Hollystown closing

Seve OB

blue note wrote: »

Now 15 and 16 aren't the strongest holes in the course, but they're fine. Certainly they don't deserve the criticism they get.

oh no they are not!...... well it is pants season.
but in all seriousness, they are probably about 2 of the worst holes in the country.

Skyfloater

Seve OB wrote: »

oh no they are not!...... well it is pants season.
but in all seriousness, they are probably about 2 of the worst holes in the country.

Wrong, wrong, wrong. You may have a point about 15, but the second shot into 16 requires a fair amount of skill.

mjsc1970

Seve OB wrote: »

oh no they are not!...... well it is pants season.
but in all seriousness, they are probably about 2 of the worst holes in the country.

That's a tiny bit harsh methinx. They are not fantastic, agreed, but they're grand. I'd take par on each every time if ye were to hand it to me.

RoadRunner

Seve OB wrote: »

they are probably about 2 of the worst holes in the country.

I don't mind them. Nice to be able to open the shoulders for a drive at Corballis. The 18fairway is more dangerous as it's unsighted from the 14tee box.

https://ibb.co/6J9czdc

willabur

Seve OB wrote: »

oh no they are not!...... well it is pants season.
but in all seriousness, they are probably about 2 of the worst holes in the country.

15 is a poor hole - it has a small tricked up green which gives it difficulty. 16 though is a tough hole, especially into the wind which requires a really good second shot.

The main criticism for both holes is the danger of them. Having the holes cross is asking for trouble. They would be better of swapping location of 15th Green and 16th Tee box. Or swap the 16th Green with the 15th Tee box and build up some kind of natural border between them. Doubt either is going to happen

IITYWYBMAD

willabur wrote: »

15 is a poor hole - it has a small tricked up green which gives it difficulty. 16 though is a tough hole, especially into the wind which requires a really good second shot.

The main criticism for both holes is the danger of them. Having the holes cross is asking for trouble. They would be better of swapping location of 15th Green and 16th Tee box. Or swap the 16th Green with the 15th Tee box and build up some kind of natural border between them. Doubt either is going to happen

Played Corballis in late December, and got lucky with the weather. Hadn't played it in years, and I thought the course was great to be honest. Actually forgot how good it is in parts. Hole 3 being the stand out for me.

With regards to 15/16, I agree with some that 15 is weak, but 16 is a smashing hole, the only issue being the criss-cross, but I certainly would not call it weak. They could solve this by moving the 16th green to where the 15th tee box is, and make it a very tough par 4.

RoadRunner

IITYWYBMAD wrote: »

With regards to 15/16, I agree with some that 15 is weak, but 16 is a smashing hole, the only issue being the criss-cross, but I certainly would not call it weak. They could solve this by moving the 16th green to where the 15th tee box is, and make it a very tough par 4.

We probably need a Corballis thread to be fair.

15 and 16 are fairly well sighted from both tee boxes, I don't feel in much danger when playing it. I'll watch who's about to tee and maybe give them a moment to hit. When it's me teeing off and if there's anyone coming up the other side, I'll give the universal heads-up golf signal (club in the air). It's the 18th fairway that's lethal as it's unsighted from the 14th tee and any pulled shot from the 14th tee usually is not accompanied by a "Fore". I've been on both ends of this.

blue note

RoadRunner wrote: »

We probably need a Corballis thread to be fair.

15 and 16 are fairly well sighted from both tee boxes, I don't feel in much danger when playing it. I'll watch who's about to tee and maybe give them a moment to hit. When it's me teeing off and if there's anyone coming up the other side, I'll give the universal heads-up golf signal (club in the air). It's the 18th fairway that's lethal as it's unsighted from the 14th tee and any pulled shot from the 14th tee usually is not accompanied by a "Fore". I've been on both ends of this.

There are a few dangerous parts on the course. Even the first hole, if someone knocks their tee shot people on 11 can't see them and are likely to hit. I've been around the corner waiting to hit my second on the 3rd hole and had a ball roll up to me. People on the tee can't see me so assume I've moved on. 7th hole you might not see the people on the fairway from the tee. 8th hole the 11th tee box is in my landing zone if I slice a drive. 11th hole I've had people land a ball on the green when I was putting. 14/18 fairways are dangerous. I'll shout, but the ball might still be heading for you. And 15/16 as mentioned above can be dangerous. Particularly my 16th tee shot - people tend to stand on the 15th fairway before the bunker and wait for me to hit. They're watching so it's not too bad, but they're standing just left of my landing zone!

I think it's a great course, but I'm amazed there aren't more accidents there.

GreeBo

There is a difference between a bad hole and a dangerous hole that seems to be getting missed on this Hollystown thread...

charlieIRL

Lets get back op topic guys, Corballis thread can be found here!

slingerz

blue note wrote: »

Ah you haven't needed to be rich to play golf in Ireland for a long time. I think of the older members in my club growing up, very normal people - teachers, guards, postmen, barmen. People with those jobs would struggle to play golf in other countries.

And there aren't many entry level courses around. But now hollystown is gone, I hear deerpark is sold, so I suspect it won't remain accessible to the masses. As the golfing population keeps getting older clubs will feel the pinch more and more, it's not only the recession that was a problem. It'll these types of courses that will be most likely to go.

i think that is more relevant to Dublin than a lot of other areas. i know in Cork there are plenty of cheap alternatives to get into golf than the more inaccessible courses

It's certainly a shame when any course closes but golf remains an accessible sport in Dublin.

Accessible is being able to go on golfnow or teetimes and find a course in the area to play at the weekend for 30 euro. Still easily done. I see st margarets tee times available for 20 euro this Saturday, and if you want to spend a little more you can play Powerscourt or Luttrelstown and the like.

