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Poor diction by radio presenters

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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,070 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    gourcuff wrote: »
    its because there are so many culchies dominating Irish media and broadcasting, there are far more regional accents in Irish media than the UK where it all sounds quite home counties...

    A quick list from a reddit thread...

    Sarah Mcinerney
    Claire Byrne
    Oliver Callan
    Seán Moncrieff
    Ray D’Arcy
    John Creedon
    John Kelly
    Mary Wilson
    Colette Browne
    Rachael English
    Cormac Ó hEadhra
    Darren Frehill

    Matt Cooper
    Ivan Yates
    Jonathan Healy
    Kieran Cuddihy
    Shane Coleman
    Andrea Gilligan
    Richard Chambers
    Siofra Mulqueen

    Dara O’Brian
    Tommy Tiernan
    Damien Lawlor

    Nathan Murphy
    Joe Molloy

    Ciaran Murphy
    Billy Joe Padden
    Kieran Cunningham
    Ger Gilroy
    Eoin Sheehan
    Colm Parkinson

    Michael Lyster
    Sean O’Rourke
    Mark Tighe
    Brendan O’Connor
    Aisling Bea
    Sharon Horgan

    wall to wall culchies out there...

    Not worth a bag of oven baked goat shït unless you tell us where they go wrong, compadre.

    At least none of them have won the ‘Lottho’ as the auld Doobs call it.

    How come they have such a problem with the letter ‘t’

    Me dotther needs to know.......


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,007 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Dee Molumby just invented a totally new way of saying a word on The Last Words film review, very much in the mould of how so many people now pronounce "gen u ine lay".


    She was saying posthumously but she pronounced it "post humour os ly".


  • Registered Users Posts: 54,599 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Paddyed wrote: »
    I love the radio. Generally switch between Newstalk, Radio One and Today FM. However the general standard of proper pronunciation and grammar can be jaw droppingly bad. I just listened to "Sahurday" Matt Cooper hatcheting his t/h words before passing over to Ian Guider who along with murdering his t/h's, also pronounces many words beginning with t/h as "v". Vis means vat ve turty tree teatres vat are located... Its astounding and shocking that a national broadcaster doesn't insist on minimum standards for its presenters.

    Jaysus, Paddy. Any chance you could have another stab at this...😌


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,914 ✭✭✭jojofizzio


    blackbox wrote: »
    When Matt Cooper talks about someone having a sore "troath" it is nothing to do with a regional accent.

    ...or having no "thread" on their tyres.

    His diction is appalling for someone broadcasting regularly on a national radio station


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,994 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh


    walshb wrote: »
    Jaysus, Paddy. Any chance you could have another stab at this...😌

    You are replying to the first post back in September 2019 and to a user who has only posted three times! :rolleyes:


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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,473 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    jojofizzio wrote: »
    His diction is appalling for someone broadcasting regularly on a national radio station

    Agreed.
    Had to give up listening to him years ago.
    Sah-erday and noooze are two that I particularly remember.


  • Registered Users Posts: 54,599 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    You are replying to the first post back in September 2019 and to a user who has only posted three times! :rolleyes:

    Thanks for the heads up!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,133 ✭✭✭plodder


    Not worth a bag of oven baked goat shït unless you tell us where they go wrong, compadre.

    At least none of them have won the ‘Lottho’ as the auld Doobs call it.

    How come they have such a problem with the letter ‘t’

    Me dotther needs to know.......
    Can't think of anyone on that list with bad diction. One that grates with me is the inability to pronounce 'th' at the end of words :-

    as in "fort, fift and sixt"

    Quite common on RTE Radio 1.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 556 ✭✭✭shtpEdthePlum


    Oh I forgot the weirdest one of all, Sean Moncrieff going "that text woll cost you 50c".

    ??


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,723 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    gourcuff wrote: »
    its because there are so many culchies dominating Irish media and broadcasting, there are far more regional accents in Irish media than the UK where it all sounds quite home counties...

    UK hasn't been all home counties for quite some time, indeed its quite the opposite now.

    BBC quite specifically seek out regional accents for anything youth-content related. Radio 1 moved this way about 25 years ago; and now as presenters get older they turn up elsewhere

    There are also a huge number of Irish voiceovers for station imaging and adverts, as it prevents it being identified as any specific English region.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    The one that bugs the sh1t out of me is -sh instead of -t at the end of some words.
    D'Arcy and Moncrieff do this all the time.

