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Were all socialists spoilt as children?

realitykeeper

Children who grow up thinking the world owes them a living tend to be spoit.

Socialists also tend to think this way, hence the question, were socialists spoilt as children? I am not saying they were necessarily because I think an adult who displays behaviour similar to a spoilt brat were I suspect raised by permissive parents. This is a particular parenting style were kids basically do what they want without boundaries and often they get what they want if the parent is also over indulgent.

I see this spoilt type of adult everyday in my line of work. Sometimes they drink alcohol when they really shouldn`t and they fail to take instruction even when they are sober (which they are most of the time).

What should we as a nation do to stamp out spoilt behaviour? Do all new parents need to be thought the authoritative parenting method? Do we need bigger prisons and forced labor camps for those who are already grown up but are spoilt and in need of reforming? Spoilt people gravitate to a life of crime so discipline must be rigorous and immediate in my opinion.

This system of waiting until they have a lot of offenses committed before they are incarcerated, simply won`t do.

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[Deleted User]

realitykeeper wrote: »

Children who grow up thinking the world owes them a living tend to be spoit.

Socialists also tend to think this way, hence the question, were socialists spoilt as children?

As you have not clearly defined what a "socialist" is, I am uncertain what we are talking about. I could do the same by not defining what a capitalist is, and stumble along with an alternative anecdotal and terribly broad sweeping generalisation of poor little rich kids, who "grow up thinking the world owes them a living" and "tend to be spoiled."

Questions to what extent children of multi-millionaire and billionaire parents living across the pond in capitalistic America (top 3% who control 80% of the wealth in America), with servants attending to all their children's needs from the moment of birth until their last breath (like the current holder of the US presidency), including admission to the most prestigious, expensive schools and universities, the highest priced and best US health care, privileged access to high status and paying occupations, and access to powerful established business networks going back generations.

Then again, without specific definitions, I would exercise a bit of caution before discussing what a socialist or a capitalist is, or what may be also termed as social welfare, or alternatively capitalistic WEALTHfare, and if either or both of these life chances may or may not lead to children who think the "world owes them a living," or "tend to be spoiled."

Just my 2-euros in answer to your question...

Raconteuse

All? Obviously not.

Is there a very privileged middle-class/upper middle-class element today in the West among those who identify as socialist? Yes.

[Deleted User]

realitykeeper wrote: »

Children who grow up thinking the world owes them a living tend to be spoit.

Socialists also tend to think this way, hence the question, were socialists spoilt as children? I am not saying they were necessarily because I think an adult who displays behaviour similar to a spoilt brat were I suspect raised by permissive parents. This is a particular parenting style were kids basically do what they want without boundaries and often they get what they want if the parent is also over indulgent.

I see this spoilt type of adult everyday in my line of work. Sometimes they drink alcohol when they really shouldn`t and they fail to take instruction even when they are sober (which they are most of the time).

What should we as a nation do to stamp out spoilt behaviour? Do all new parents need to be thought the authoritative parenting method? Do we need bigger prisons and forced labor camps for those who are already grown up but are spoilt and in need of reforming? Spoilt people gravitate to a life of crime so discipline must be rigorous and immediate in my opinion.

This system of waiting until they have a lot of offenses committed before they are incarcerated, simply won`t do.

Yes. Spoilt children to be put into forced labour camps.

the beer revolu

realitykeeper wrote: »

I made a similar point some time back about Communists tending to be atheist and the fact that Communism is a failed ideology.

Maybe I'm a bit slow here, but I fail to find any similarity in these two points.

padd b1975

Day Lewin wrote: »

Surrounded by mé-féiners and ex-rural gombeenmen, he was scrupulous about social justice and completely devoid of snobbery.

Looks like his lack of snobbery has skipped a generation.

Ipso

Probably not as spoiled as socialists in Cuba or Venezuela.

Edgware

realitykeeper wrote: »

No I do not think Christ could accurately be described socialist or capitalist.

Well he did run the moneylenders out of the temple in Jerusalem

Wanderer78

realitykeeper wrote:

Isn`t it obvious? I`m right, you disagree so by necessity, that makes you wrong.

narcissism is an interesting disorder

realitykeeper

Wanderer78 wrote: »

oh this should be interesting(or maybe not), please explain?

