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Renting a room to someone but not at weekends. Advice sought.

  • 15-10-2019 8:08pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭


    Evening.

    I rent a lovely 2 bed house in a very desirable part of south Dublin city. (D6).
    I have a decent size double spare room I never use and thinking to rent it out.
    I live on my own and work from home.

    I am pondering the idea of renting it out however not for the full week rather Monday eve to Fri morning (Aka I want the place to myself Fri eve to Mon eve). I don't have to rent the room out and in no major rush to do so, but it's never used and could be a good source of extra income as my rent is very high. Just something I am thinking to get more info on.

    Ideally I'd like to rent a professional who is a bit older or a mature student etc. Basically I don't want some 19 year old college kid living with me.

    I am full aware of the rental crisis but is there a really a big demand for rooms let on a non-weekend basis? I have a car park space too which I don't use.

    Any advice on this and what amount I would expect to charge etc..
    Also how would you go about finding said 'applicant' as described above?

    In addition, has anyone on here had similar situ?

    Thanks in advance.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,726 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    It'll be hard to get a professional in with this criteria. These set ups are usually for a student who goes home at the weekend.
    I realise this isn't really helpful


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,501 ✭✭✭BrokenArrows


    Lesalare wrote: »
    Evening.

    I rent a lovely 2 bed house in a very desirable part of south Dublin city. (D6).
    I have a decent size double spare room I never use and thinking to rent it out.
    I live on my own and work from home.

    I am pondering the idea of renting it out however not for the full week rather Monday eve to Fri morning (Aka I want the place to myself Fri eve to Mon eve). I don't have to rent the room out but it's never used and could be a good source of extra income as my rent is very high.

    Ideally I'd like to rent a professional who is a bit older or a mature student etc. Basically I don't want some 19 year old college kid living with me.

    I am full aware of the rental crisis but is there a really a big demand for rooms let on a non-weekend basis. I have a car park space too which I don't use.

    Any advice on this and what amount I would expect to charge etc..
    Also how would you go about finding said 'applicant' as described above?

    Thanks in advance.

    Probably 30% of whatever your current rent is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,632 ✭✭✭Aint Eazy Being Cheezy


    Whack it up on daft. Plenty of similar ads. Naturally you’ll need to discount from a room that’s to let 24/7 but you’ll probably get some interest. The only thing is that people will probably want to come back Sunday evening ahead of work next morning, so you’d only really have Friday and Saturday night to yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,294 ✭✭✭limnam


    You don't sound very suitable for sharing anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Lesalare


    Whack it up on daft. Plenty of similar ads. Naturally you’ll need to discount from a room that’s to let 24/7 but you’ll probably get some interest. The only thing is that people will probably want to come back Sunday evening ahead of work next morning, so you’d only really have Friday and Saturday night to yourself.

    Thanks for that. Yes I fully understand I would have to price it fairly due to circumstances. Just a few mates were telling me there would be people who work in the city during the week and head back down the country at the weekends. But as y0ssar1an22 stated, that's probably students.

    I did take into account alright re. the Sun night. I would be cool with that as I know I am probably pushing it to include that night as part of the weekend.

    Cheers again


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    This would be fairly easy I would think. Plenty of people work in Dublin but can’t commute everyday. I’ve worked with people from Cork and the north in Dublin. They all worked 3-4 days in Dublin but lived at home, and went he at weekends.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Lesalare


    Probably 30% of whatever your current rent is.

    Thank you.

    My current rent is 2400 per month.

    Which equate to 732.00 per month to them. This would include parking included and bills etc. Would this be a fair amount or too high? I see a lot of places for a full week at 200 per week etc...

    I'd probably knock it down to 700 PM obvs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Lesalare


    This would be fairly easy I would think. Plenty of people work in Dublin but can’t commute everyday. I’ve worked with people from Cork and the north in Dublin. They all worked 3-4 days in Dublin but lived at home, and went he at weekends.

    Franz, perchance do you know how they found the accomodation they lived in here? Cheers.
    I am loath to put it up on Daft if honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,378 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    Lesalare wrote: »
    If you're not going to add anything constructive please don't bother posting. Ta.

    Then I'll be constructive and suggest that you word your advertisement better than your op.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Lesalare


    Then I'll be constructive and suggest that you word your advertisement better than your op.

    What exactly is wrong with my original post? It's a question not an advert.
    I'm not trying to compete with people who rent out rooms for the entire week. It's a different situ and only available Mon - Fri.

    Don't know why you need to get all stupid and smart arse about it just for the sake of trying to get your tuppence worth into a post which you clearly have nothing decent to contribute to either.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 MondayBlues


    Lesalare wrote: »
    Thank you.

    My current rent is 2400 per month.

    Which equate to 732.00 per month to them. This would include parking included and bills etc. Would this be a fair amount or too high? I see a lot of places for a full week at 200 per week etc...

