Judgement day for Maria Bailey.

Allinall

tayto lover wrote: »

Read today that Leo signed off on former Taoiseach having their allowances reinstated at €300,000 per annum. Meanwhile a child in Temple Street Hospital had his chemo cancelled because there was no bed for him.
I’m disgusted at that.

What allowances? Genuine question.

I thought they got their pensions, a driver and a guard outside their house.

We’re any of those taken away at some point?

What was reinstated?

Fann Linn

Allinall wrote: »

What allowances? Genuine question.

I thought they got their pensions, a driver and a guard outside their house.

We’re any of those taken away at some point?

What was reinstated?

Printing, secretaries, free airport VIP lounges for life. Enda removed everything in 2012 apparently.
Varadkar reinstated everything in 2017.

It wasnt me123

Allinall wrote: »

What allowances? Genuine question.

I thought they got their pensions, a driver and a guard outside their house.

We’re any of those taken away at some point?

What was reinstated?

1.7 millions spent on 5 traveller houses in Thurles but still empty until co co provide stables - outrageous

WishUWereHere

It wasnt me123 wrote: »

1.7 millions spent on 5 traveller houses in Thurles but still empty until co co provide stables - outrageous

You serious? Those houses still empty? Surely there are 5 families somewhere in Tipperary that would love a roof over their heads?

suicide_circus

WishUWereHere wrote: »

Surely there are 5 families somewhere in Tipperary that would love a roof over their heads?

there are but they'd be burnt out if they took them

Rows Grower

It wasnt me123 wrote: »

1.7 millions spent on 5 traveller houses in Thurles but still empty until co co provide stables - outrageous

Totally agree, what were the council thinking when they didn't build stables for each house as well?

It's not like this hasn't happened before.

Kermit.de.frog

suicide_circus wrote: »

there are but they'd be burnt out if they took them

So at what point is society going to say...we have had enough of this bullsh!t?

A sect that is a law on to themselves, who contribute nothing to this society and terrorise anyone who stands up to them.

There has to come a point at which we collectively say "enough".

Where is that point?

suicide_circus

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

So at what point is society going to say...we have had enough of this bullsh!t?

A sect that is a law on to themselves, who contribute nothing to this society and terrorise anyone who stands up to them.

There has to come a point at which we collectively say "enough".

Where is that point?

no time soon. orwellian special status and hate speech laws will see to that.

Bullocks

Allinall wrote: »

What allowances? Genuine question.

I thought they got their pensions, a driver and a guard outside their house.

We’re any of those taken away at some point?

What was reinstated?

I wonder does Bertie or Enda bother with a guard outside their house? Hardly much need when they weren't killed already......

Higgins5473

Bullocks wrote: »

I wonder does Bertie or Enda bother with a guard outside their house? Hardly much need when they weren't killed already......

Can you think of a more sh*t job

sportsfan90

Is the guards outside the house of former Taoiseach just when they retire from politics or immediately after they're not in the position anymore?

Whatever about Enda etc who were well into their 60's, Leo is currently 40. If FG have a bad election in the Spring and he isn't Taoiseach anymore, imagine what it will cost to keep guards outside his home for possibly another 50+ years if he lives to a good age.

Bullocks

Higgins5473 wrote: »

Can you think of a more sh*t job

I'd say standing outside Berties house could be a bit of craic

salmocab

sportsfan90 wrote: »

Is the guards outside the house of former Taoiseach just when they retire from politics or immediately after they're not in the position anymore?

Whatever about Enda etc who were well into their 60's, Leo is currently 40. If FG have a bad election in the Spring and he isn't Taoiseach anymore, imagine what it will cost to keep guards outside his home for possibly another 50+ years if he lives to a good age.

Think Taoiseach has one for life as do presidents not positive though. Minister for defence too but only whilst in office and for a short while after. Friend of mines dad had one after he was minister and two weeks after they lost their guard in the garden their house was broken into.

tayto lover

Surely the job of protecting those ministers should be done by the army?

banie01

tayto lover wrote: »

Surely the job of protecting those ministers should be done by the army?

To what end?
The army have no powers of arrest and the vast majority of interventions made by a CP officer will be a direction to leave the area, which a member of the DF has no statutory footing to make.
Whilst they are an aid to the civil power, they are not a close protection unit nor should they be treated as one.

The bottom line is, whichever branch provides the protection the cost will be borne by the state so it's pointless which of the budget headings it comes under.

sportsfan90

Surely instead of such a huge expense and use of Garda resources, they could just be given a once-off payoff of say 100k that would allow them to install whatever security measures (walls, gates, alarms, cameras) necessary themselves.

salmocab

sportsfan90 wrote: »

Surely instead of such a huge expense and use of Garda resources, they could just be given a payoff of say 100k that would allow them to install whatever security measures (walls, gates, cameras) necessary themselves.

