UFC 242: Khabib Nurmagomedov vs Dustin Poirier [7 Sep, 19:00]

Subcomandante Marcos

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Subcomandante Marcos

Khabib Nurmagomedov on Points

Saw the countdown video was dropped on the youtubes so threw up the thread.
Forgot to add a Poll so if a mod want's to do it that would be great :P

edit: UFC subtitles in the video of the highlights of the Conor fight "It's only business".


That's that so :pac:.

dashoonage

UFC needs to stop putting on events where I don't want either fighter to lose.

As said in the mclugnerlet proper 12 thread. Khabib to win but he will have to earn it. Dustin will be no walk over. I also think khabib knows this.

BDI

Khabib Nurmagomedov by Sub

Is 1900 the Irish time of first prelim

Subcomandante Marcos

Khabib Nurmagomedov on Points

BDI wrote: »

Is 1900 the Irish time of first prelim

Irish time for the main card.
Early prelims at 15:15.
Prellims at 17:00.

BDI

Khabib Nurmagomedov by Sub

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Irish time for the main card.
Early prelims at 15:15.
Prellims at 17:00.

Is it on in uk?

Blueshoe

Khabib Nurmagomedov by Sub

Finally a UFC event on at normal times for us!

Subcomandante Marcos

Khabib Nurmagomedov on Points

BDI wrote: »

Is it on in uk?

It's in Abu Dhabi.

pauldoo

Looks like it's ppv, not the strongest card to justify PPV

GiftofGab

So what time do you reckon this fight will start at?? Can I catch this in town?? I'll be out so can't really watch the prelims.

derfderf

Dustin Poirier by KO/TKO

I can't see any way Dustin wins this. I always underestimate him though, he's a tough guy. He has his struggles vs Alvarez and Gaethje, but found a way to win.

If the main event falls through it's an average (at best) fight night card. I'll cross my fingers for you all. I live in Sydney, so the start times are usually perfect here.

Zero-Cool

Dustin Poirier by Sub

Let's go Dustin!!!

Mellor

Khabib Nurmagomedov on Points

derfderf wrote: »

If the main event falls through it's an average (at best) fight night card. I'll cross my fingers for you all. I live in Sydney, so the start times are usually perfect here.

4am start of main card in Sydney.
Load of balls. :pac::pac::pac:

pauldoo wrote: »

Looks like it's ppv, not the strongest card to justify PPV

I mentioned this in another thread but its relevant here. Given the location, they've decided to push muslim fighters. Besides Khabib and Makhachev, that means lots of low ranked/debut fighters.

Makhachev v Ramos could be an interesting one.

Beersmith

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

edit: UFC subtitles in the video of the highlights of the Conor fight "It's only business".


That's that so :pac:.

What?

Subcomandante Marcos

Khabib Nurmagomedov on Points

Beersmith wrote: »

What?

It's a whole thing. There was umpteen pages of debate about what was said. This puts it to rest.

Beersmith

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

It's a whole thing. There was umpteen pages of debate about what was said. This puts it to rest.

I have no idea what you are referring to. What video? What thing?

Subcomandante Marcos

Khabib Nurmagomedov on Points

Beersmith wrote: »

I have no idea what you are referring to. What video? What thing?

After the bell went between rounds while Conor was getting mauled and Khabib was talking to him, when the clinch against the cage was broken up at the end of the round Conor said something to Khabib. Most people heard him saying "it's only business" and saw this as him basically backtracking on his prefight trash talk.
Others claimed this was worng and he said something else.

In the OP of this thread there's a countdown video released by the UFC which includes highlights of the fight. That exact part of the fight is included with subtitles showing him saying "it's only buinsess".

Mellor

Khabib Nurmagomedov on Points

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

It's a whole thing. There was umpteen pages of debate about what was said. This puts it to rest.

That debate was mind numbing. Insane stuff, went on for weeks.
Sadly the people argue for something else aren't going to accept subtitles as definitive. Sure it's just the opinion of one guy writing the subtitles. :pac::pac::pac:

xtal191

Dustin Poirier by Sub

I dunno why but I'm convinced Dustin will win this and we'll have him fight Conor next

Subcomandante Marcos

Khabib Nurmagomedov on Points

I think Khabib will win, but I'll be putting a small bet on Dustin. The odds are too big not to really.

gibgodsman

Early prelims are better than most of the main card and prelims.

