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Turkish forces have started bombing and attacking Kurdish people in Syria

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  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 75,727 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


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  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭Limpy


    riclad wrote: »
    The kurds are under attack by turkey,
    100,s of isis prisoners have ,
    escaped , this leaves a space where isis can regroup and grow stronger .
    It seems american troops are going to iraq and other countrys rather than going back to america .
    A few weeks ago drones attacked saudia arabia refinerys,
    drones are cheap to make and can be used by any rebel group.
    Saudia arabia spends billions on weapons and missile defense ,
    it seems no one has the tech at present to defend against
    a dozen drones flying at low levels maybe a 100 ft over ground level .It,s moore,s law tech gets cheaper and easier to use every year ,
    anyone can buy a drone with a camera on it on the internet.

    If the US are so worried about ISIS why don't They drone strike the prison. Why don't They hand them over to The Syrian government for trial. They are after all terrorists right?

    They Syrian/Russia army's would of handled ISIS long ago if they weren't protected by the west.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Limpy wrote: »

    They Syrian/Russia army's would of handled ISIS long ago if they weren't protected by the west.

    The assputin forces didn't fight Isis ,they fought groups that wanted Assad gone , russians bombed hospitals and schools and markets they struggled to find Isis odd


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    Trump wants turkey or the syrian government to take care of the prisoner,s ,and let the kurds go wherever ,
    America has no authority to bomb prisons ,
    trump wants to get out of syria, a few hundred soldiers army be left there
    to gaurd oil installations .
    read up on this, the american army teamed up with the kurd,s
    to defeat isis ,
    The only choice now is for the kurds to negotiate with the syrian government
    as to where they will go,
    or else wait to be killed by the turkish army.
    The turkish government regard the kurd,s as potential terrorist,s
    or enemys to be wiped out .
    Turkey is using the excuse of securing the border to go into syria,
    in Syria ,now ,might is right, theres no sense of morality,
    who ever has troops and guns wins .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,015 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Trump tells the Kurds to move to the areas with oil if they want protection. Probably the most honest statement by an American President in generations. The Kurds can be left to die because why should U.S. soldiers be involved...but the oil, that's more precious. Disgusting.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,855 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Overheal wrote: »
    Random account of alleged Person blowing smoke up Trumps butt. What’s the takeaway there?

    The leader is good etc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,350 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Gatling wrote: »
    The assputin forces didn't fight Isis ,they fought groups that wanted Assad gone , russians bombed hospitals and schools and markets they struggled to find Isis odd

    Even before the arrival of the Russian'a, the Regime forces fought and killed isis whenever and where ever they found them. There was no love lost between the Syrian Army and isis. In isis controlled areas, which were not being attacked by the SA, it was only because some one else was attacking them, and Assad was content to conserve his force's. In Damascus itself, isis in the surburbs were one of the biggest threat's to Assad.


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,995 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    The leader is good etc.

    It's like playing the video of all Trump's cabinet members showering false praise on him and harking it as exemplification of Trump's statecraft genius.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,047 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu has rejected a German plan for an internationally enforced security zone along Syria's border with Turkey as "unrealistic" and rebuffed German criticism of Ankara's recent military operation in Syria.
    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/10/turkey-rejects-german-security-zone-plan-unrealistic-191026141506342.html?fbclid=IwAR22A7NjuMw6BaCtu59CK2qdFpKhOv5vFAaHTdOePpD35LTcoMdn2TYkwbs

    "unrealistic" in expecting the Turks to stop their land grab.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,685 ✭✭✭Signore Fancy Pants


    Rumint of a US coalition/TUR operation to kill or capture a senior ISIS/AQ/HTS leader, potentially Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi occurred in Idlib last night.

    Last thought to be in the Deir ez-Zeir/Iraq border region. With ISIS shifting territory changes over the last 12 months, Idlib was the most likely location for his whereabouts.

    Could be a bingo.....timing is suspect though.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,350 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Rumint of a US coalition/TUR operation to kill or capture a senior ISIS/AQ/HTS leader, potentially Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi occurred in Idlib last night.

    Last thought to be in the Deir ez-Zeir/Iraq border region. With ISIS shifting territory changes over the last 12 months, Idlib was the most likely location for his whereabouts.

    Could be a bingo.....timing is suspect though.

    Since the fall of the Caliphate, the circle was getting smaller and smaller..running out of places to hide, so after many premature "RIP" notices, maybe this one is true. Won't be any harm either if he is gone.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,522 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Curious as to how they announce it. Can't be as blunt as "we got him".


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    The chicken **** blew himself up


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭Limpy


    Doubt he was in ildib, only free Syrian army and hospital's there from the information the media puts out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,522 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Gatling wrote: »
    The chicken **** blew himself up

    Saves them having to chuck the body somewhere over the Persian gulf.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Saves them having to chuck the body somewhere over the Persian gulf.

    They still might if there is anything left of him


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,685 ✭✭✭Signore Fancy Pants


    Gatling wrote: »
    The chicken **** blew himself up

    Thats standard for these *****.

    Although, if thats what actually happened.


