Jurassic World 3

irishgeo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119044113#Comment_119044113

You wonder how they got on to an Island. Don't think anyone in Ireland could afford the prices at the auction either.

Mr Crispy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119045666#Comment_119045666

That fucker O'Brien!

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119045700#Comment_119045700

It's always him!

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119045666#Comment_119045666

The whole premise needs a far goofier tone to get over that mental hurdle. They should have kept the scope of the film to a ring fenced part of the US; a "no go" area of wilderness where dinosaurs took over. But no, let's go BIG!! says Hollywood

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119044113#Comment_119044113

Another shrine and airport then.

Johnrazz

Cowboys Ted

johnny_ultimate

This is getting atrocious reviews in many quarters - to the point where it’s relatively rare for a well-oiled, ultra-safe Hollywood blockbuster be singled out as particularly bad.

The series needs its own extinction event at this stage.

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/jurassic_world_dominion

Mr Crispy

That's one big pile of 💩

RickBlaine

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119176196#Comment_119176196

I've never really been a fan of the Jurassic World franchise (although I did like the first half of Jurassic World) but my interest in Dominion is massively increased by the presence of the original trio, which itself is pretty much proof that their inclusion is a marketing gimmick. I'll see it this weekend and if at least half of it is someway entertaining, I'll consider it a pass.

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119176196#Comment_119176196

Yeah but it'll make 1 billion anyway and we'll have another round of the tedious "what do the critics know?" argument, a percentage point thrown around like it's a cudgel.

And anyway, were any of us expecting more from Colin Trevorrow? How does a studio look at the man SACKED from Episode IX and think "he's the man to helm this movie!!"?

gmisk

Heading to see this morning...expectations are low...

santana75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119182349#Comment_119182349

Ditto. Have tickets booked for tomorrow and after scanning the reviews on RT its safe to say I'm not exactly bristling with anticipation. Seems to be a wall to wall negative reception which means its either good and theres a collective attempt to bring the film and studio down (for whatever reasons) or its actually as bad as everyone is making out. I fear it could be the latter. Anyhoo I'll check it out and report back tomorrow......

homerun_homer

I find it hilarious that Trevorrow always claimed the other films were just to set up getting to this point, as this was what he wanted to make. And by all accounts it stinks.

I didn't like JW, and think Trevorrow is a bit of a hack. This looks to prove it. His ep IX treatment was viewed with such positivity I think because what came of the franchise truly sucked, and anything would have been better.

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119183495#Comment_119183495

Was it? The Episode IX treatment I mean? Been a while but I recall it being widely derided as no better than the Abrams script.

To be fair to Trevorrow, the press junket circuit must be a tedious slog, being asked the same inane questions 10 times over for ... I dunno, Horse and Hound. I'd probably start prattling stuff about interconnectivity after a while too 😂

Sad Professor

I recall Trevorrow’s SW treatment getting a lot of credit for seeming like he actually watched episodes 7 and 8, though that may have been more due to the influence of LF’s continuity committee which Abrams apparently ignored - a shame because if anyone ever needed a continuity committee to guide his writing it’s Abrams.

I agree about Trevorrow being a hack. I think we’ll see him return to making indie movies after this.

johnny_ultimate

From what I’ve read it seems Dodgson - yes, that one scene character from Jurassic Park - is shoehorned into this as the main villain, albeit with a different actor because the original actor is persona non grata (with good cause).

Another example of a series disappearing up its own lore. The simplicity of the original Jurassic Park is a key reason for why it’s so perfect (Spielberg at the peak of his creative abilities didn’t hurt, of course!) - rarely has any franchise seemed so creatively doomed the minute it tried to expand, let alone when the writers started adding convoluted lore, vast corporate conspiracies and all manner of additional sci-fi silliness on top of it all.

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119184025#Comment_119184025

I wonder what is going on that Blockbusters seem so ... overwritten these days. Convoluted without actually being that smart. Simple A to B narratives apparently not the done thing anymore.

Is it perhaps all the PreVis, or similar, where the movies already have their set-pieces locked in and the scripts are just trying desperately to thread it all together - minus any actual writing talent to make sense of it all?