UFC clearly bowing to ESPN+ to let them sell more subs.

mailburner

Dustin Poirier by Sub

Dustin winning wouldn't be as sweet or maybe as epic as bisping but it would still be
a great moment in mma history
The only man to have more ufc fights than dustin and win a
belt was mike himself

I have to say I didn't think he'd ever be in this position but he's a
monster at lw to be fair to him

Odds are huge on him too, can't resist either

The weekend can't come quick enough with this beautiful start time also

Mellor

Khabib Nurmagomedov on Points

mailburner wrote: »

The only man to have more ufc fights than dustin and win a
belt was mike himself

I thought you were saying more fights than all champs except Mike.
But I get you now. Most fights on his record at the time of challenging. Depressing stat for team Poirier.

Who is second most after Bisping?

mailburner

Dustin Poirier by Sub

Mellor wrote: »

I thought you were saying more fights than all champs except Mike.
But I get you now. Most fights on his record at the time of challenging. Depressing stat for team Poirier.

Who is second most after Bisping?

Dustin
This will be his 23rd fight
bisping got a shot in his 26th fight

I'm pretty sure nobody has had close to this number
of fights before getting a shot though

Blueshoe

Khabib Nurmagomedov by Sub

derfderf wrote: »

I can't see any way Dustin wins this. I always underestimate him though, he's a tough guy. He has his struggles vs Alvarez and Gaethje, but found a way to win.

If the main event falls through it's an average (at best) fight night card. I'll cross my fingers for you all. I live in Sydney, so the start times are usually perfect here.

27-0 Khabib will crush him I think. Usual story bring it to the ground game over. Obviously Dustin's camp have a plan in place to counter but I can only see one winner.
Khabib by cuddling

Mellor

Khabib Nurmagomedov on Points

Randy won the HW title from Sylvia in his 23rd fight.


But yeah, I get what you mean. Can’t think to any close to the for their first time.

mailburner

Dustin Poirier by Sub

Mellor wrote: »

Randy won the HW title from Sylvia in his 23rd fight.


But yeah, I get what you mean. Can’t think to any close to the for their first time.

haha :pac: randy beating tim and mike beating luke my two favourite
moments in mma

true, it was only his 17th fight within the ufc, think cerrone was much
the same when he got rda

you can add another 10 to mikes total outside of the ufc and 9 to dustins

I don't see either of these totals ever being surpassed unless someone like cerrone gets a lucky break
fairlytales like bisping happen only once in a lifetime

irishguy1983

Can we get BT Box Office here? Like on EIR?

Homelander

I think Dustin has a reasonable chance. Not that it's likely, but it's not outlandish either. Khabib is a menance on the grapple/ground, but he's ground out a fair few decisions too, and tends to make strikers ineffective due to the fear of the takedown and being kept there rather than being an actual world class submission artist or anything like that.

Guys like McGregor, Porier, Fergusson, all have a decent chance against him. Obviously didn't work out for McGregor but sooner or later it will happen. I'd say Tony has to be the prime candidate for wearing him down through sheer, inhuman endurance and volume. He's like a wilder McGregor that never tires.

Mellor

Khabib Nurmagomedov on Points

The main reason I think Khabib mauls Dustin. Is the fact that Alvarez was doing similar and in a position to finish him in their fight.
Khabib does it better than Alvarez.

simongurnick

Can't stand khabib. Hope dustin kicks his hole

Mellor

Khabib Nurmagomedov on Points

Mellor wrote: »

The main reason I think Khabib mauls Dustin. Is the fact that Alvarez was doing similar and in a position to finish him in their fight.
Khabib does it better than Alvarez.

This is the part of that fight that I'm referring to.
Eddie didn't do a great job here, Khabib would have got the finish.
Not dissimilar to the finish of Khabib v McGregor.


https://streamable.com/8qhqo

Mellor wrote: »

Makhachev v Ramos could be an interesting one.

This is Davi Ramos being Davi Ramos

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Gamb!t

Khabib Nurmagomedov on Points

Think Khabbib will get the sub.

Zero-Cool

Dustin Poirier by Sub

Great angle from the new footage.

https://twitter.com/streetfitebanch/status/1168584400059142148?s=19

Tazzimus

Dustin Poirier by Sub

Dustin won't make it easy for him, but I don't think he'll have enough to beat Khabib.
Realistically, Tony looks to be the only one that can survive and have enough energy left to pour it on in the later rounds when Khabib starts to tire.