    It becomes ish
    Out is oush


  • Registered Users Posts: 902 ✭✭✭twinklerunner


    gourcuff wrote: »
    its because there are so many culchies dominating Irish media and broadcasting, there are far more regional accents in Irish media than the UK where it all sounds quite home counties...

    A quick list from a reddit thread...

    Sarah Mcinerney
    Claire Byrne
    Oliver Callan
    Seán Moncrieff
    Ray D’Arcy
    John Creedon
    John Kelly
    Mary Wilson
    Colette Browne
    Rachael English
    Cormac Ó hEadhra
    Darren Frehill

    Matt Cooper
    Ivan Yates
    Jonathan Healy
    Kieran Cuddihy
    Shane Coleman
    Andrea Gilligan
    Richard Chambers
    Siofra Mulqueen

    Dara O’Brian
    Tommy Tiernan
    Damien Lawlor

    Nathan Murphy
    Joe Molloy

    Ciaran Murphy
    Billy Joe Padden
    Kieran Cunningham
    Ger Gilroy
    Eoin Sheehan
    Colm Parkinson

    Michael Lyster
    Sean O’Rourke
    Mark Tighe
    Brendan O’Connor
    Aisling Bea
    Sharon Horgan

    wall to wall culchies out there...

    Joe Duffy. Sorry to burst your bubble. Tirty tree.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,491 ✭✭✭Cole


    Tis mighty altogether to see so many linguists on here...especially those whose expertise is clearly in the phonology of Irish/Hiberno English...and not a hint of a superiority (or should that be inferiority) complex at all.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,133 ✭✭✭plodder


    L1011 wrote: »
    UK hasn't been all home counties for quite some time, indeed its quite the opposite now.
    like Beff Rigby repawtin from Westminstah...


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,070 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Where did this RTE penchant for ‘NOOZE’ spring from?

    TV3….. they are all at it now ……except the News readers.

    Ballsy is the worst proponent of that disgusting pronunciation.



  • Registered Users Posts: 557 ✭✭✭iffandonlyif


    This is such pathetic sarcasm. Explain to me how it could ever be conceived of as an inferiority complex.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,426 ✭✭✭ford fiesta


    Think Matt Cooper on today fm started this nooooze lark



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,070 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    I think you could be right.

    it’s like COVID-19 now, running roughshod through RTE radio.

    Cant believe someone in RTE standards hasn’t stepped in and put a stop to it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,286 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    has anyone mentioned Emma O'Kelly yet? Spits out her "t" sounds in an exaggerated manner. The polar opposite to Matt "Saherday" Cooper but just as annoying. She's much worse in pre recorded reports than when she's live in the studio

    Reminds me of a swotty schoolgirl in an elocution class trying to impress her tutor. "Now, in this year's Leaving CerTTTTificaTTTTe....."



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,070 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Will listen out for that .

    As we are at who is the one on the Weather who rasps out the Ss like grade 43 sandpaper

    As in ‘Eassssst and Wessssst’

    Would strip paint off a set of bannisters in about an hour.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,286 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    Nuala Carey? Her delivery seems unnatural, slow and teacher-like.



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,070 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,491 ✭✭✭Cole


    If you'd left out the first sentence/comment, then I'd have bothered me arse to engage with your 'question'.

    Anyway, this new Boards version is giving me a headache, so I couldn't be arsed on both counts.



  • Registered Users Posts: 295 ✭✭gourcuff


    What do people mean by regional accents? every accent is regional...



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,761 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    The many many ads: "Avail-a-bill-a-dee", "Trin-a-dee", "For-dee" (40), The National "Lodder-ee", "Zuz-Dain-a-bill-a-dee"



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,073 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Loddie Ryan .



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭crazy 88


    A word used by those in yellow to describe those in green




  • Registered Users Posts: 3,426 ✭✭✭ford fiesta


    as I mentioned in the worst ad's thread: a very recent public service Covid ad pronounced "Thanks" as "sanks"



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,070 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    That one, Petula Martin on the Business ‘Nooze’ as she calls it is a serial ‘Nooze’ offender.

    Where da fuuherke did this stuff spring from?

    The ‘Nooze’ virus has spread expediently through RTE… all the Munster crowd are at it and nobody is stopping it.

    what is fhuhhkkng happening here.?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,542 ✭✭✭Allinall


    I suppose it's an extension of people typing gobbledegook and expecting others to know what they're on about.



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