England vs NZ RWC Semi Final, 26th October 2019 match thread.

Beechwoodspark

A lot depends on the first 10 or so of the second half. It’ll tell a lot about if England can live with nz for rest of match

y0ssar1an22

is anything more annoying than rte player during ads?

shootermacg

A betting man would at this point put the house on New Zealand.

turnikett1

Deleted User wrote: »

England in the final as favourites and this world cup would officially be a complete disaster

Why? Because England have gotten further than Ireland? This World Cup has been an unmitigated disaster for Ireland regardless of who plays in the final.

seligehgit

Super first half from England. 10 points return isn't a true reflection of their dominance.

Suffocating the life out of the All Blacks.

The big questions are can they sustain it and will Farrell reappear for the second half?

A real hammer blow if he doesn't,pun intended.:D

Gidea

Deleted User wrote: »

England in the final as favourites and this world cup would officially be a complete disaster

How so? England have been great in 2019 in fairness, probably the form team. If you look at all their games this year they've been piling on 30+ points in the majority of their games.

They need to score early next half tho

bilston

NZ have no answers to England's defensive structure.

England have been really impressive on both sides of the ball, although their attacking game has dropped a level in the last 10 minutes.

As things stand England will win this game and probably with a bit to spare.

y0ssar1an22

hopefully ferris will have an original thought now

FixdePitchmark

shootermacg wrote: »

So flogging a dead horse is adult behavior? Ireland's head coach is gone. Maybe the bloody moaners should follow another team, just like in the soccer.
The tripe on here is exactly childish, adults put the past (and it is the past) behind them and move on with their lives.

Looking for every opportunity to bad mouth your own team, well you know what, I don't actually have a word for that.

What are you on about.

This is the semi ireland where supposed to be in.
It is completely relevant to watch it in that context.

Otherwise we will be back to same mistakes and hype next time.

WoollyRedHat

Rey Mysterious Stock-still wrote: »

It's an issue because NZ can score from anywhere at any time, they've shown that against everyone.

England will increase the score tally in 2nd,NZ have got stuck in a cul de sac, this is Englands game.

WoollyRedHat

is_that_so wrote: »

Hard to do for a full match and NZ will have chances. A second try would be more challenge for them to get back into it.

England much more adept at controlling NZ attack than we were.

MadYaker

Ten points isn’t enough I feel. NZ could still turn it on after a severe bollocking a few personnel changes.

Letwin_Larry

"only" 10 points in it.
Eddie Jones would have bitten your arm off for that score at HT.

thing is that scoreline doesn't flatter them 1 bit.

is_that_so

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

England much more adept at controlling NZ attack than we were.

Well, we could barely control our own ball so not a fair comparison!

turnikett1

turnikett1 wrote: »

Why? Because England have gotten further than Ireland? This World Cup has been an unmitigated disaster for Ireland regardless of who plays in the final.

Because I'm Irish and I don't like seeing the English win?

y0ssar1an22

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

England much more adept at controlling NZ attack than we were.

an objectively better team

Birdie Num Num

shootermacg wrote: »

A betting man would at this point put the house on New Zealand.

That’s probably why most betting men generally lose more than they win.

is_that_so

Letwin_Larry wrote: »

"only" 10 points in it.
Eddie Jones would have bitten your arm off for that score at HT.

thing is that scoreline doesn't flatter them 1 bit.

No, but with that level of dominance they should be further ahead.

BarryD2

Great play from Eng, power and off loading game standing well to them. But 10 points? Next score will be telling.

If nothing else, nice to see the smiles wiped off the AB faces 😀

Newuseruntaken

Feel bad for NZ, being humiliated here, but at the same time Steve Hansen is such a bitter, whiney man, I can’t wait to see him being interviewed after. It’s going to be delicious.

NZ had it too easy last week, after a long lay off.
Assumed they would have it the same way again.

Need to be better in 2nd half or Eng will batter them

Gamb!t

England will win this one,only a red will save NZ.

seligehgit

Have the All Blacks ever previously been held scoreless in a first half??