    I'd probably knock it down to 700 PM obvs.

    You won’t get 700 a week for someone To be out on weekends, there’s a load of rooms available on daft. I’d say 500 at the most unless it’s a spectacular house.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Lesalare


    You won’t get 700 a week for someone To be out on weekends, there’s a load of rooms available on daft. I’d say 500 at the most unless it’s a spectacular house.

    Yeah I agree. I have to weigh up if I want to lose my weekly private space for 500 quid per month. Thanks for your feedback.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭AulWan


    If you are renting the property, I would assume you'd need to get the permission of your landlord, first and foremost, before letting someone else live in the property, even Monday to Friday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Lesalare


    AulWan wrote: »
    If you are renting the property, I would assume you'd need to get the permission of your landlord, first and foremost, before letting someone else live in the property, even Monday to Friday.

    Yes I am aware of that. I have spoken to her. Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭PhoenixParker


    I’d suggest putting it on Airbnb and seeing can you get yourself a few regulars - professionals who work in Dublin regularly and need a bed for a night or two a few times a month.

    There’s a bit more work to it in terms of prep but you’d retain more control and privacy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,621 ✭✭✭Nidgeweasel


    Lesalare wrote: »
    Evening.

    I rent a lovely 2 bed house in a very desirable part of south Dublin city. (D6).
    I have a decent size double spare room I never use and thinking to rent it out.
    I live on my own and work from home.

    I am pondering the idea of renting it out however not for the full week rather Monday eve to Fri morning (Aka I want the place to myself Fri eve to Mon eve). I don't have to rent the room out and in no major rush to do so, but it's never used and could be a good source of extra income as my rent is very high. Just something I am thinking to get more info on.

    Ideally I'd like to rent a professional who is a bit older or a mature student etc. Basically I don't want some 19 year old college kid living with me.

    I am full aware of the rental crisis but is there a really a big demand for rooms let on a non-weekend basis? I have a car park space too which I don't use.

    Any advice on this and what amount I would expect to charge etc..
    Also how would you go about finding said 'applicant' as described above?

    In addition, has anyone on here had similar situ?

    Thanks in advance.
    Don’t bother your arse. Enough have a go landlords with mon - fri lets for stupid prices flooding the market as it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 973 ✭✭✭eurokev


    Ive rented a room in Dublin on a Sunday evening to Friday morning/afternoon basis for differing periods in Dublin a few times over the last few years.
    €120 a week is the max max I think you could charge.
    There is a decent market out there of people looking for such arrangements.
    Does your lease allow you to sublet the room?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Lesalare


    eurokev wrote: »
    Ive rented a room in Dublin on a Sunday evening to Friday morning/afternoon basis for differing periods in Dublin a few times over the last few years.
    €120 a week is the max max I think you could charge.
    There is a decent market out there of people looking for such arrangements.
    Does your lease allow you to sublet the room?

    Thanks for that. Yes I have spoken with my landlady. She's fine with it. I look after the place very well and have been here a fair time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,507 ✭✭✭KevRossi


    If its a good sized room, in a very nice house, free parking with the person having the house bathroom to themselves then €500 is OK, drop accordingly.

    Plenty of people want a room like that, going home at the weekends to farms, play GAA, partners etc. or just general homebirds. Expect them to stay the odd weekend for nigthsout etc, maybe once every 8 weeks or so, especially around Christmas.

    Have shared with people like that in the past, tend to be low maintenance, rarely cook, tend to bring up a couple of dinners with them from home etc etc.

    But also expect them to want to stay most Sunday nights as some of them will be on public transport and will be coming up Sunday or some just don't want to face to a 3 hour drive on a Monday morning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    Mon-fri lets are not uncommon and I was getting €400+ in Kilbarrack so €700 in D6 is not beyond the pale. Plenty of professionals around too. The issue is policing it, the odd issue weekend can turn into them staying frequently. If you don't mind paying tax on it Airbnb is another option. Also be as picky as you like, it's your home and if people don't like how you come across then they don't have to rent from you.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Lesalare


    KevRossi wrote: »
    If its a good sized room, in a very nice house, free parking with the person having the house bathroom to themselves then €500 is OK, drop accordingly.

    Plenty of people want a room like that, going home at the weekends to farms, play GAA, partners etc. or just general homebirds. Expect them to stay the odd weekend for nigthsout etc, maybe once every 8 weeks or so, especially around Christmas.

    Have shared with people like that in the past, tend to be low maintenance, rarely cook, tend to bring up a couple of dinners with them from home etc etc.

    But also expect them to want to stay most Sunday nights as some of them will be on public transport and will be coming up Sunday or some just don't want to face to a 3 hour drive on a Monday morning.