Nevermind Jurassic Park; you look at 1993's top 10 grossing movies for the US, and even its most bone-headed entry, the slightly under-appreciated Cliffhanger, has a more coherent, linear nuts & bolts script than a lot of what passes for blockbusters now. There's also not a single sequel or reboot in that list either, which is another matter entirely.

gmisk

Just out...Christ that was a mess...a mish mash of scenes that barely hung together. A simple plot.

The highlight was the original Jurassic park trio, really lovely little scenes. Some of the sets were cool and individual scenes were fun, don't want to spoilt but most are in trailer.

Some of the acting was genuinely dreadful.

Maybe worth a 4 or 5 out of 10.

The original is probably my most watched film of all time and is still a stone cold classic. Time to stop now. No doubt it will make a tonne so they will find another way to spin it off.

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The Tim cook like villain I got the name link to the first film...but meh...poor.

The kid Maisy... absolutely awful every single scene.

Pound land Issa Rae the pilot...useless zero motivation for her actions.

Chris Pratt bland and Bryce Dallas Howard similar they are both capable in the right role.

Some of the CGI was awful, their is one scene with a raptor was so poorly done it looked like stop motion.

What were they going with the globe trotting James bond thing...it didn't work..bar some of the crow barred action scenes...the camp villain in the cape..Jesus don't get me started.

Too many scenes aping or directly referencing past films, rather than doing their own thing with this film. Very few ideas, we don't have to end almost every one of the films with a t Rex winning/losing a fight...to save the main characters.

The constant hand holding out thing with raptors give me a break...

Some good dinos I will say...I did like birdyKruger!

Stephen_Maturin

Jurassic World was such a pile of **** that I didn’t even bother see Fallen Kingdom, I knew it would just annoy me. This instalment looks even more ridiculous so doubt I’ll bother.

This bloated series is purely coasting on the nostalgia for the first films. They’re far too self aware, with all the little nudges and references to the first film. Much as I adore Jurassic Park even I found it cheap and tiresome. Bringing back the original trio another cheap tactic.

So so sick of massive budget reboots and sequels. I know the studios are only interested in making money but Jesus Christ can we not have something original?

Stephen_Maturin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2056336108/jurassic-world

Thread for the first Jurassic World from 6 years ago. Looks like things haven’t progressed at all

B.A._Baracus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119184265#Comment_119184265

Same as you. Saw jurassic world and it was a bit meh alright. Was what it was but didn't make me wanna watch fallen kingdom. So I didn't. Looking at the trailer for this and I can't put my finger on it but just looks crap.

Thought I was in the minority but interesting reading the comments so far. Does seem like garbage.

Mr Crispy

So realistically, Camp Cretaceous is the best recent thing in the franchise.

FunLover18

There's no spectacle to it anymore. You were never going to be able to replicate the moment from original movie where they first see the dinosaurs. The franchise is treating it's mvp with less and less respect, there's no tease, no glimpses, no mystery, just dinosaurs front and centre.

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119184873#Comment_119184873

I remember in the era of aintitcool's height, there was a Gonzo script for a JP sequel going around (by who I can't recall), where raptors were turned into soldiers of the government, each having a corresponding soldier on which the dinos imprinted. It supposedly just ran with the whole insanity of the idea, a full blown action film with dinosaurs as a K9 stand-in.

Also easy to forget, the original novel by Michael Crichton was very dark, very adult and gory IIRC. Every edge has been sanded off this franchise - even Spielberg's movies remembered to make encounters with Dino's dangerous. The concept SHOULD be treated as something more terrifying than it is, especially if as in this sequel, the dinosaurs are among us.

Mr Crispy

Also easy to forget, the original novel by Michael Crichton was very dark, very adult and gory IIRC. Every edge has been sanded off this franchise - even Spielberg's movies remembered to make encounters with Dino's dangerous. The concept SHOULD be treated as something more terrifying than it is, especially if as in this sequel, the dinosaurs are among us.

This! There's no jeopardy. They've managed to make dinosaurs boring. DINOSAURS!

FunLover18

Like I haven't seen this but there's a moment in the trailer where Pratt's character makes a promise to a dinosaur that he'll get her offspring back (I can't believe I just typed that). They make a joke of it later on but that just makes it so much worse.

