Were all socialists spoilt as children?

realitykeeper

Children who grow up thinking the world owes them a living tend to be spoit.

Socialists also tend to think this way, hence the question, were socialists spoilt as children? I am not saying they were necessarily because I think an adult who displays behaviour similar to a spoilt brat were I suspect raised by permissive parents. This is a particular parenting style were kids basically do what they want without boundaries and often they get what they want if the parent is also over indulgent.

I see this spoilt type of adult everyday in my line of work. Sometimes they drink alcohol when they really shouldn`t and they fail to take instruction even when they are sober (which they are most of the time).

What should we as a nation do to stamp out spoilt behaviour? Do all new parents need to be thought the authoritative parenting method? Do we need bigger prisons and forced labor camps for those who are already grown up but are spoilt and in need of reforming? Spoilt people gravitate to a life of crime so discipline must be rigorous and immediate in my opinion.

This system of waiting until they have a lot of offenses committed before they are incarcerated, simply won`t do.

Arghus

Blast it with piss.

Tom Mann Centuria

This dry sh*te is what passes as drunk posting these days?

You do realise most parents never attended any lessons in parenting? They make it up as they go, or copy their own parents. I do often wonder why Home Economics classes were removed from schools. Probably couldn't allow a useful subject for students to learn.

The parenting part was the only thing I understood from your post. The rest? Woosh.

the beer revolu

How come most Christians have right wing, conservative tendencies, while jesus, as he is portrayed, was very much anti establishment and, arguably, socialist?

Cabaal

the beer revolu wrote: »

How come most Christians have right wing, conservative tendencies, while jesus, as he is portrayed, was very much anti establishment and, arguably, socialist?

Bingo!

Wanderer78

realitykeeper wrote: »

Children who grow up thinking the world owes them a living tend to be spoit.

Socialists also tend to think this way, hence the question, were socialists spoilt as children? I am not saying they were necessarily because I think an adult who displays behaviour similar to a spoilt brat were I suspect raised by permissive parents. This is a particular parenting style were kids basically do what they want without boundaries and often they get what they want if the parent is also over indulgent.

I see this spoilt type of adult everyday in my line of work. Sometimes they drink alcohol when they really shouldn`t and they fail to take instruction even when they are sober (which they are most of the time).

What should we as a nation do to stamp out spoilt behaviour? Do all new parents need to be thought the authoritative parenting method? Do we need bigger prisons and forced labor camps for those who are already grown up but are spoilt and in need of reforming? Spoilt people gravitate to a life of crime so discipline must be rigorous and immediate in my opinion.

This system of waiting until they have a lot of offenses committed before they are incarcerated, simply won`t do.

are there actually many socialists in our society? id completely agree with libertarian economist deirdre mccloskey, that most people would chose to live in a capitalist economy rather than a socialist one. op, you seem to have an unhealthy obsession with lots of things, such as authoritative rule, socialism etc

is the failure to take instructions due to your failures in communication, failures to respect work colleagues etc?

you also clearly have little or no knowledge in the root causes of criminality, so hopefully your line of work isnt in that sector.

Timberrrrrrrr

realitykeeper wrote: »

Children who grow up thinking the world owes them a living tend to be spoit.

Socialists also tend to think this way, hence the question, were socialists spoilt as children? I am not saying they were necessarily because I think an adult who displays behaviour similar to a spoilt brat were I suspect raised by permissive parents. This is a particular parenting style were kids basically do what they want without boundaries and often they get what they want if the parent is also over indulgent.

I see this spoilt type of adult everyday in my line of work. Sometimes they drink alcohol when they really shouldn`t and they fail to take instruction even when they are sober (which they are most of the time).

What should we as a nation do to stamp out spoilt behaviour? Do all new parents need to be thought the authoritative parenting method? Do we need bigger prisons and forced labor camps for those who are already grown up but are spoilt and in need of reforming? Spoilt people gravitate to a life of crime so discipline must be rigorous and immediate in my opinion.

This system of waiting until they have a lot of offenses committed before they are incarcerated, simply won`t do.

You want to put people into forced labour camps for their beliefs? Not very christian of you! Your ideals come straight out of the North Korean regimes way of thinking.

Day Lewin

Was reared a socialist. In fact my Da always claimed to be a Communist. In that most painful of environments, middle-class poverty.

Surrounded by mé-féiners and ex-rural gombeenmen, he was scrupulous about social justice and completely devoid of snobbery.

The complete opposite of "spoilt"

OP, what are you on about?

silverharp

Day Lewin wrote: »

Was reared a socialist. In fact my Da always claimed to be a Communist. In that most painful of environments, middle-class poverty.