    It's a decent sized room. bright etc. Good storage. The bathroom would be shared but as I work from home, they would have it to themselves in the mornings as I work from 10-7 or later. I would probably throw in a few meals each week if they wanted them. I cook a lot for my work so there is always dinner here. I'd go so far as putting a load of dinners in the freezer, if they wanted them: cool, if not: same. I would be happy to throw it in. The house is very private and secure. It would include all bills and wifi, cable TV etc... As I say too it includes a parking space and a 15 min walk to Ranelagh village/Donnybrook etc and on good bus routes.

    I'd just like to find a situ that's a win win for both parties.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 818 ✭✭✭Hal3000


    Rent out the room for the entire week. Book yourself into a hotel Friday to Sunday night then rent our your room out too covering the hotel costs. Advertise it as room available Friday night to Sunday. Perfect for quick city break etc etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,100 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    Lesalare wrote: »
    Yes I am aware of that. I have spoken to her. Thanks.

    After 6 months they can apply to become a tenant and there is little a landlord, or the main tenant, can do to refuse. Weigh up the risks of someone getting part 4 rights to your home also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,288 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Don’t bother your arse. Enough have a go landlords with mon - fri lets for stupid prices flooding the market as it is.

    Ignore nonsense like this.

    Plenty of professionals are forced to work in Dublin 3-4 days per week, but have their homes down the country. Many would kill for a Mon-Fri hjouse-share such as the OP describes, rather than taking their chances with AirBnB each week or paying for a full week's share.

    If they were staying 7 days /week, then paying 50% of the rent would be reasonable. If only staying 4 or 5 nights per week. then about 30% is reasonable. But maybe load it a little so that all bills are included - such people won't want to be quibbling about fractions of the ESB etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Lesalare


    Hal3000 wrote: »
    Rent out the room for the entire week. Book yourself into a hotel Friday to Sunday night then rent our your room out too covering the hotel costs. Advertise it as room available Friday night to Sunday. Perfect for quick city break etc etc.

    Thanks but I don't think I want to live in a hotel every weekend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,127 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Doing this is no problem but it would need to be from Sunday evening realistically.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    Lesalare wrote: »
    Franz, perchance do you know how they found the accomodation they lived in here? Cheers.
    I am loath to put it up on Daft if honest.

    One guy stayed with relatives. The other guy was staying with an older couple but that was advertised.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 818 ✭✭✭Hal3000


    Lesalare wrote: »
    Thanks but I don't think I want to live in a hotel every weekend.

    Yes sir, your Majesty. I don’t want to live in a hotel ? With the towel pillows and mini cereal boxes at breakfast ? Yer all mad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Lesalare


    Hal3000 wrote: »
    Yes sir, your Majesty. I don’t want to live in a hotel ? With the towel pillows and mini cereal boxes at breakfast ? Yer all mad.

    I don't think it would be reasonable to expect said tenant to look after my 2 small animals whilst I am in said hotel eating said coco pops every Sat morning. Even if they do come in a small boxes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 900 ✭✭✭doc22


    One guy stayed with relatives. The other guy was staying with an older couple but that was advertised.

    Staying with relatives is different dynamic to paying someone 700 quid a month for a room monday evening to friday morning


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    Hal3000 wrote: »
    Yes sir, your Majesty. I don’t want to live in a hotel ? With the towel pillows and mini cereal boxes at breakfast ? Yer all mad.

    What hotel could he live in on Saturday and Sunday that wouldn’t eat into all his profits?

    As for having to allow people to stay Sunday to Thursday I’d first advertise it as Monday to Thursday. Plenty of workers can work from home one to two days a week.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 818 ✭✭✭Hal3000


    Lesalare wrote: »
    I don't think it would be reasonable to expect said tenant to look after my 2 small animals whilst I am in said hotel eating said coco pops every Sat morning. Even if they do come in a small boxes.

    I got ya bro, I hear ya sista... best of luck with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    doc22 wrote: »
    Staying with relatives is different dynamic to paying someone 700 quid a month for a room monday evening to friday morning

    That’s right. And the other guy wasn’t staying with relatives.

    Why is this forum so weirdly aggressive?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Lesalare


    What hotel could he live in on Saturday and Sunday that wouldn’t eat into all his profits?

    As for having to allow people to stay Sunday to Thursday I’d first advertise it as Monday to Thursday. Plenty of workers can work from home one to two days a week.

    'She' actually. ;)

    I agree. Why shoot myself in the foot. At the end of the day I am offering a situ for someone who might be looking for the exactly what I am looking for? If I find someone I like and they want the Sun eve too, it can be discussed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    i know country people who live in dublin, work in dublin,
    they go home every week on friday,
    they usually go back on sunday night .
    Make it clear in the ad, room for rent , monday to friday .
    Make sure and ask for 2 i,ds, photo id, and a payslip from prospective tenants .
    You need to make sure the tenant is working full time .
    When i was renting the deposit was 600 euro, but thats a long time ago.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,177 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    If 700 includes all bills and they have access to everything eg TV service then I actually think it's fair enough.