Well I would think the argument should be at what point it’s no longer necessary. Cosgraves house had a guard outside it until a while after he died. I hardly think he was under any threat.

WishUWereHere

sportsfan90 wrote: »

Is the guards outside the house of former Taoiseach just when they retire from politics or immediately after they're not in the position anymore?

Whatever about Enda etc who were well into their 60's, Leo is currently 40. If FG have a bad election in the Spring and he isn't Taoiseach anymore, imagine what it will cost to keep guards outside his home for possibly another 50+ years if he lives to a good age.

Regarding EK, I have seen him traipsing around Dublin many times, nearly always alone. Perhaps there were plain clothes Gardaí behind, but it didn’t seem that way.

happyoutscan

WishUWereHere wrote: »

Regarding EK, I have seen him traipsing around Dublin many times, nearly always alone. Perhaps there were plain clothes Gardaí behind, but it didn’t seem that way.

Enda usually goes without, doesnt like it.

blanch152

sportsfan90 wrote: »

Is the guards outside the house of former Taoiseach just when they retire from politics or immediately after they're not in the position anymore?

Whatever about Enda etc who were well into their 60's, Leo is currently 40. If FG have a bad election in the Spring and he isn't Taoiseach anymore, imagine what it will cost to keep guards outside his home for possibly another 50+ years if he lives to a good age.

When you see the nonsense posted on social media about Taoisigh, you understand why.

Bullocks wrote: »

I wonder does Bertie or Enda bother with a guard outside their house? Hardly much need when they weren't killed already......

Suckit

https://www.independent.ie/videos/irish-news/it-seems-that-the-cure-for-whiplash-is-a-compensation-payment-leo-varadkar-on-reforming-insurance-industry-38771101.html

"It seems that the cure for whiplash is a compensation payment" - Leo Varadkar on reforming insurance industry

If only there was somebody he could ask to be sure...

https://www.broadsheet.ie/2019/06/05/whiplash-away/

171170

And shameless Ratso Farrell lets the Insurance Industry have it between the eyes!

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/insurance-sector-telling-us-porky-pies-for-quite-some-time-fine-gael-td-alan-farrell-38796987.html


Is there anything more revolting than a publicly exposed chancer trying to be sanctimonious?

Snow Garden

Farrell epitomises how arrogant and dysfunctional Fine Gael have become. They are now a party of self serving dimwits.

James Brown

Snow Garden wrote: »

Farrell epitomises how arrogant and dysfunctional Fine Gael have become. They are now a party of self serving dimwits.

Noonan is pretty sharp IMO.

HBC08

171170 wrote: »

And shameless Ratso Farrell lets the Insurance Industry have it between the eyes!

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/insurance-sector-telling-us-porky-pies-for-quite-some-time-fine-gael-td-alan-farrell-38796987.html


Is there anything more revolting than a publicly exposed chancer trying to be sanctimonious?

Jesus.Just read that link,its gone beyond a joke at this stage.
How is this lying chancer coming out with this?
Is there nobody there to call him out?

Plumbthedepths

Another headache for working parents in the new year, the government sat on their hands despite representation made about the looming crisis.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/creches-affected-by-insurer-leaving-the-market-will-face-rises-in-the-region-of-100-971274.html

171170

HBC08 wrote: »

Jesus.Just read that link,its gone beyond a joke at this stage.
How is this lying chancer coming out with this?
Is there nobody there to call him out?

The voters of Malahide (where he lives) and the rest of Fingal, hopefully.

Hence his bout of populist, hypocritical sanctimoniousness as the election looms, the little piece of manure.

171170

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Another headache for working parents in the new year, the government sat on their hands despite representation made about the looming crisis.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/creches-affected-by-insurer-leaving-the-market-will-face-rises-in-the-region-of-100-971274.html

So Plumbo wants the government to throw piles of taxpayers' money at the Insurance industry! :eek: Has Plumbo lost his few remaining marbles, we ask ourselves in bewilderment!

WishUWereHere

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Another headache for working parents in the new year, the government sat on their hands despite representation made about the looming crisis.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/creches-affected-by-insurer-leaving-the-market-will-face-rises-in-the-region-of-100-971274.html

Typical of this government, reactive
, not proactive.

As for Farrell? Sincerely the voters in North Dublin smeii the roses come the next election. Notice Madigan is keeping very quiet of late.

Plumbthedepths

171170 wrote: »

So Plumbo wants the government to throw piles of taxpayers' money at the Insurance industry! :eek: Has Plumbo lost his few remaining marbles, we ask ourselves in bewilderment!

When you stoop to attacking the poster instead of the post it's easy to dismiss you.