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Renting a room to someone but not at weekends. Advice sought.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    Hal3000 wrote: »
    Yes sir, your Majesty. I don’t want to live in a hotel ? With the towel pillows and mini cereal boxes at breakfast ? Yer all mad.

    What hotel could he live in on Saturday and Sunday that wouldn’t eat into all his profits?

    As for having to allow people to stay Sunday to Thursday I’d first advertise it as Monday to Thursday. Plenty of workers can work from home one to two days a week.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 818 ✭✭✭Hal3000


    Lesalare wrote: »
    I don't think it would be reasonable to expect said tenant to look after my 2 small animals whilst I am in said hotel eating said coco pops every Sat morning. Even if they do come in a small boxes.

    I got ya bro, I hear ya sista... best of luck with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    doc22 wrote: »
    Staying with relatives is different dynamic to paying someone 700 quid a month for a room monday evening to friday morning

    That’s right. And the other guy wasn’t staying with relatives.

    Why is this forum so weirdly aggressive?


  • Registered Users Posts: 342 ✭✭Lesalare


    What hotel could he live in on Saturday and Sunday that wouldn’t eat into all his profits?

    As for having to allow people to stay Sunday to Thursday I’d first advertise it as Monday to Thursday. Plenty of workers can work from home one to two days a week.

    'She' actually. ;)

    I agree. Why shoot myself in the foot. At the end of the day I am offering a situ for someone who might be looking for the exactly what I am looking for? If I find someone I like and they want the Sun eve too, it can be discussed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    i know country people who live in dublin, work in dublin,
    they go home every week on friday,
    they usually go back on sunday night .
    Make it clear in the ad, room for rent , monday to friday .
    Make sure and ask for 2 i,ds, photo id, and a payslip from prospective tenants .
    You need to make sure the tenant is working full time .
    When i was renting the deposit was 600 euro, but thats a long time ago.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,019 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    If 700 includes all bills and they have access to everything eg TV service then I actually think it's fair enough.

    My housemate's shift has changed so he's currently in Dublin only 4 nights a week. At times it has been up to 6 and he's paid the same rent for 4 years, a bargain for the area but fair's fair. I also don't charge him an equal share of the bills. If he went 7 nights I'd have to reexamine that.

    I initially advertised as a normal let but him going home most weekends meant he got the room over the 99 others who replied within an hour of my ad going live on daft.

    Daft is fine but go email only and create a throwaway account just for this purpose. You can tell an awful lot by what people write in response to an ad. You can also do some research on potential housemates on social media. For example I found that two of the people I planned to shortlist had shared custody of children, 1 had one but the other had two. I only wanted one housemate so was able to rule them out. I also removed the ad after an hour as 100 responses was more than enough to wade through.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,937 ✭✭✭SmartinMartin


    I'LL TAKE IT!


    (is there a garden where I can stick a tent the "odd" weekend?)


  • Registered Users Posts: 342 ✭✭Lesalare


    I'LL TAKE IT!


    (is there a garden where I can stick a tent the "odd" weekend?)

    LOL yeah actually there is. Walled deck 18' x 4' super private. You can sit in your tent starkers if you want.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,937 ✭✭✭SmartinMartin


    Ah here, I was all for renting midweek and living in the garden at the weekend but now you want me starkers too? Is there a basement?


  • Registered Users Posts: 342 ✭✭Lesalare


    Ah here, I was all for renting midweek and living in the garden at the weekend but now you want me starkers too? Is there a basement?

    LOL, no sadly not. You'll have to put up with the tent in your nip.
    I'll throw the cats out to keep you warm.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,536 ✭✭✭worded


    I’ve done this in the past several times

    This m-f arrangement won’t suit everyone but your not trying to suit everyone so to hell with the agressive smart asses on this thread

    Create a gmail address just for this purpose
    Don’t put your phone number on the ad

    On your first reply ask if it is for you solo or for coupe and/or kids? No phone number yet.
    Vet and short list by email

    Best of luck and hopefully you and your new sharer will be happy.

    Think positive


  • Registered Users Posts: 492 ✭✭CosmicFool


    I'd say it could work. A lot of people out there that just work in Dublin weekdays and head home at weekends. I think €150-170 weekly is fair. I would recommend setting up an email account just for this though and if you want get a cheap €20 prepay phone from Tesco or if you have an old one lying around.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,019 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    CosmicFool wrote: »
    I'd say it could work. A lot of people out there that just work in Dublin weekdays and head home at weekends. I think €150-170 weekly is fair. I would recommend setting up an email account just for this though and if you want get a cheap €20 prepay phone from Tesco or if you have an old one lying around.

    That rent is so 90s! You wouldn't even get a hostel for that and the lodger would have a double room, WiFi, parking etc and the op is including bills. And gets to leave their stuff over the weekend. €500 minimum


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,796 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Caranica wrote: »
    That rent is so 90s! You wouldn't even get a hostel for that and the lodger would have a double room, WiFi, parking etc and the op is including bills. And gets to leave their stuff over the weekend. €500 minimum

    In the 90s a studio flat (bedsit made meet minimum standards) was as little £45 a week in relatively central parts of Dublin.

    500/week for a part time room is both insanity and would put the OP over the rent a room tax limit


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,003 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    I think op is talking about 500 per month not week surely?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,741 ✭✭✭C3PO


    I work in a financial services company in Dublin and I know of at least 3 people here who do exactly what the OP is proposing i.e. live outside of Dublin but stay in town during the week. As somebody else suggested, he may have to include Sunday night but otherwise I don’t think he’ll have any issue letting the space.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,827 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    OP, all you need is one person to want what you're offering!


