Are the majority of Irish stupid and greedy?

Horsebox9000

Genuine question
I notice through my trawling of news sites and their respective pages on the social media etc.. That there doesn't seem to be too many braincells in comments

Read an article about the Luas the other day and someone was legitimately moaning there wasn't one in their area even though it was a rural area with cheap rent and not much facility wise.

Read an article about the Garda and someone mentioned the Garda were scum because they arrested said poster in public before and embarrassed them.

Another person stating that the 2 new 24 hr bus routes is an attack on the Taxi drivers of Ireland by the people of Ireland and the routes should be scrapped cause now taxis might have to work harder.

And of course politics. Anything... literally anything gets announced and instantly barrages of what about the homeless and FF FG LABOUR (people don't seem to be aware Labour aint in gov anymore) not fit for purpose.

So really what I am saying is there seems to be a few pre meditated responses to the big.issues in Ireland and I notice that's all people can ever say.
Why do they not have constructive criticism and why is everything me me me?

Housing- the Governemnt should build social houses. Gov builds the houses . The houses aren't free enough or i don't like the noise of construction so don't build here. It's too high. Yada yada

I'm legit wondering do people see the same online or am I alone ? And yes I believe the comments made by some people to be stupid hence the title.
Also are we stagnating progress by always listening to and sometimes acquiescing to their demands?

redzerdrog

The majority of people.

corsav6

If your looking in the wrong place then you'll find the wrong people. Plenty of hard working, intelligent and decent people in this country.

biko

People are generally idiots, Irish too.

Salary Negotiator

No, but stupid people make more noise.

BeardySi

corsav6 wrote: »

If your looking in the wrong place then you'll find the wrong people. Plenty of hard working, intelligent and decent people in this country.

Yes, and they're generally not the ones who've got time to waste posting tripe after every news article/your tube video or keeping Joe Duffy in business...

BDI

Horrible little money grabbers most people are.

jaxxx

redzerdrog wrote: »

The majority of people.

biko wrote: »

People are generally idiots, Irish too.

BDI wrote: »

Horrible little money grabbers most people are.

^^^^^ This.

blade1

Salary Negotiator wrote: »

No, but stupid people make more noise.

The empty can rattles the most.

El_Duderino 09

redzerdrog wrote: »

The majority of people.

The majority are below average...

No not really. People are the same, but comments sections attract a certain type of comment. Likewise, academic journals attract another type of comment.

Re greedy, I think we have always had "parish pump politics" which is a byword for selfish politics. Whether it's wealthy people looking to lower taxes on wealth, or a rural community trying to get more investment in the area.

There is something which I always find uncomfortable in the way irish people talk about money. They say things like "I threw 20 euro at the charity" or "I fired x euro at him". I think it shows a complete lack of respect for money

wakka12

I've wondered this too, because of online commentary. Like I dont meet many obviously stupid people in my daily life, but when I look at any article or public fabeook post that Irish people are commenting on, just hundreds of comments that make you face palm, makes me think the average person in Ireland is not smart at all, not only that but very vocally ignorant as well

Augme

The majority vote for Fianna gael/Fianna fail so you could argue that the majority are very much focused on themselves and their own situation.

Horsebox9000

Ok best example I just found there
CAB seize millions From family claiming dole.

First response is what about the bankers and Apple.

Mad_maxx

I'm pretty dumb myself

Horsebox9000

Augme wrote: »

The majority vote for Fianna gael/Fianna fail so you could argue that the majority are very much focused on themselves and their own situation.

It's usually the non FF FG voter that seems to be prevalent in those comments though so I'm afraid that comment doesn't hold water.

Also nothing wrong with being focused on your own situation. I'm currently not focused on your situation and neither you are to mine so you're just speaking moot there .