Isn`t it obvious? I`m right, you disagree so by necessity, that makes you wrong.

silverharp

realitykeeper wrote: »

To be fair, I am very sympathetic to the young people who have been dispossessed by the greedy older generations which hoard the wealth and pulled the ladder up after them. The young get necklaced with the 200 billion euro + debt we accumulated.

true but if ytheir college degree was along the lines of Himalayan studies with interpretative dance then i aint listening to their theories of why capitalism and the patriarchy must fall :pac:

Church on Tuesday

Viva Che!

Wanderer78

realitykeeper wrote: »

I think I have a better insight into the causes of criminality than most. That fact that you disagree is proof.

oh this should be interesting(or maybe not), please explain?

realitykeeper

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Was jesus a socialist?

No I do not think Christ could accurately be described socialist or capitalist.

Marhay70

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Catholicism is deeply socialist economically

Well, one of the tenets of Socialism is that everybody gets to share in the wealth, I don't see much evidence for that in the RCC.

If Socialists are spoilt then Boris Johnson must be a rabid Socialist, he's a rabid something anyway.

realitykeeper

Edgware wrote: »

"When I give food to the poor they call me a saint, when I ask why they are poor they call me a Communist"

When you suggest they get a job they call you a fascist.

realitykeeper

Edgware wrote: »

At least we have good educated socialists drawn from the better off classes like Murphy Barrett and Daly. They are well able to provide leadership to the great unwashed who cant think for themelves

Just like Robert Emmet. Am I wrong or are they all a bunch of spoilt rich kids?

Timberrrrrrrr

realitykeeper wrote: »

Lapsed Catholics are.

Was jesus a socialist?

Varik

Big difference between socialist worker movements of the previous century, and the middle class idiots today.

realitykeeper

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Catholicism is deeply socialist economically

Lapsed Catholics are.

realitykeeper

silverharp wrote: »

generational thing then? socialism would have seemed appealing when there was more of a class system in place and you were hemmed in at the bottom. today though at least going by internet and youtube socialists types , they tend to look middle class to me which means they have had a lot of resources and opportunities thrown at them over the years. To me they come across as failure to lift types and are trying to make their problems my problem.

To be fair, I am very sympathetic to the young people who have been dispossessed by the greedy older generations which hoard the wealth and pulled the ladder up after them. The young get necklaced with the 200 billion euro + debt we accumulated.

Timberrrrrrrr

realitykeeper wrote: »

Surely applied humility can only be a good thing.

Forced labour = applied humility?

Re-education = applied humility?

What about a little thing called human rights? Should we be able to put christians in said camps and give them a bit of "applied humility" for believing in a "god"?

Drug addicts? Alcoholics? Where do you draw your line? Next you will want to send "naughty children" to kiddie camp and unwed mothers to workhouses :rolleyes:

realitykeeper

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

You want to put people into forced labour camps for their beliefs? Not very christian of you! Your ideals come straight out of the North Korean regimes way of thinking.

Surely applied humility can only be a good thing.

realitykeeper

Wanderer78 wrote: »

is the failure to take instructions due to your failures in communication, failures to respect work colleagues etc?

you also clearly have little or no knowledge in the root causes of criminality, so hopefully your line of work isnt in that sector.

Actually I was talking about other people failing to take instruction.

I think I have a better insight into the causes of criminality than most. That fact that you disagree is proof.

realitykeeper

the beer revolu wrote: »

How come most Christians have right wing, conservative tendencies, while jesus, as he is portrayed, was very much anti establishment and, arguably, socialist?

I made a similar point some time back about Communists tending to be atheist and the fact that Communism is a failed ideology.

Edgware

"When I give food to the poor they call me a saint, when I ask why they are poor they call me a Communist"

[Deleted User]

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Catholicism is deeply socialist economically

Catholicism is more communist than socialist. That degree of corruption and absolutism is required.

Socialism in it's purest form isn't a terrible idea. It's just that it, as with all political or social ideologies implemented by people, fails badly in the real world.

Edgware

At least we have good educated socialists drawn from the better off classes like Murphy Barrett and Daly. They are well able to provide leadership to the great unwashed who cant think for themelves

BDI

A socialist wants everything you have except your job.

Mad_maxx

the beer revolu wrote: »

How come most Christians have right wing, conservative tendencies, while jesus, as he is portrayed, was very much anti establishment and, arguably, socialist?

Catholicism is deeply socialist economically

Mad_maxx

Socialists are children