    My housemate's shift has changed so he's currently in Dublin only 4 nights a week. At times it has been up to 6 and he's paid the same rent for 4 years, a bargain for the area but fair's fair. I also don't charge him an equal share of the bills. If he went 7 nights I'd have to reexamine that.

    I initially advertised as a normal let but him going home most weekends meant he got the room over the 99 others who replied within an hour of my ad going live on daft.

    Daft is fine but go email only and create a throwaway account just for this purpose. You can tell an awful lot by what people write in response to an ad. You can also do some research on potential housemates on social media. For example I found that two of the people I planned to shortlist had shared custody of children, 1 had one but the other had two. I only wanted one housemate so was able to rule them out. I also removed the ad after an hour as 100 responses was more than enough to wade through.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,937 ✭✭✭SmartinMartin


    I'LL TAKE IT!


    (is there a garden where I can stick a tent the "odd" weekend?)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Lesalare


    I'LL TAKE IT!


    (is there a garden where I can stick a tent the "odd" weekend?)

    LOL yeah actually there is. Walled deck 18' x 4' super private. You can sit in your tent starkers if you want.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,937 ✭✭✭SmartinMartin


    Ah here, I was all for renting midweek and living in the garden at the weekend but now you want me starkers too? Is there a basement?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Lesalare


    Ah here, I was all for renting midweek and living in the garden at the weekend but now you want me starkers too? Is there a basement?

    LOL, no sadly not. You'll have to put up with the tent in your nip.
    I'll throw the cats out to keep you warm.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭worded


    I’ve done this in the past several times

    This m-f arrangement won’t suit everyone but your not trying to suit everyone so to hell with the agressive smart asses on this thread

    Create a gmail address just for this purpose
    Don’t put your phone number on the ad

    On your first reply ask if it is for you solo or for coupe and/or kids? No phone number yet.
    Vet and short list by email

    Best of luck and hopefully you and your new sharer will be happy.

    Think positive


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 492 ✭✭CosmicFool


    I'd say it could work. A lot of people out there that just work in Dublin weekdays and head home at weekends. I think €150-170 weekly is fair. I would recommend setting up an email account just for this though and if you want get a cheap €20 prepay phone from Tesco or if you have an old one lying around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,177 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    CosmicFool wrote: »
    I'd say it could work. A lot of people out there that just work in Dublin weekdays and head home at weekends. I think €150-170 weekly is fair. I would recommend setting up an email account just for this though and if you want get a cheap €20 prepay phone from Tesco or if you have an old one lying around.

    That rent is so 90s! You wouldn't even get a hostel for that and the lodger would have a double room, WiFi, parking etc and the op is including bills. And gets to leave their stuff over the weekend. €500 minimum


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,113 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Caranica wrote: »
    That rent is so 90s! You wouldn't even get a hostel for that and the lodger would have a double room, WiFi, parking etc and the op is including bills. And gets to leave their stuff over the weekend. €500 minimum

    In the 90s a studio flat (bedsit made meet minimum standards) was as little £45 a week in relatively central parts of Dublin.

    500/week for a part time room is both insanity and would put the OP over the rent a room tax limit


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,233 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    I think op is talking about 500 per month not week surely?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,794 ✭✭✭C3PO


    I work in a financial services company in Dublin and I know of at least 3 people here who do exactly what the OP is proposing i.e. live outside of Dublin but stay in town during the week. As somebody else suggested, he may have to include Sunday night but otherwise I don’t think he’ll have any issue letting the space.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,029 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    OP, all you need is one person to want what you're offering!


    Rent a room allows you to earn €7,500 tax free, which is €625 per calendar month, way above what you're thinking about.


    It sounds to me like the conditions of rental are more important to you than the money (otherwise you'd have done this ages ago), so start there and if you get someone interested you can negotiate the rent (know what your bottom line is though).


    I'd agree with a throwaway email and phone number - I was shocked at the speed and number of replies I got to a recent ad for a very average 1-bed apartment, had to take the ad down after only an hour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Lesalare


    L1011 wrote: »
    In the 90s a studio flat (bedsit made meet minimum standards) was as little £45 a week in relatively central parts of Dublin.

    500/week for a part time room is both insanity and would put the OP over the rent a room tax limit

    It’s per month.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,177 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    Rent a room allows you to earn €7,500 tax free, which is €625 per calendar month, way above what you're thinking about.

    Rent a room limit is €14,000 - no idea where you got your figure from!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    A friend of mine is doing this with her own house and she says she is getting 900 a month. The person leaves for their hometown on a Friday night. The house is in Kilbarrack, so its not even in a salubrious location.


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