Surrounded by mé-féiners and ex-rural gombeenmen, he was scrupulous about social justice and completely devoid of snobbery.

The complete opposite of "spoilt"

OP, what are you on about?

generational thing then? socialism would have seemed appealing when there was more of a class system in place and you were hemmed in at the bottom. today though at least going by internet and youtube socialists types , they tend to look middle class to me which means they have had a lot of resources and opportunities thrown at them over the years. To me they come across as failure to lift types and are trying to make their problems my problem.

branie2

I don't think so

banie01

Someone should really take the time to set realitykeeper up on a play date with Mr Fegelien...
Think of the fun that would ensure there

Tired Gardener

banie01 wrote: »

Someone should really take the time to set realitykeeper up on a play date with Mr Fegelien...
Think of the fun that would ensure there

Brilliant, can we also add in Loveyourvibes?

banie01

Tired Gardener wrote: »

Brilliant, can we also add in Loveyourvibes?

Jesus H Moses Christ....
Would you duel with God!!!!

It would be playing with forces beyond human ken :pac:

NeinNeinNein

the beer revolu wrote: »

How come most Christians have right wing, conservative tendencies, while jesus, as he is portrayed, was very much anti establishment and, arguably, socialist?

Jesus' mammy was unmarried which led to him becoming a socialist or something.

Mad_maxx

Socialists are children

Mad_maxx

the beer revolu wrote: »

How come most Christians have right wing, conservative tendencies, while jesus, as he is portrayed, was very much anti establishment and, arguably, socialist?

Catholicism is deeply socialist economically

BDI

A socialist wants everything you have except your job.

Edgware

At least we have good educated socialists drawn from the better off classes like Murphy Barrett and Daly. They are well able to provide leadership to the great unwashed who cant think for themelves

Mad_maxx

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Catholicism is deeply socialist economically

Catholicism is more communist than socialist. That degree of corruption and absolutism is required.

Socialism in it's purest form isn't a terrible idea. It's just that it, as with all political or social ideologies implemented by people, fails badly in the real world.

Edgware

"When I give food to the poor they call me a saint, when I ask why they are poor they call me a Communist"

realitykeeper

the beer revolu wrote: »

How come most Christians have right wing, conservative tendencies, while jesus, as he is portrayed, was very much anti establishment and, arguably, socialist?

I made a similar point some time back about Communists tending to be atheist and the fact that Communism is a failed ideology.

realitykeeper

Wanderer78 wrote: »

is the failure to take instructions due to your failures in communication, failures to respect work colleagues etc?

you also clearly have little or no knowledge in the root causes of criminality, so hopefully your line of work isnt in that sector.

Actually I was talking about other people failing to take instruction.

I think I have a better insight into the causes of criminality than most. That fact that you disagree is proof.

realitykeeper

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

You want to put people into forced labour camps for their beliefs? Not very christian of you! Your ideals come straight out of the North Korean regimes way of thinking.

Surely applied humility can only be a good thing.

Timberrrrrrrr

realitykeeper wrote: »

Surely applied humility can only be a good thing.

Forced labour = applied humility?

Re-education = applied humility?

What about a little thing called human rights? Should we be able to put christians in said camps and give them a bit of "applied humility" for believing in a "god"?

Drug addicts? Alcoholics? Where do you draw your line? Next you will want to send "naughty children" to kiddie camp and unwed mothers to workhouses :rolleyes:

realitykeeper

silverharp wrote: »

generational thing then? socialism would have seemed appealing when there was more of a class system in place and you were hemmed in at the bottom. today though at least going by internet and youtube socialists types , they tend to look middle class to me which means they have had a lot of resources and opportunities thrown at them over the years. To me they come across as failure to lift types and are trying to make their problems my problem.

To be fair, I am very sympathetic to the young people who have been dispossessed by the greedy older generations which hoard the wealth and pulled the ladder up after them. The young get necklaced with the 200 billion euro + debt we accumulated.

realitykeeper

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Catholicism is deeply socialist economically

Lapsed Catholics are.

Varik

Big difference between socialist worker movements of the previous century, and the middle class idiots today.

Timberrrrrrrr

realitykeeper wrote: »

Lapsed Catholics are.

Was jesus a socialist?

realitykeeper

Edgware wrote: »

At least we have good educated socialists drawn from the better off classes like Murphy Barrett and Daly. They are well able to provide leadership to the great unwashed who cant think for themelves

Just like Robert Emmet. Am I wrong or are they all a bunch of spoilt rich kids?

realitykeeper

Edgware wrote: »

"When I give food to the poor they call me a saint, when I ask why they are poor they call me a Communist"

When you suggest they get a job they call you a fascist.