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2019-2020 Off Season Thread

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    #182
    Itssoeasy
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    ShyMets wrote: »
    The last two months have been a PR disaster. Baseball really had an opportunity to lift peoples spirits and regain some of the popularity that's its lost.

    Sadly they blew it. A golden chance missed. And one they will come to regret

    The last two months as you say have been a mess. It's gone from "ah they won't make that mistake again" to "oh Christ maybe they will" to "they are going to mess this up AGAIN."


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    #183
    jack presley
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    Getting more contentious now

    https://twitter.com/MLBPA_News/status/1272659761155248131


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    #184
    ShyMets
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    jack presley wrote: »
    Getting more contentious now

    https://twitter.com/MLBPA_News/status/1272659761155248131

    The negotiations for the next CBA should be interesting


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    #185
    Igotadose
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    Mets looking to extend a $250million loan by a year. Despite the franchise being worth over $2.4 bn, inept management and Madoff have forced the team to acquire loans to keep afloat. The loss of revenues this year seems to imply they won't pay off their loan and are asking the bankers to extend it a year
    https://variety.com/2020/sports/news/new-york-mets-loan-1234635823/


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    #186
    jack presley
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    A lot of players (Trout, Harper, Scherzer, Alonzo for example) tweeting to Manfred "tell us when and where" putting pressure on MLB. I read somewhere this morning (can't remember whee) that there are between 6-8 owners who would prefer to cancel the season entirely at this stage.


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    #187
    jack presley
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    In hindsight, that 3 state plan that was proposed early on in the discussions probably doesn't look like it would have panned out too well

    https://twitter.com/ScottGottliebMD/status/1273196451565363200


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    #188
    Joe Columbo
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    jack presley wrote: »
    A lot of players (Trout, Harper, Scherzer, Alonzo for example) tweeting to Manfred "tell us when and where" putting pressure on MLB. I read somewhere this morning (can't remember whee) that there are between 6-8 owners who would prefer to cancel the season entirely at this stage.




    Looking at sports in America in general at times it feels that both the owners and the players in the 3 American team sports are simply obsessed with money and seem to almost view having games almost as an inconvenience.


    The PGA tour was back last week without an ounce of trouble for any parties involved in it and yet the parties involved in the other sports are constantly bickering with each other over everything.


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    #189
    jack presley
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    Well that changed quickly....

    https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/1273320338017968130


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    #190
    ShyMets
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    jack presley wrote: »
    Well that changed quickly....

    https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/1273320338017968130

    Great news


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    #191
    jack presley
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    Well that was a nice few minutes

    https://twitter.com/MLBPA_News/status/1273330040306978816


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    #192
    circular flexing
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    Joe Columbo wrote: »
    Looking at sports in America in general at times it feels that both the owners and the players in the 3 American team sports are simply obsessed with money and seem to almost view having games almost as an inconvenience.


    The PGA tour was back last week without an ounce of trouble for any parties involved in it and yet the parties involved in the other sports are constantly bickering with each other over everything.


    Did PGA tour reduce prize money?


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    #193
    circular flexing
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    jack presley wrote: »
    Well that was a nice few minutes

    https://twitter.com/MLBPA_News/status/1273330040306978816


    Honestly Heyman has been pretty spot on in the past so I think they are close to agreement. MLBPA are just saying that it's not fully agreed.


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    #194
    ShyMets
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    I see there is a proposal to bring in a universal DH for the 2020 & 2021 season.

    But is always struck as slightly nonsensical to have it in on League but not the other


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    #195
    jack presley
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    5 Phillies and 3 staff members have tested positive for Covid19.

    They've closed their trading facility.


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    #196
    jack presley
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    jack presley wrote: »
    5 Phillies and 3 staff members have tested positive for Covid19.

    They've closed their trading facility.

    Toronto have shut down their facility too after a player displayed symptoms. This could be the 'get out' clause for baseball is looking for to save face. Postpone the season on health grounds and hope people will forget they were arguing over money.


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    #197
    circular flexing
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    MLBPA have rejected the latest offer. It’s now up to Manfred to order resumption although apparently he’s not too keen on it.


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    #198
    Igotadose
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    Looks like game on, in July: https://www.mlb.com/news/major-league-baseball-statement-on-2020

    "
    “In view of this rejection, the MLB Clubs have unanimously voted to proceed with the 2020 season under the terms of the March 26th Agreement. The provisions listed above will not be operative.

    “In order to produce a schedule with a specific number of games, we are asking that the Players Association provide to us by 5:00 p.m. (ET) tomorrow with two pieces of information. The first is whether players will be able to report to camp within seven days (by July 1st). The second is whether the Players Association will agree on the Operating Manual which contains the health and safety protocols necessary to give us the best opportunity to conduct and complete our regular season and Postseason.”"


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    #199
    circular flexing
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    Looks like July 1st will be the date for players to report back and 24-26 July for start of regular season. 60 games long but no expanded postseason and possibly no universal DH. Not sure if a 60 game season could be called legitimate but I guess it's probably better than nothing.


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    #200
    boccy23
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    With more players testing positive and such animosity on both sides, I would not be at all surprised if the season just didn't happen.


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    #201
    jack presley
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    boccy23 wrote: »
    With more players testing positive and such animosity on both sides, I would not be at all surprised if the season just didn't happen.

    Yeah, unfortunately that seems to be a big possibility. 3 Rockies tested positive yesterday.


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    #202
    ShyMets
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    jack presley wrote: »
    Yeah, unfortunately that seems to be a big possibility. 3 Rockies tested positive yesterday.

    Its perfect get out of jail card. Considering how rampant Covid is in some states, scrapping the season might be the best & safest option


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    #203
    jack presley
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    I find these kind of tweets useful

    https://twitter.com/DevanFink/status/1275589966022803458


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    #204
    circular flexing
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    jack presley wrote: »
    I find these kind of tweets useful

    https://twitter.com/DevanFink/status/1275589966022803458


    And the 2017 Astros were cheaters.


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    #205
    jack presley
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    I wonder how much MLB.TV will be for the shortened season. I couldn't see a price on the website. Suppose they're waiting for a schedule to be a finalised.

    Hopefully there'll be plenty of day games in the schedule.


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    #206
    jack presley
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    Yankees v Nationals to kick things off on July 23 is getting rumoured.


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    #207
    ShyMets
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    jack presley wrote: »
    Yankees v Nationals to kick things off on July 23 is getting rumoured.

    Not a bad way to kick off the season. A 2pm EST game would fit the bill nicely. But unlikely


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    #208
    jack presley
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    Ryan Zimmerman first big name to say he's not playing.

    https://twitter.com/CAA_Baseball/status/1277684964667121667


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    #209
    ShyMets
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    Joe Ross, Mike Leake, and Ian Desmond has also opted out of this season.

    I suspect they wont be the last


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    #210
    jack presley
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    Although it was inevitable, minor's league baseball officially cancelled.

    https://twitter.com/MiLB/status/1278070823203504130


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    #211
    Igotadose
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    ShyMets wrote: »
    Joe Ross, Mike Leake, and Ian Desmond has also opted out of this season.

    I suspect they wont be the last

    Ian Desmond's instagram piece is worth reading. Not linking it here, it's political, but I highly recommend it.


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