Horsebox9000

wakka12 wrote: »

I've wondered this too, because of online commentary. Like I dont meet many obviously stupid people in my daily life, but when I look at any article or public fabeook post that Irish people are commenting on, just hundreds of comments that make you face palm, makes me think the average person in Ireland is not smart at all, not only that but very vocally ignorant as well

What you said x10000

Strumms

The taxi drivers remark is not unexpected, there has always been a hardcore of individuals within that industry that don’t believe that they are a public service to enable the public get from A to B but more the public are there to provide them and enable them and their families to make a good living..

A service is proposed where the hundreds of people who work in the airport at night and throughout the night now have an opportunity to get to work and home using affordable public transport.... certain taxi drivers visualize this as an ‘attack’ on them ! Right... using a bus either the company or the individual will be paying about 40% of what a taxi fare might be depending on destination... so roughly 60% of a saving... their hard earned cash in their pocket to spend on themselves and their families...also people who need to get out there for early flights benefit the same, saving more with not paying luggage charges etc...

Taxi industry must realize that they are there to serve the public, not the other way around..when other aspects of public transport become increasingly flexible to offer people more affordable and efficient options to reach their destination its a good thing... ‘public’ transport is to serve the ‘public’...

The majority of Opening Posts on Boards.ie would indicate you are correct OP.

barneygumble99

I work with the public every day and I genuinely have to ask myself how the **** some people manage to dress themselves in the morning. The dumbest questions you’re asked.
Don’t know how some people manage to do tasks like booking flights and having the wherewithall to get to an airport and through security. Things that require a bit of organisation and thought. In general a lot of people want others to do everything for them and don’t want to think for themselves. No plan B whatsoever.

Horsebox9000

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The majority of Opening Posts on Boards.ie would indicate you are correct OP.

You should do a tour with that comedy show. You might sell 2 tickets

Tammy!

Haven't read the op but I totally agree. When i was five or six, I was in the shop with my bestest friend and our mams. We ran over to the book/magazine section. I picked up a Kylie and Jason book. My friend looked around but there were no other Kylie and Jason books left. All that was left were loads of these Jason books.

My friend got upset because she wanted the Kylie and Jason book. So as noble, kind-hearted six year olds do and in the name of friendship, I said, 'ok, neither of us will take this Kylie and Jason book. Let's both get a (crappy) Jason book' and she agreed.

As soon as I put down the Kylie and Jason book, what did she do? Picked it up and ran off to her mam and got her mam to buy the ****ing thing. I was left getting a stupid Jason book.

What a stupid, greedy bitch right?!!

Horsebox9000

Tammy! wrote: »

Haven't read the op but I totally agree. When i was five or six, I was in the shop with my bestest friend and our mams. We ran over to the book/magazine section. I picked up a Kylie and Jason book. My friend looked around but there were no other Kylie and Jason books left. All that was left were loads of these Jason books.

My friend got upset because she wanted the Kylie and Jason book. So as noble, kind-hearted six year olds do and in the name of friendship, I said, 'ok, neither of us will take this Kylie and Jason book. Let's both get a (crappy) Jason book' and she agreed.

As soon as I put down the Kylie and Jason book, what did she do? Picked it up and ran off to her mam and got her mam to buy the ****ing thing. I was left getting a stupid Jason book.

What a stupid, greedy bitch right?!!

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stefanovich

Horsebox9000 wrote: »

Genuine question
I notice through my trawling of news sites and their respective pages on the social media etc.. That there doesn't seem to be too many braincells in comments

Read an article about the Luas the other day and someone was legitimately moaning there wasn't one in there area even though it was a rural area with cheap rent and not much facility wise.

Read an article about the Garda and someone mentioned the Garda were scum because they arrested said poster in public before and embarrassed them.

Another person stating that the 2 new 24 hr bus routes is an attack on the Taxi drivers of Ireland by the people of Ireland and the routes should be scrapped cause now taxis might have to work harder.

And of course politics. Anything... literally anything gets announced and instantly barrages of what about the homeless and FF FG LABOUR (people don't seem to be aware Labour aint in gov anymore) not fit for purpose.

So really what I am saying is there seems to be a few pre meditated responses to the big.issues in Ireland and I notice that's all people can ever say.
Why do they not have constructive criticism and why is everything me me me?