  • Registered Users Posts: 258 ✭✭Liberta Per Gli Ultra


    Here's a link to a BBC article detailing war crimes committed by Turkish-backed forces in their efforts to displace Kurds from parts of Rojava:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-50250330
    Turkish-backed forces fighting Kurdish militias in north-east Syria have been accused of committing war crimes, with acts of brutality surfacing on mobile phone footage.

    The UN has warned that Turkey could be held responsible for the actions of its allies, while Turkey has promised to investigate.

    Bearded men shout "Allahu Akbar [God is the Greatest]". One captures the scene on his smartphone and says: "We are mujahedeen [holy warriors] from Faylaq Al-Majd [Glory Corps] battalion." In the background are the corpses of Kurdish fighters.

    Further away, a group of men plant their feet on a woman's bloodied body. One says she is a "whore".


  • Registered Users Posts: 258 ✭✭Liberta Per Gli Ultra


    _Farah_ wrote: »
    PYD/PKK terror organization forces women to fight

    A couple of gals obviously putting on a brave face.

    320px-YPJ_fighters_%28Afrin_February_2018%29.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Some people will post any nonsense


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭1641


    _Farah_ wrote: »
    Your state controlled media is washing your brain to justify their criminal actions in ME and other countries.


    Yes, we should instead look to the "free" Turkish press forinformation:


    "The delegation said it welcomed the intention of the authorities to undertake reform. However, the delegation highlighted in meetings with officials how the press freedom environment in the country has not improved since the lifting of the State of Emergency in July 2018, how scores of journalists remain behind bars or under travel bans as a consequence of an extended, politically motivated crackdown against the media, and how a subsequent wide-ranging capture of the judiciary has progressively and severely damaged the rule of law and the public’s right to access information."

    https://ipi.media/press-freedom-in-turkey-remains-in-crisis-despite-some-room-for-very-cautious-optimism/#iLightbox%5Bgallery38140%5D/0


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    _Farah_ wrote: »
    Did your

    Mammy tell you never to embarrass yourself in public.


    You haven't a clue what your on about


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 373 ✭✭careless sherpa


    _Farah_ wrote: »
    Nah, this is just British propaganda and fabricated stories of them, look at your source, there is not even a single proof in the article. These kind of propaganda articles are one of the most effective weapons to effect public opinion. It reminds me "British sniper shot an ISIS terrorist from 10 km away" news prepared from time to time. There are US and NATO forces in the region, there are also independent observer organizations, so at least we expect them to be independent. They cant prove even a single attack that target civilians or even mistakenly hits civilians despite its pretty normal in a conflict environment.




    .

    No one is going to buy the rubbish that you are peddling. Wasting your time and energy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 258 ✭✭Liberta Per Gli Ultra


    _Farah_ wrote: »
    Your state controlled media is washing your brain to justify their criminal actions in ME and in other countries.

    I don't have or own any media and the Irish state is not my state, it belongs to two political parties and their wealthy business friends. It also belongs to Google and Apple.

    Ireland doesn't have state controlled media. It has a semi-state company called RTÉ and they can't afford to wash anything. The Irish state has never invaded a country in the Middle East and many people in Ireland have sympathy with the ordinary people of the Middle East who have suffered because of British and American imperialism.

    Your brain has been washed by somebody and you need to read about the dangers of sectarianism. The Kurds have the right to exist, and women have the right to decide how to live their lives.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    Ignore Turkish bots, paid liars peddling the agenda of an Islamist dictator.

    Bin.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,098 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    US Senate passes resolution condemning the Armenian genocide. Well done, pretty late though.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/474306-senate-passes-armenian-genocide-resolution


  • Registered Users Posts: 736 ✭✭✭Das Reich


    I really don't get the Armenians in all that situation. They have an IQ much more higher than their neighbors, and despite being so wealthy in the countries they emigrated, they do simply nothing in the region. They think their friendship with Russia will guarantee the existence of Armenia, which proved wrong even recently when Russia did nothing to protect Serbia from NATO agression. Russia is just a big dog that barks but not bite. Turkey is proving to be the real IS that is a threat to the existence of Armenia and Christians on the region.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    _Farah_ wrote: »
    Approving a fake genocide story will be a loss for the US. We will start to kick NATO forces out, they have two important military bases in Turkiye which they use to terrorize ME. We are already too late to close these bases.

    We? I thought you weren't a Turkish bot? Lol


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,098 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    _Farah_ wrote: »
    Approving a fake genocide story will be a loss for the US. We will start to kick NATO forces out, they have two important military bases in Turkiye which they use to terrorize ME. We are already too late to close these bases.

    Fake my hole, have been seeing denials of this FACT from Nazi and Turkish sympathizers for years, since yer man Hitler liked to reference it saying, 'see? You can get away with genocide.'

    I actually posted that to see if someone would deny it and wow, the resident Turkish government apologist jumps right in.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,098 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    _Farah_ wrote: »
    Lets start a topic for it and discuss. I will destroy your claims in max 1 minute.

    Feel free to start one in the Conspiracy Theories forum where the other Holocaust deniers sometimes show up


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