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RTE Player

  • 25-09-2019 9:20pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭


    Here is something I rarely ever use due to RTE being 95% utter rubbish.


    But put it on to see a show and started with 6 adverts, 4 of which were 30 seconds long, mid way, there was 5 adverts, and then it crashed and reloaded it and more bloody adverts.


    These priks then have the audacity to charge a license fee, when they are getting all this extra income.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,858 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Don't have much to add other than to agree that the player is a heap of junk. All the ads work perfectly, but it can't stream live TV for longer than five minutes before stuttering to a stop - followed by more unskippable ads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Here is something I rarely ever use due to RTE being 95% utter rubbish.


    But put it on to see a show and started with 6 adverts, 4 of which were 30 seconds long, mid way, there was 5 adverts, and then it crashed and reloaded it and more bloody adverts.


    These priks then have the audacity to charge a license fee, when they are getting all this extra income.

    I noticed if you view another window while the adverts are on, the RTE player stops. Any idea how to prevent that?

    I could just head off to the bog while the ads are playing away.

    Using Google Chrome


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Justin Credible Darts


    Arghus wrote: »
    Don't have much to add other than to agree that the player is a heap of junk. All the ads work perfectly, but it can't stream live TV for longer than five minutes before stuttering to a stop - followed by more unskippable ads.




    spot on....the ads never crash, as their revenue from the advertisers are more important than their actual customers who pay them with their extortionate license fee.


    People from all over the world bar the UK, laugh when they hear we need a license to watch a TV...a friggin license


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,852 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    spot on....the ads never crash, as their revenue from the advertisers are more important than their actual customers who pay them with their extortionate license fee.


    People from all over the world bar the UK, laugh when they hear we need a license to watch a TV...a friggin license

    What countries do these laughing people come from?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    I'm all for a public broadcaster but they really are fucking useless. Split RTE into two divisions with equal sums of money, prohibit spending on non-native content, and let the two divisions compete.

    Design bureaus in the Soviet Union used to compete for contracts ffs.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,138 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    People from all over the world bar the UK, laugh when they hear we need a license to watch a TV...a friggin license

    Eh, you should probably read up on how common television licences are other countries before contributing:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_licence


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭Keyzer


    RTE have pissed away countless amounts of tax payers money and licence fees on utter drivel for decades.

    And then they release this piece of dung app, its utterly useless. In a age where technology is so advanced, they must have employed transition year students to code the app.

    Who's for taking to the leafy streets of Donnybrook to protest and shut these charlatans down for good.

    Who's with me?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,737 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    YFlyer wrote: »
    I noticed if you view another window while the adverts are on, the RTE player stops. Any idea how to prevent that?

    I could just head off to the bog while the ads are playing away.

    Using Google Chrome

    The absolute cunts. I think that only happens if you try to view another tab. Open Chrome in a new window altogether and it shouldn't stop playing.

    The fact that the ads never fail to load is a real kick in the teeth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,113 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    The version on my TV has a bug where if the show you want is too new, it'll make you watch the ads then go back to the menu. Has to be about ~8 hours after upload before it'll play

    I, of course, forget this every single time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    What countries do these laughing people come from?
    Aye, the revenue from the licence is insufficient (and many don't pay it - the same folk who ironically make these kinds of complaints) and has to be supplemented by commercial revenue.

    Of course the ads don't crash. Wouldn't be much point in their clients paying for ads that don't display.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,920 ✭✭✭buried


    YFlyer wrote: »
    I noticed if you view another window while the adverts are on, the RTE player stops. Any idea how to prevent that?

    Stop watching their vapid F**king trash

    Make America Get Out of Here



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,852 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Raconteuse wrote: »
    Aye, the revenue from the licence is insufficient (and many don't pay it - the same folk who ironically make these kinds of complaints) and has to be supplemented by commercial revenue.

    Of course the ads don't crash. Wouldn't be much point in their clients paying for ads that don't display.

    They pay hundreds more for Sky, and use it to look at free channels 90% of the time. They are a bit stupid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,858 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Raconteuse wrote: »
    Aye, the revenue from the licence is insufficient (and many don't pay it - the same folk who ironically make these kinds of complaints) and has to be supplemented by commercial revenue.

    Of course the ads don't crash. Wouldn't be much point in their clients paying for ads that don't display.

    I don't really have a problem with the license fee, RTE does provide a public service, as much as people like to thrash it. I don't even have a problem with ads - I understand why they need the extra revenue, in theory anyway.

    But, my god, they should at least sort out basic functionality for their player first.

    And if they're complaining about money, I'd have more sympathy if some of their "talent" weren't grossly, grossly overpaid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    Arghus wrote: »
    I don't really have a problem with the license fee, RTE does provide a public service, as much as people like to thrash it. I don't even have a problem with ads - I understand why they need the extra revenue, in theory anyway.