It is amazingly easy to play golf in and around Dublin. It's very hard to play golf well though, that's another story

downthemiddle

I hear another course has gone by the wayside with Killerig closing.

Ollieboy

downthemiddle wrote: »

I hear another course has gone by the wayside with Killerig closing.

Some clubhouse they had, but 100 members at 650! How did they even manage to last so long?

charlieIRL

downthemiddle wrote: »

I hear another course has gone by the wayside with Killerig closing.

Any concrete proof ? we dont want any riumours starting here which could be damaging to a club.

L1011

charlieIRL wrote: »

Any concrete proof ? we dont want any riumours starting here which could be damaging to a club.

Was in the media last year

carlow-nationalist.ie/2019/12/20/killerig-golf-club-to-close-its-doors/

purdy1984

Killerig closed its doors in December all the club's around have got a big influx. Mount Wolseley got 45 or 50...time sheet under pressure even now this time of year it's hard for existing members to get on it

GreeBo

purdy1984 wrote: »

Killerig closed its doors in December all the club's around have got a big influx. Mount Wolseley got 45 or 50...time sheet under pressure even now this time of year it's hard for existing members to get on it

Which is the point I made in the other thread, you have to be very careful about opening your doors when you have a limited resource.

blue note

GreeBo wrote: »

Which is the point I made in the other thread, you have to be very careful about opening your doors when you have a limited resource.

I'd say everyone would love a resurrection of that discussion in another thread :P

GreeBo

blue note wrote: »

I'd say everyone would love a resurrection of that discussion in another thread :P

"If you open it, I will come"

downthemiddle

Looks like two courses in Kerry have closed their doors permanently. Also reports of a Dublin club returning annual subscriptions.

prawnsambo

downthemiddle wrote: »

Looks like two courses in Kerry have closed their doors permanently. Also reports of a Dublin club returning annual subscriptions.

Killorglin being one of them.

There is no indication of the closure on the club’s website and the Golfing Union of Ireland has not received official word but it is understood that the members-run club was wound up last weekend.

tvercetti

prawnsambo wrote: »

Killorglin being one of them.

Castleisland being the other!

https://www.radiokerry.ie/kerry-golf-club-danger-closed/

moycullen14

tvercetti wrote: »

Castleisland being the other!

https://www.radiokerry.ie/kerry-golf-club-danger-closed/

That's a shame, Played it a few years ago - 15 euro for a wednesday open. Lovely course, great views, friendly people.

Interesting that two courses in Kerry gone or going. Are they more dependent that others on green fees?

tvercetti

moycullen14 wrote: »

That's a shame, Played it a few years ago - 15 euro for a wednesday open. Lovely course, great views, friendly people.

Interesting that two courses in Kerry gone or going. Are they more dependent that others on green fees?

The way Kerry is going, you'd wonder can an 18 hole course survive charging less that €50 for a summer round. I think Beauforts probably the only course under €50 now, Kenmare is a little over judging by there site.

A lot of the 9 holes died off in the last 20 years too; Ardfert, Kerries, Listowel, Ballybeggan, Dunloe.

Castleisland had an introductory offer of €250 for a years membership rising to €450 and then the full price of €650.

twounderpar

Perhaps there was an over supply of courses around Killorglin. Dooks, Beaufort and 3 courses in Killarney are all within 20 minutes drive from Killorglin Golf Club. The Hon. Sec did say in his interview in The Irish Examiner that dwindling numbers was one of the reasons for the closure.

PhilOssophy

Ireland has any amount of really good golf courses where you can get around for 30-40 quid a round. Why go to Kerry and fork out big money, spend a lot on accommodation, etc, when there are so many equally good options?

Remind me

downthemiddle wrote: »

Looks like two courses in Kerry have closed their doors permanently. Also reports of a Dublin club returning annual subscriptions.

Annual subscriptions will become an interesting topic if this doesn't turn a corner sooner rather than later

Golfhead65

Members of City West received a letter to say that course is closing until further notice as complex is to be taken over by the HSE and fees have been reimbursed

spacecoyote

Golfhead65 wrote: »

Members of City West received a letter to say that course is closing until further notice as complex is to be taken over by the HSE and fees have been reimbursed

Its already taken over. There is a guard-hut at the first roundabout on the way in & the main hotel is now occupied by the HSE. Railings are up everywhere. The Lemongrass restaurant is open for a limited collection service, but other than that the whole site is closed down

gypsy79

spacecoyote wrote: »

Its already taken over. There is a guard-hut at the first roundabout on the way in & the main hotel is now occupied by the HSE. Railings are up everywhere. The Lemongrass restaurant is open for a limited collection service, but other than that the whole site is closed down

Suspect it will stay as a form of old folks home, if enough people survive following this saga

The drainage on the course was always a problem

downthemiddle

I hear another course in Dublin is closing their gates tomorrow. Always a shame to see members lose their home.

Lad GAGA

downthemiddle wrote: »

I hear another course in Dublin is closing their gates tomorrow. Always a shame to see members lose their home.

Always sad to see that. Which one?

Rippeditup

downthemiddle wrote: »

I hear another course in Dublin is closing their gates tomorrow. Always a shame to see members lose their home.

Awful to see this, it’s weird as some clubs are busier than ever

copacetic

Which club? Is it just the planned wind up of Dublin mountain with the sale?

fred funk }{

Lads, probably best not to name it here until its been released by the club itself.

gypsy79

pm?

Ollieboy

downthemiddle wrote: »

I hear another course in Dublin is closing their gates tomorrow. Always a shame to see members lose their home.

So who was it and did they close?