Housing- the Governemnt should build social houses. Gov builds the houses . The houses aren't free enough or i don't like the noise of construction so don't build here. It's too high. Yada yada

I'm legit wondering do people see the same online or am I alone ? And yes I believe the comments made by some people to be stupid hence the title.
Also are we stagnating progress by always listening to and sometimes acquiescing to their demands?

People are stupid. The trick is the exploit that to your advantage.

Tammy!

Horsebox9000 wrote: »

0/10

0/10 for what? That did happen, I didn't realize it was a competition.

Are you just pissed off because I wasn't arsed to read your op?

at a macro level we're not great in a lot of ways, probably as a nation/society/electorate we have trust issues.

we don't have an adult in the room

i think its understandable, what the brits done on us became what we done on ourselves and now where do we look?

at an individual level, or in fits and starts, we're an alright bunch.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Are there stupid and greedy people in Ireland? Yes.

Are the majority thus? No.

Junkyard Tom

Half of the population have below average IQ's.

Raconteuse

I don't know if it's the majority but it's a sizeable number. No personal responsibility, no knowledge of anything - just brainless soundbites, and me me me.

Probably seems amplified because of social media though.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Half of the population have below average IQ's.

That's mean.

Horsebox9000

Raconteuse wrote: »

I don't know if it's the majority but it's a sizeable number. No personal responsibility, no knowledge of anything - just brainless soundbites, and me me me.

Probably seems amplified because of social media though.

This
Maybe it's enhanced via social media for sure but I just feel like the "what about the" and the "me me me" mantra is so much more prevalent these days. Defintiely agree with you on the personal responsibility too. Everything is blamed on someone/something else.

Maybe someone just pissed in my corn flakes this morning but I really feel this mindset to be way more prevalent in Ireland these days.

El_Duderino 09

barneygumble99 wrote: »

I work with the public every day and I genuinely have to ask myself how the **** some people manage to dress themselves in the morning. The dumbest questions you’re asked.
Don’t know how some people manage to do tasks like booking flights and having the wherewithall to get to an airport and through security. Things that require a bit of organisation and thought. In general a lot of people want others to do everything for them and don’t want to think for themselves. No plan B whatsoever.

Yeah, yet people do those things even if they ask stupid questions along the way. Around half of people are below average. It's not that surprising when you think about it.

randomspud

barneygumble99 wrote: »

I work with the public every day and I genuinely have to ask myself how the **** some people manage to dress themselves in the morning. The dumbest questions you’re asked.
Don’t know how some people manage to do tasks like booking flights and having the wherewithall to get to an airport and through security. Things that require a bit of organisation and thought. In general a lot of people want others to do everything for them and don’t want to think for themselves. No plan B whatsoever.

I was going to post something very similar.


Working in a job dealing with the public will reveal to you how stupid and helpless most people are. People go on about the "nanny state" but in reality we live in a "mammy/daddy state" where most people need their hand held by a responsible grown-up to complete even the most basic of tasks.


I've had it with people. I love to get home from work and just shut myself away from the world and i do my best to only have to interact with people on my own terms outside of work.


I'll probably become a virtual recluse once i retire and i'll be 100% delighted with it.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Chocolate Orange1001 wrote: »

Don't worry, IQ isn't everything.

Tammy!

Raconteuse wrote: »

I don't know if it's the majority but it's a sizeable number. No personal responsibility, no knowledge of anything - just brainless soundbites, and me me me.

Probably seems amplified because of social media though.

It's just social media. Social media can come across as me me me because it's an unnatural form of communication. I mean, we actually pose and take pictures of ourselfs now!! That was unheard of years ago. It would have been thought of as vain. People are just trying to communicate in an unnatural environment where announcements about what you ate today or what your opinion is on the latest news topic seem a little bit more important because they're in writing.

Social media is not social. It's like people thinking out loud. Stuff they would filter in real life.