    But, my god, they should at least sort out basic functionality for their player first.

    And if they're complaining about money, I'd have more sympathy if some of their "talent" weren't grossly, grossly overpaid.
    No I agree with you mostly. The over paying for mediocrity is a big problem. It's just the standard "we Irish are so stupid" thing I was objecting to. As always, more to it than that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,733 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    They should roll back to their older player I never had a problem with that but the newer Beta player is absolute muck.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,707 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Is it true RTE player through Sky box has no ads?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,815 ✭✭✭satguy


    RTE most likely hired a son / daughter of one of their own. (like they always do)

    This very nice son / daughter was then put in charge of fixing the RTE Player. (But as we all know nepotism = mediocrity.)
    Workers hired by RTE should have skills / Know How ,,, But if your daddy works there you only need to Know How to get to the canteen.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Justin Credible Darts


    Raconteuse wrote: »
    Aye, the revenue from the licence is insufficient (and many don't pay it - the same folk who ironically make these kinds of complaints) and has to be supplemented by commercial revenue.

    Of course the ads don't crash. Wouldn't be much point in their clients paying for ads that don't display.


    First off I have a license as its the law, despite your ridiculous claim.


    and as for your second statement, remember the advertisers are not the only people paying , we the owners of a tv license are also.
    Or did you conveniently choose to disregard this ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,590 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Tried watching a couple of their player shows,the ads broke me I'm afraid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    Its always been rubbish. The new one is still rubbish. Has worse problems than the original one.

    More ads, more crashes, entirely pointless.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,858 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    First off I have a license as its the law, despite your ridiculous claim.


    and as for your second statement, remember the advertisers are not the only people paying , we the owners of a tv license are also.
    Or did you conveniently choose to disregard this ?

    In fairness, a lot of people don't pay the license fee and do complain about RTE, I don't think Raconteuse was aiming that accusation at YOU personally, just remarking that it is a thing that is known to happen - every thread on here about RTE is usually chock full of people saying they hate RTE and are glad they don't pay for the license. I wouldn't get too insulted.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Justin Credible Darts


    Arghus wrote: »
    In fairness, a lot of people don't pay the license fee and do complain about RTE, I don't think Raconteuse was aiming that accusation at YOU personally, just remarking that it is a thing that is known to happen - every thread on here about RTE is usually chock full of people saying they hate RTE and are glad they don't pay for the license. I wouldn't get too insulted.


    I am complaining in general because I am paying a license and expect a better service, plus I would like less adverts,

    I agree about those complaining who do not have a license, but would they be the ones to start a thread;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 537 ✭✭✭rgmmg


    I know they looked into having an RTE International channel a decade or so back but deemed it too costly, but RTE could really make a mint if they licenced a decent player to ex pats. I know there is an international element to the existing suite but the content (never mind the app) is dreadful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,428 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    rgmmg wrote:
    I know the looked into having an RTE International channel a decade or so back but deemed it too costly, but RTE could really make a mint if they licenced a decent player to ex pats. I know there is an international element to the existing suite but the content (never mind the app) is dreadful.


    Shur can't people outside of ireland just use the existing app?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 537 ✭✭✭rgmmg


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    Shur can't people outside of ireland just use the existing app?

    Well I can (via VPN) but most content is blocked as offshore (RTE International player (same app) is the default for non-Irish ips) and a lot of expats wouldn't know how to use a VPN. In addition to the stability issues raised here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,428 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    rgmmg wrote:
    Well I can (via VPN) but most content is blocked as offshore (RTE International player (same app) is the default for non-Irish ips) and a lot of expats wouldn't know how to use a VPN. In addition to the stability issues raised here.


    Ah I'd say you d be surprised at the amount of people that are aware of vpn's


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭ollkiller


    Trying to watch the rugby the last day was infuriating. Watched some rugby highlights last night. Skipping every 10 seconds. Can someone in Rte just go to Netflix and ask them how their player works with no skipping. It can't be that hard. Total utter amateur hour. I'm so pissed off with it i've actually sent an email. First time i've ever done something like this but it's that infuriating. Copied below. Should we start a movement and all complain or is it just like pissing in the wind.



    Dear Sir/Madam,
    My name is ****. I live in Cork and have dutifully paid my licence fee for years. I don't have saorview or any satellite dish so use the RTE Player. Or should say try to use.
    You probably know this yourselves but it is absolutely dire. Be it watching live or a pre recorded show it never stops skipping. How you could have come up with a worse player i could not imagine.
    Can you do 1 thing. Can you go to Netflix and ask them how their player works and copy that. Netflix never skips and works perfectly. I can't imagine it's rocket science. And everyone i know says the same thing about your player. Actually even go to TG4 who maintain a way better online player. 
    You would think in this day and age the main broadcaster would be able to provide a service to licence fee paying customers that is at the very least watchable. All you player does at the moment is make customers angry.
    Yours Sincerely, ****. 