MrStuffins

Dustin Poirier by KO/TKO

mailburner wrote: »

Dustin
This will be his 23rd fight
bisping got a shot in his 26th fight

I'm pretty sure nobody has had close to this number
of fights before getting a shot though

First name that came to mind was RDA, but he's nowhere even close. 18 fights if I count correctly.

Really pulling for Dustin this weekend!

gibgodsman

The only person in that division that can beat Khabib is Tony, the rest will get taken down and cuddled, you cannot do that with Tony has his BJJ is elite level and he could tap Khabib

Tazzimus

Dustin Poirier by Sub

gibgodsman wrote: »

The only person in that division that can beat Khabib is Tony, the rest will get taken down and cuddled, you cannot do that with Tony has his BJJ is elite level and he could tap Khabib

Khabib would likely nullify his BJJ easy enough, he's all about smothering and trapping limbs while he pummels you.
Tony has a very strong wrestling background though, that'd help more than BJJ. Plus his inhuman cardio.

Mellor

Khabib Nurmagomedov on Points

gibgodsman wrote: »

The only person in that division that can beat Khabib is Tony, the rest will get taken down and cuddled, you cannot do that with Tony has his BJJ is elite level and he could tap Khabib

“Elite” is kinda arbitrary when we’re talking about professional fighter.
Tony’s bjj is good. But he’s not on the level of the top guys. He deserved the black bekt but that was relatively recently. I think Eddie Bravo is in the best position to make that call.

derfderf

Dustin Poirier by KO/TKO

People keep talking about Tony's BJJ, but i can't remember the last time i saw a top level wrestler being submitted.
Tony's best bet is to use his wrestling to keep it standing.
I actually think Justin Gaethje would give Khabib as good a fight as anyone in the division for that reason, but he may be a bit small. He barely cuts, and Khabib cuts a lot.

mailburner

Dustin Poirier by Sub

I think outside of tony dustin has possibly the best chance though as he probably won't tire like most even late on (would love to see gaethje khabib also)
It's a chance of a lifetime for him and I really believe he'll push khabib very very close and leave no stone unturned

conor had some success round three, if dustin has a similiar good spell midfight I think he could actually stop khabib when fatigue eventually kicks in late rnd 4 or 5
Khabib did look fairly ordinary in rnd 3 v conor understandably but I think a mixture of conor being exhausted helped there

xtal191

Dustin Poirier by Sub

gibgodsman wrote: »

The only person in that division that can beat Khabib is Tony, the rest will get taken down and cuddled, you cannot do that with Tony has his BJJ is elite level and he could tap Khabib

I think Gaethje could cause Khabib a few problems

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

Dustin Poirier by KO/TKO

Is this the best ever fight card on at a normal time for Europe to watch?

7pm 'kick off' is literally a perfect time for an event to start.

Think Dustin will give Khabib a lot of problems. Will have a small bet on "Paid in Full" Porrier and Feldor double.

US2

Dustin Poirier by KO/TKO

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

Is this the best ever fight card on at a normal time for Europe to watch?

7pm 'kick off' is literally a perfect time for an event to start.

Think Dustin will give Khabib a lot of problems. Will have a small bet on "Paid in Full" Porrier and Feldor double.

It's a terrible card besides the main event, not worthy of ppv

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

Dustin Poirier by KO/TKO

US2 wrote: »

It's a terrible card besides the main event, not worthy of ppv

A big title fight at a normal time is an absolute treat. Plus a main card with high profile fighters. I'll take it.

There's been a lot worse PPV cards in the recent past.

JoeyJJ

It would pain me to miss this fight live, however the card isn't that good and its PPV.

Axwell

Poll added...

rob316

Its a really poor card but could throw up some good fights. The return of Khabib is something I can't wait for though, he'll have too much Dustin. Hopefully we get Khabib vs Tony fight before the end of the year.

Tony has the only chance of beating him I believe but Khabib's style is just so difficult to compete with. He drags you down, ties you up, smothers you and just pounds on you. He proved in the McGregor fight he won't respect your striking, he has the confidence to stand there and wait for an opening.

mailburner

Dustin Poirier by Sub

fancy felder to get that loss back also

ricero

Khabib Nurmagomedov on Points

I say Dana and the Ufc are banking on a Khabib victory. I can see Khabib vs Tony and a co-main event of Diaz vs Masvidal for the big end of year card.

dashoonage

I'm having an emotional battle with myself here do i want to pay 30 euro for the card on BT this weekend. My erm...ship for the high sea's sunk and the new one wont be delivered in time so ive no options.