~Rebel~

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119185531#Comment_119185531

2 Fast 2 Dinosaurious.

Family.

santana75

Yeah I'd have to agree with all of the above comments, it's poor. I mean its not terrible, I've seen way worse, but for all the money and resources thrown into making something like this you'd expect it would be better. I lost interest after a while and it overstays its welcome by a good bit. Couldn't really differentiate this film from the previous one......which was also poor. Chris pratt and Bryce dallas Howard seem bored, Jeff Goldblum is his usual oddball self but Sam neill is very good, he's like a fine wine he just gets better.

BlitzKrieg

Its a 2 and half hour film that genuinely runs out of things to do well before the credits to the point that when the climax hits you don't realise its the climax because its so undercooked (not to mention they had force any sort of conflict in the finale really awkwardly)

There are wild character flips on how they've been playing some characters (not a fan of how they turned Henry Wu into a Dr. Frankenstein in the last 2 movies but its a complete 180 in this one without explanation) The new trilogy cast continues to be the most boring group, the villain is the most unusual interpretation of a villain since Batman vs Superman's Luthor (in very much the same style in a lot of ways ape a real world billionaire but they're also doing a bond villain plot)

The only good is the occasional fun dinosaur scene, and really I feel there are only 2 in the whole film and they are oddly back to back, a bizarre and terrifying encounter with a Therizinosaurus which is despite being a herbavour is super moody and a fun but far too short Pyroraptor sequence. I will add both of these dinosaurs got the feather treatment and were both great visually and despite the fluffiness both terrifying, while the more traditional jurassic park looking malta raptors actually looked kinda bad in quite a few shots. In fact in a few close ups one looked downright goofy.

If I was to point at what is missing from the jurassic world films that the jurassic park films did well (at least the first 2). It is a proper well done set piece, set up a location, set up a specific dinosaur, put them in a situation and then spend time playing it out. The original film is 2 big set pieces with lots of character bits around it. The set piece you expect (T-Rex paddock, stuck in car outside, power goes off) and the one that surprised kids at the time (build up how scary raptors are, establish the frankly strange visitor setting, let raptors loose in the visitor setting) there's little like that here, the film spends a lot of time establishing blue in it's early part and then just drops her entirely til the climax. Same with her child. A lot of the sequences are firmly stand alone pockets with no relation to the rest of the film, or if they do come back its at times that are not earned. Not earned describes a lot of the film. The closest it has to a set piece, the extensive sequence in Malta weirdly drags mostly because they are juggling a lot of plot details during it not actually directly related to the events so it's very stop and go and when it does get going it finishes, again in an anti climatic manner. Frankly the plotting gets in the way of a lot of the actual movie.

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Ok spoilers from here on out cause I want to address the Grant and Saddler pairing which wholly exists to undo jurassic park 3's reveal that the two drifted apart and Saddler married and had kids and the two are just friends. Nope from the moment they are introduced the Grant saddler ship is back on, Saddler is quickly made available again and you knew these two were bulletproof for the rest of the film because their whole purpose in this film was to get back together and deliver that perfect ending that jurassic park never gave them.

I have a friend who was convinced they were going to kill off one of the original cast members to really sell the threat but by the mid point of the film the film had so many thematic plot threads running that were needing to be paid off that the only characters they could kill off were either the new black characters they introduced or Ian Malcolm, which it honestly looked like they were going to do for one brief moment that looked like it would have been a nod to how he was injured in the original film. but nope. Everyone is bulletproof in this film.

gandalf

Went to this yesterday, the youngster demanded to go for his birthday.

Having read some of the reviews I wasn't looking forward to it but I think it tempered my expectations. Its not bad, its not great either though and is one of the weakest of the Jurassic Park films along with JP3 and JW: Fallen World.

My main criticism is that it is too long. At 2.5 hours it drags. A lot of the kids at the screening I was at were bored, moving seats and making noise etc after around an hour and a half.

I also agree with the comments above unlike the original where they build up the suspense to a set piece with one of the dino's this doesn't and

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the fact no-one dies from the major characters really lessens the feeling of danger, they could have offed Jeff Goldblum at least.