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭Woke Hogan


    spot on....the ads never crash, as their revenue from the advertisers are more important than their actual customers who pay them with their extortionate license fee.


    People from all over the world bar the UK, laugh when they hear we need a license to watch a TV...a friggin license
    My arse they do. I bet you've never actually lived in another country, bar a J1 in the States or something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain


    I only installed the app on the Shield to watch a programme last week. Imagine my surprise when I didn't get a single ad. Even at the breaks. It must be some sort of mistake.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 537 ✭✭✭rgmmg


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    Ah I'd say you d be surprised at the amount of people that are aware of vpn's

    True. I as thinking of the older generation (>60).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    The RTE player is dreadful, absolutely fking dreadful. It's actually totally unusable. I have reinstalled it and used it on other devises. Yes, the problem is the player. The only positive aspect of it is that it is consistent in how terrible it is.

    But don't just take my word for it, read the appalling reviews it has on the google play store. Basically a consistent 1/5 star from everyone who has reviewed it.

    As a piece of software it is absolutely dire, and I can't fathom how any developer got paid to deliver such a perfect turd sandwich of a media player. If I was the RTE executive responsible for unleashing such a piece of sh!t I would be embarrassed and ashamed of my six figure salary.

    Oh hold on, here's Dee Forbes talking about bringing a digital media player into the digital age:

    https://www.siliconrepublic.com/people/dee-forbes-digital-age

    Jesus Wept.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,596 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    i dont understand the logic bahind the adds working perfectly andd the program crashing. yes they want the companies buying adds to get their adds played properly but surely having someone watch them would be better

    i have only used the player a few times . i gave up due to all the problems. if there is 5 adds and i have watched 4 times then i have watched 20 adds but given up. if the player worked and had only one 1 add then i would have watched thousands of adds.

    why would any company pay to put adds on a player that nobody watches or can watch.


    worst of all somones cousin runs the software company that made a balls of it and got paid a fortune for that turd


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,590 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    i dont understand the logic bahind the adds working perfectly andd the program crashing. yes they want the companies buying adds to get their adds played properly but surely having someone watch them would be better

    i have only used the player a few times . i gave up due to all the problems. if there is 5 adds and i have watched 4 times then i have watched 20 adds but given up. if the player worked and had only one 1 add then i would have watched thousands of adds.

    why would any company pay to put adds on a player that nobody watches or can watch.


    worst of all somones cousin runs the software company that made a balls of it and got paid a fortune for that turd


    Everybody has cottoned on that less is more when it comes to ads on the interwebs.
    RTE of course have to do it arse over tit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    This would be just about forgivable if streaming were some sort of emerging technology but it's not. It's mature and the kinks have been ironed out a long time ago.

    There's no excuse for it being this useless in 2019.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,596 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    kneemos wrote: »
    Everybody has cottoned on that less is more when it comes to ads on the interwebs.
    RTE of course have to do it arse over tit.

    im not so sure. look at those facebook adds in vides. you wach the video for 30 second and as soon as the add starts you scroll down unless its absolutely amazing. nobody watches them.
    they would be better off putting a banner add above the video and leting you watch the video uninterupted.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,596 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    This would be just about forgivable if streaming were some sort of emerging technology but it's not. It's mature and the kinks have been ironed out a long time ago.

    There's no excuse for it being this useless in 2019.

    given how poor their content is they should be jumping for joy that someone actually clicked on their webiste and do everything posible to keep them there


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭nkl12xtw5goz70


    There's no excuse for it being this useless in 2019.

    If Netflix's streaming service were this bad, people would unsubscribe in droves, the stock price would tank, and those responsible would be chased out with pitchforks.

    When RTE provides dreadful service, they know they can still lobby compliant TDs to tax households €160 a year for the privilege of owning a TV set.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,661 ✭✭✭Voodoomelon


    Another odd thing, you can't actually watch live TV on RTE Player, on a TV! In my experience anyways. I've yet to bother setting up my aerial to receive Saorview, so its there's a live game on or the likes, the app on the TV won't stream it, there's no option to, I have to watch it on my phone or PC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,733 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    ollkiller wrote: »
    Trying to watch the rugby the last day was infuriating. Watched some rugby highlights last night. Skipping every 10 seconds. Can someone in Rte just go to Netflix and ask them how their player works with no skipping. It can't be that hard. Total utter amateur hour. I'm so pissed off with it i've actually sent an email. First time i've ever done something like this but it's that infuriating. Copied below. Should we start a movement and all complain or is it just like pissing in the wind.