Two words that keep running around my head watching this:

Eddie Jones

The guy is a canny little genius

lawred2

[Deleted User] wrote: »

England in the final as favourites and this world cup would officially be a complete disaster

What?

Is this because you don't like England?

y0ssar1an22

Newuseruntaken wrote: »

Feel bad for NZ, being humiliated here, but at the same time Steve Hansen is such a bitter, whiney man, I can’t wait to see him being interviewed after. It’s going to be delicious.

eddie jones just as bad

his lack of humility really galls me

WoollyRedHat

Look, if England replicate the first half performance, the low point tally lead is moot. No BPs to be had here. Plus England will get a try, once they have flexed their defensive might and sucked all hope out of Hansens men.

seligehgit

seligehgit wrote: »

Have the All Blacks ever previously been held scoreless in a first half??

2012 and England thumped them

is_that_so

Newuseruntaken wrote: »

Feel bad for NZ, being humiliated here, but at the same time Steve Hansen is such a bitter, whiney man, I can’t wait to see him being interviewed after. It’s going to be delicious.

None of the coaches in the SF are terribly nice! Jones, Hansen, Gatland, Rassi!:P

Clegg

Tana Umaga looks sick.

shootermacg

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

What are you on about.

This is the semi ireland where supposed to be in.
It is completely relevant to watch it in that context.

Otherwise we will be back to same mistakes and hype next time.

Who is it relevant to? There's a new coaching team, a new attack coach, how is relevant? It's been a week already of a spam-fest of Ireland bashing. I've seen guys with 100 posts reach 500 posts doing nothing but Ireland bashing.
Joe's gone, it's that simple, there's no one left to bash.

seligehgit

seligehgit wrote: »

Have the All Blacks ever previously been held scoreless in a first half??

In a world cup? Once.

I don't think they've ever come back from more than 7 points behind at halftime in a world cup match.

WoollyRedHat

is_that_so wrote: »

Well, we could barely control our own ball so not a fair comparison!

Who else should I compare 👀

gmisk

[Deleted User] wrote: »

2012 and England thumped them

RTE said 1992 in world semi final against australia

lawred2

lawred2 wrote: »

What?

Is this because you don't like England?

Yes! Didn't think it would be that outreagous on an Irish forum!

BarryD2

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Because I'm Irish and I don't like seeing the English win?

Ah, you’d allow them to take NZ to the cleaners. The ABs deserve a beating now & then.

Letwin_Larry

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

an objectively better team

these 2 teams are so much superior than ireland, i dont think it's even fair to compare them.

Clegg

Sam Cane on at half time.

Admission from Hansen that he got his selection dead wrong.

gmisk

gmisk wrote: »

RTE said 1992 in world semi final against australia

https://www.autumn-internationals.co.uk/2012/england-v-new-zealand.html

12-0 at half time

WoollyRedHat

Letwin_Larry wrote: »

these 2 teams are so much superior than ireland, i dont think it's even fair to compare them.

Nonsense, we could perform at this level with right setup and more clinical execution.

penybont exile

For me ....England haven't converted the backlog into revenue. Gonna cost them ....

lawred2

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Yes! Didn't think it would be that outreagous on an Irish forum!

How does your dislike of England mean that them winning would be a disaster for the world cup?

eagle eye

I can see this one going to extra time.

is_that_so

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

Who else should I compare ��

Well a quality Tier 1 side vs one who currently cannot function says nothing about either.

MadYaker

Wow

y0ssar1an22

shoulder charge from farrell?

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

Yes! Didn't think it would be that outreagous on an Irish forum!

So the English rugby who insisted on playing here in the 1970s, height of troubles, when others would not?
The same England who promised backing for 2023 and actually followed through?

That England?
This is a rugby forum and not a political or republican one

ionadnapokot

Everything going England’s way
I feel they are going to win this now

Clegg

Whatever about England as the seat of parliament, England as the Rugby nation has always treated Ireland ok

Letwin_Larry

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

Nonsense, we could perform at this level with right setup and more clinical execution.

i hear what you are saying, but my granny could be an Olympic gold medal winning weightlifter .......