    Rent a room allows you to earn €7,500 tax free, which is €625 per calendar month, way above what you're thinking about.


    It sounds to me like the conditions of rental are more important to you than the money (otherwise you'd have done this ages ago), so start there and if you get someone interested you can negotiate the rent (know what your bottom line is though).


    I'd agree with a throwaway email and phone number - I was shocked at the speed and number of replies I got to a recent ad for a very average 1-bed apartment, had to take the ad down after only an hour.


  • Registered Users Posts: 342 ✭✭Lesalare


    L1011 wrote: »
    In the 90s a studio flat (bedsit made meet minimum standards) was as little £45 a week in relatively central parts of Dublin.

    500/week for a part time room is both insanity and would put the OP over the rent a room tax limit

    It’s per month.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,019 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    Rent a room allows you to earn €7,500 tax free, which is €625 per calendar month, way above what you're thinking about.

    Rent a room limit is €14,000 - no idea where you got your figure from!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    A friend of mine is doing this with her own house and she says she is getting 900 a month. The person leaves for their hometown on a Friday night. The house is in Kilbarrack, so its not even in a salubrious location.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 28,827 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Caranica wrote: »
    Rent a room limit is €14,000 - no idea where you got your figure from!!
    That's what I thought!



    Then I googled it and took the first result I saw - my bad. :o

    ETA - OMG, it's a UK website I was looking at, and that figure is for £..... facepalm! More coffee brewing.

    Apologies, OP - but most of my point still stands!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭Woshy


    I have a friend that does this, she was left a house by her parents that is quite big. More space than her and her family need. She lets two bedrooms and her lodgers are there Sunday evening to Friday morning basically. It's not that rare. It's worth trying anyway OP!


  • Registered Users Posts: 443 ✭✭ifeelstupid


    I think there is a demand for Mon-Fri, a relative of mine does this. Leaves home at stupid o'clock on a Monday morning,works a little longer during the week and finishes early on Friday. He is back west by about 2pm. His accommodation is covered by his job and he could stay 7 days if he chooses.


  • Registered Users Posts: 375 ✭✭RubyGlee


    I know people who rent in Dublin during the week and then back to there own house for the weekends. One works 12hr shifts so not even there the full week. There is demand. If you set the right price I’m sure it work out nicely


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,796 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Lesalare wrote: »
    It’s per month.

    The post I quoted was referencing weekly figures. They were criticising 170/week (which is far more than 500/month) as being too low!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭jr86


    Haven't lived in Dublin for a few years but when I did I went home most weekends anyway - if I stayed up I more or less got no sleep at weekends as there'd generally always be at least one housemate on the town and potentially a crowd brought back with them for good measure. I only stayed in Dublin if I was going out myself or had something on. Was able to leave work early and would be back at my home in the West at 7.30pm on a friday. Ideal

    I had to come back sunday nights though - mainly due to strict enough start time at work on Mondays. If there was more flexibility I would have waited till Monday morning to drive up in a heartbeat

    Plenty in my boat OP. Look at the trains and buses leaving Dublin on a friday - absolutely choccers with people heading home.

    My ideal housemate would be someone who goes home every weekend. I can just about abide an active house on a week night as I'm home late anyway and often straight to bed, but when I have a free weekend I'd much rather spend it to myself or with actual friends and family.

    To be honest I don't think its at all unreasonable to go with Monday - Friday, as opposed to sunday nights. You'll get plenty who will commute up on Monday morning and be gone on friday morning for the weekend.

    Be careful though when choosing - you may find a housemate might substitute their lack of weekend socialising in Dublin, with a week night instead. Also, what might start off as a few loose weekends here and there where they "have something on and need to stay up this once" might become more regular as time goes on, to take advantage of the lesser rent.

    But all the best with it and I'm sure there'll be lots of interest. If it was 5 years earlier I'd go for it myself :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 288 ✭✭DSN


    I think there is demand for this. Am living west & there are quite a few people (married with kids dads or mums) who have jobs in Dublin. Leave at dawn Monday morn & back Friday or Thurs & work from home Fridays. Probably would not charge more than €500 though as it sounds like you still want it to be very much 'your' place & make the T&Cs very clear. What would you say if they decide the odd w/e they want to stay or they announce they want their family up to stay for the odd night? Be prepared for this & tension & awkwardness if you say no!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭jr86


    DSN wrote: »
    What would you say if they decide the odd w/e they want to stay or they announce they want their family up to stay for the odd night? Be prepared for this & tension & awkwardness if you say no!

    Yeah I'd lay this out very clearly from the start

    Dublin is a city with lots going on. An odd reasonable request like staying up on the weekend of an All Ireland final involving their county for example, or if they're heading somewhere close to Dublin for the weekend on the saturday or are heading abroad and are flying from Dublin airport, would be fine with myself in the OP's circumstances.

    But this could very easily and quickly extend into going to concerts once a month " can the girls stay up for the night?", or going for work drinks on the friday and "I planned to get the bus home but ended up in Coppers" and so on.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,359 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    There are lots of professionals that only want a place during the week. They tend to be quite and not going out and partying. Men working in Dublin and their family living back home is the most common. Some will even only want a few days a week.
    Worked in one startup and 5 of the 10 staff were only in Dublin during the week.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    Are there any clauses in your rental contract about sub-letting?

    Edit: sorry just realised you spoke to her. I'd still cover myself by checking contract/ getting permission in writing. If LL decides to end your tenancy, you could be giving her a handy reason i.e. you broke the terms of your contract. Not saying it would happen but no harm in CYA. Also, what would happen if your tenant caused damage etc. Are you assuming liability for that?


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