    Dear Sir/Madam,
    My name is ****. I live in Cork and have dutifully paid my licence fee for years. I don't have saorview or any satellite dish so use the RTE Player. Or should say try to use.
    You probably know this yourselves but it is absolutely dire. Be it watching live or a pre recorded show it never stops skipping. How you could have come up with a worse player i could not imagine.
    Can you do 1 thing. Can you go to Netflix and ask them how their player works and copy that. Netflix never skips and works perfectly. I can't imagine it's rocket science. And everyone i know says the same thing about your player. Actually even go to TG4 who maintain a way better online player. 
    You would think in this day and age the main broadcaster would be able to provide a service to licence fee paying customers that is at the very least watchable. All you player does at the moment is make customers angry.
    Yours Sincerely, ****. 

    its a bit like complaining to Bus Eireann about their shight bus service, emails go straight into the recycle bin.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,819 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    I don't get why people were so anti water charges, an infrastructure in dire need of upgrading and investment, and critical to our existence, yet they're happy to pay RTE licences to pay Ryan Tub and Lottie Ryan's salaries.
    Mind blowing stuff.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭ollkiller


    its a bit like complaining to Bus Eireann about their shight bus service, emails go straight into the recycle bin.

    Oh i bet they do alright. I would nearly say i can't fathom how they could get it so wrong, but it's RTE.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    It,s a mediocre video player,
    Just have an ad at the start of the program, maybe one more after 45 minutes ,
    When i used it there seemed to random ad,s ,
    i just does not seem to work properly .
    i used to use the bbc player ,but now it require,s you to log in to prove you are a tv license player.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    I don't get why people were so anti water charges, an infrastructure in dire need of upgrading and investment, and critical to our existence, yet they're happy to pay RTE licences to pay Ryan Tub and Lottie Ryan's salaries.
    Mind blowing stuff.
    It's not really though. Firstly, why are you so sure they're the same people? It's unlikely that anti water charge folk are then happily paying the TV licence! And I doubt anyone who does pay it is actually happy about it - they just don't want to get fined. Shur so many people don't pay it until they get caught out - then they're on the radar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    I'm watching Claire Byrne at about 20 minutes after the live stream. The break for commercials came on. Couldn't move the bar (?) forward to get back on to the program. Not possible.

    Any idea how to achieve push passed these commercials?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    Use the firefox browser. You have to wait for ad,s to play all the way through.you can mute the sound in the iplayer while the ads are on.
    I just click the chrome browser icon and read an article while the ads are on, with rte player volume muted
    go back to firefox when the ads are finished after 2 minutes approx.

    If you open another tab in the browser you are using for iplayer , the ads will pause , so leave the browser tab that has iplayer focussed on the rte player video .
    Theres no way to skip ads or fast forward through them .
    The Rte player is free ,so they need ads to fund the service .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    riclad wrote: »
    Use the firefox browser. You have to wait for ad,s to play all the way through.you can mute the sound in the iplayer while the ads are on.
    I just click the chrome browser icon and read an article while the ads are on, with rte player volume muted
    go back to firefox when the ads are finished after 2 minutes approx.

    If you open another tab in the browser you are using for iplayer , the ads will pause , so leave the browser tab that has iplayer focussed on the rte player video .
    Theres no way to skip ads or fast forward through them .
    The Rte player is free ,so they need ads to fund the service .

    Thanks. I'll give that a go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 722 ✭✭✭jrmb


    Eh, you should probably read up on how common television licences are other countries before contributing:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_licence
    Not to mention the additional licence fee for your car stereo if you're in Germany.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    At one stage, while I was changing from Sky to Eir as I just wanted broadband, they offered me the tv on trial for free, so I said I'd give it a go. Went to watch a live GAA match, and the 'HD' channel on the Eir box looked like something from the late 90s with the quality. Thought it might be the Eir box, so had my PC hooked up to the TV and went to the website to watch RTE2 HD Live. After the aforementioned ads, the quality was worse than the Eir box. I had 150Mb and absolutely no other streaming issues from Netflix, Crunchyroll, YouTube, etc.

    So I said I'd hook back up the Sky box as it wasn't due to expire for a few days, and lo and behold the picture on it was perfect... It's like they're actively trying to prevent you from watching it, or making it so bad you'll try to reload and watch all the ads again. A joke of a company.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 108 ✭✭teach nua


    Just got an email from rte player customer service to say that 'the technical department' have confirmed that rte player currently does not work on any android boxes. I'm using a mecool box with android 7. Prime and other streaming apps work fine but when I go to install rte player it's says that it is not compatible with my device.

    This really is some 'service'. Has anyone else heard of this?


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