Edgware

stefanovich wrote: »

People are stupid. The trick is the exploit that to your advantage.

Correct. The " I see the good in everyone" brigade make it so easy they have taken the fun out of it

ChikiChiki

Greedy since the Celtic Tiger days yes.

emeo

Raconteuse wrote: »

I don't know if it's the majority but it's a sizeable number. No personal responsibility, no knowledge of anything - just brainless soundbites, and me me me.

Probably seems amplified because of social media though.

Agreed, with the culture of "Influncers" in this country its highlighted,
giving every dope with a smartphone a platform.

Look at that drink driving fool from Fermoy, shes not even sorry.

Consequently, look at that drink driving championing Healy Rae fool- the odds are really stacked against us.

Ash.J.Williams

Just reading about singer Ronan tynans fall from grace. He’s acting like it was harmless slip of the tongue stateside but to me it read as a typical ignorant middle class Ireland situation.
https://m.independent.ie/entertainment/music/someone-tried-to-run-me-over-with-an-suv-says-tenor-ronan-tynan-38720653.html

IAMAMORON

No they are not.

However all culchies are inherently stupid and greedy. They also consider themselves more Irish than the rest of the country, so the argument will continue.

cnocbui

Salary Negotiator wrote: »

No, but stupid people make more noise.

In my experience, the squeaky wheel, gets the oil, so perhaps not so stupid.

extra gravy

Deal with the public as part of my job, there are a lot of stupid people out there and it's one of the reasons I'm cynical about democracy in general. Idiots getting to vote other idiots into power. But as a wise man once said, its the worst form of government apart from all the rest.

Lewis_Benson

Yes.

cnocbui

IAMAMORON wrote: »

No they are not.

However all culchies are inherently stupid and greedy. They also consider themselves more Irish than the rest of the country, so the argument will continue.

Can't disagree with the username...

NIMAN

General threads like this could be applied to any nation or people, a lot of folk on Boards seem to think only the Irish are afflicted by greed, pettiness, ugliness, stubbornness, stupidity ..........

Of course there are stupid and greedy Irish people. Irish people are humans and many humans are stupid and greedy.

Rufeo

I think what Irish are, are the most begrudging people on the planet. See that thread on Andrea Corr the other day.

Raconteuse

NIMAN wrote: »

General threads like this could be applied to any nation or people, a lot of folk on Boards seem to think only the Irish are afflicted by greed, pettiness, ugliness, stubbornness, stupidity ..........

Of course there are stupid and greedy Irish people. Irish people are humans and many humans are stupid and greedy.

I'm the first to complain about self loathing bollox but it is more prevalent in this country - and other Anglophone countries too though. It's not just an Irish thing.

I mean Germanic societies seem far more about everyone recognising that they live in a society and have to pull together.

El_Duderino 09

IAMAMORON wrote: »

No they are not.

However all culchies are inherently stupid and greedy. They also consider themselves more Irish than the rest of the country, so the argument will continue.

Good trolling requires a degree of subtlety.

1/10

Raconteuse

barneygumble99 wrote: »

I work with the public every day and I genuinely have to ask myself how the **** some people manage to dress themselves in the morning. The dumbest questions you’re asked.
Don’t know how some people manage to do tasks like booking flights and having the wherewithall to get to an airport and through security. Things that require a bit of organisation and thought. In general a lot of people want others to do everything for them and don’t want to think for themselves. No plan B whatsoever.

Aye, the laziness is astounding. I genuinely saw a post to Buy And Sell written on a Saturday night: "wat tym duz d dentist open at". ****ing hell.

blade1

Rufeo wrote: »

I think what Irish are, are the most begrudging people on the planet. See that thread on Andrea Corr the other day.

I find selective memory in people from all over a bigger problem.

3or 4 people out of 7 pages put her down.

Rufeo

Rufeo wrote: »

I think what Irish are, are the most begrudging people on the planet. See that thread on Andrea Corr the other day.

Oh for God's sake..

EmmetSpiceland

Very sensitive too, OP.