’t shorten people’s names without prior permission.

It’s Anthony not Anto, Andrew not Andy, Vincent not Vince etc...

It’s really annoying imo and then when you correct the person you come of looking worse.

Edit: username does not check out!

Again, I think you have failed to grasp the story in the OP. If the person is known to you before you start working with them, then do you think it is acceptable for them to ask you to call them by their full name rather than the shortened name you have always known them by.

Do people actually believe that having your full name used in a professional setting is of benefit? Genuine question.

Brock Turnpike

Do you treat Jennifer from accounts differently if she's happy to be addressed as Jen or Jenny?

Do you treat Gavin from IT differently if he's happy to be addressed as Gav?

lawred2

Brock Turnpike wrote: »

Good morning.

How do you all feel about this? A friend of mine once asked a good friend of his, whom he one prior to working with him, to call him by his full name in work. Is this acceptable?

Should I start asking work colleagues/friends to call me Brockleton in professional environs?

full name? as in first name and last name

or just his complete first name?

if the latter then that's perfectly acceptable.

Brock Turnpike

lawred2 wrote: »

full name? as in first name and last name

or just his complete first name?

if the latter then that's perfectly acceptable.

It's the latter. What difference does it make if he is referred to as the shortened version of his name?

Stevieluvsye

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

Why is he called “Rasher”?

The last time I heard that term, when not talking about the food, was in relation to a woman “jilling” in a very fast fashion.

“Rashering the kipper off herself, she was”, was the phrase I believe. Doesn’t sound very pleasant.

No idea actually. He's just known as Rasher or Rash. I'll ask him

I'm generally referred to as Ste, steve, stevie, steph or by my knickname which i won't give away

lawred2

Brock Turnpike wrote: »

It's the latter. What difference does it make if he is referred to as the shortened version of his name?

none if they are happy with it - I'm perfectly happy with Dave

but if they've asked you otherwise then don't be a knob about it and ignore their wishes..

brevity

BDI wrote: »

You come off looking worse because you can’t handle not having control. You think there is some sort of onemanupship based on what people shorten your name to or because everyone else is an idiot.

It’s mostly because I don’t like the shortened version of my name.

BDI

Ray Palmer wrote: »

Actually it is you who comes off worse. You address the person how they wish to be addressed.

My real name is 4 letters but 2 syllables so one person decided to make it one letter, not the first letter of my name and one syllable. He thought this was great because and said it saved him time. I politely asked he didn't after 2 days. He kept doing it saying he got used to it and would "try" to stop.
After another 2 days I just started ignoring him until he used my name. If he referred to me in a meeting with it I would ask who was he talking about. Other people started giving out to him as it was very clear I didn't like it and had asked him to stop publicly. The boss eventually gave him a written warning without me saying a word as it was obviously intentional belittling. He had to write me an apology.

Good Jaysis you must have a skill set that nobody else has or you wouldn’t last two days where I am. People with that attitude get cigarettes put out in their coffee round here.

brevity

Brock Turnpike wrote: »

Again, I think you have failed to grasp the story in the OP. If the person is known to you before you start working with them, then do you think it is acceptable for them to ask you to call them by their full name rather than the shortened name you have always known them by.

Do people actually believe that having your full name used in a professional setting is of benefit? Genuine question.

I guess it could be boundaries. Your friend doesn’t want people calling him by a name reserved for a more relaxed environment? Maybe he wants to keep his work persona and family/friend persona separated.

PsychoPete

"Ann Perkins"

0lddog

Cornelius Crow wrote: »

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What boils my piss though is either in real life or here on boards when people take it upon themselves to address you simply by the first letter of your name in a cloyingly matey way..

Cornelius Crow wrote: »

......... It’s hideously over-familiar and I wish people wouldn’t do it. Then again it’s a fairly immediate way of someone demonstrating that they’re a bit of a knob so perhaps it’s best to know that at the earliest opportunity.

No its not.


Just saves typing.


Get yourself a shorter handle

Stevieluvsye

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Doctor, even though I dont think they technically qualify for the title. Though i am open to correction on that.

Ye, so it turns out the correct term to address them as is as Doctor.

No wonder my dentist didn't look impressed when i called her a "tooth mechanic"

You'd think they'd have a bit of a sense of humour the amount of money they make

Ray Palmer

BDI wrote: »

Good Jaysis you must have a skill set that nobody else has or you wouldn’t last two days where I am. People with that attitude get cigarettes put out in their coffee round here.

People who do that kind of stuff are fired straight away everywhere I work. Where in a work place would people be allowed intimidate people like that? Do you work in a factory in something?

He was the ass and it was other employees who took issue with his repeatedly doing it after being asked and then told to stop.

EmmetSpiceland

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

Ye, so it turns out the correct term to address them as is as Doctor.

No wonder my dentist didn't look impressed when i called her a "tooth mechanic"

You'd think they'd have a bit of a sense of humour the amount of money they make

A, supposedly, high suicide rate though, S.

Stevieluvsye

Ray Palmer wrote: »

People who do that kind of stuff are fired straight away everywhere I work. Where in a work place would people be allowed intimidate people like that? Do you work in a factory in something?

He was the ass and it was other employees who took issue with his repeatedly doing it after being asked and then told to stop.

So was it a written warning or was he fired straight away?

Get your bleedin story straight Razor, or am i allowed to call you that?

Stevieluvsye

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

A, supposedly, high suicide rate though, S.

Interesting. They tend to work in relative isolation from my experience. I won't surmise though

EmmetSpiceland

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

Interesting. They tend to work in relative isolation from my experience. I won't surmise though

Yeah, heard it’s to do with the stress from being the sole bearer of responsibility. But that shouldn’t excuse the “gouging” some of them are up to.

Stevieluvsye

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

Yeah, heard it’s to do with the stress from being the sole bearer of responsibility. But that shouldn’t excuse the “gouging” some of them are up to.

Ye, everytime i go to get my teeth cleaned i'm basically told i need the lot of me pearly's taken out.

Back in 07 went for an extraction, needle in gum, 10 minutes later said i still had some "feeling", i was ignored, tooth pulled and i'm crying like a fcuking toddler. Once finished, i stood up and straight away hit the deck as my sugar levels were so low

Safe to say changed dentists after that

Ray Palmer

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

So was it a written warning or was he fired straight away?

Get your bleedin story straight Razor, or am i allowed to call you that?

He didn't put a cigarette out in my coffee. That was what I was referring to because the post said there would be retaliation in his work place. You would be fired for gross negligence for trying to intimidate somebody like that.

My story is completely straight. I see you think being this is funny but it is no way acceptable to behave like that in a work place.

Some of us work with multiple nationalities with names that are unusual to Ireland. You can't be making fun of people's names as if you are in school. You are no longer children and have to treat people with respect.