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ZeroZeroZero - Sky Original - (**Spoilers**)

  • 30-08-2019 4:41pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭


    From the makers of Gomorrah starring Gabriel Byrne.
    The drama will chart family dynamics, Mexican cartels, the ‘Ndrangheta (the Calabrian mafia) and corrupt businessmen



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Looks like Amazon have the worldwide rights to this.



  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    out now.

    have watched about half the episodes in this eight parter.

    someone described it "a mix of Narcos and the movie Sicario" and that's a fair reflection overall. gritty vibe to it.

    I'd recommend it. It's good stuff. has three different sets of story characters who are all connected in the chain.

    prefer it to the Gomorrah series tbh as I found the characters to be too cartoony in that.


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    finished this.

    anybody got into it?

    8.5/10.

    definitely not an advert for getting into the world of drug smuggling.

    Liked the Italian aspect of it the best.

    The mexican part was a bit too Scarface but I suppose that life is actually so cheap there

    The 2 american characters were a bit of a drag at the start but grow on you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 531 ✭✭✭den87


    Is it on the sky box? Or amazon?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,638 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Just finished this as well. Really enjoyed it but definitely found the italian parts more interesting. The brother could be a bit annoying but the sister was really good.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 188 ✭✭motley


    Just watched episode 1. As gritty as I had hoped. Looks good so far. Is it a standalone series or have they made room for a second series?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,638 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    motley wrote: »
    Just watched episode 1. As gritty as I had hoped. Looks good so far. Is it a standalone series or have they made room for a second series?

    Plenty of scope for a second series.


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Plenty of scope for a second series.

    they could do a second series maybe but this was based on a book of which there is only one and all the points have been made imo.

    I don't think that a sequel would have anything much to say and I doubt that there will be one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,638 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    glasso wrote: »
    they could do a second series maybe but this was based on a book of which there is only one and all the points have been made imo.

    I don't think that a sequel would have anything much to say and I doubt that there will be one.

    They created a universe with some good characters. No reason they couldn't tell other stories in the same universe


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    They created a universe with some good characters. No reason they couldn't tell other stories in the same universe

    The story came to a natural end imo and plenty of the main characters are dead (or indeed too old in one case).

    Also, some of the characters don't have much depth at all really e.g. the Mexican ex-army guy.

    Personally I don't see the point of continuing with it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,990 ✭✭✭cdgalwegian


    Pretty decent take on the international drug trade as a Gomorrah/Narcos hybrid. The 3-angle format (buyer/broker/seller) could easily make it an anthology-type series concept-wise, possibly even with some crossover. As it's based on a single book though, it'd take a lot of work, and I'm not sure the viewer figures could justify it.

    The reason for the title is in this piece:
    https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2020/03/9509591/is-amazon-series-zerozerozero-based-on-a-true-story


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,841 ✭✭✭TomTomTim


    Any way to watch this outside of Sky? It's not on Amazon

    “The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than anyone else. You know it is sometimes very pleasant to take offense, isn't it? A man may know that nobody has insulted him, but that he has invented the insult for himself, has lied and exaggerated to make it picturesque, has caught at a word and made a mountain out of a molehill--he knows that himself, yet he will be the first to take offense, and will revel in his resentment till he feels great pleasure in it.”- ― Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,009 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    If this is on Amazon Prime Video, how come I can't find it on my Irish account?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,733 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    TomTomTim wrote: »
    Any way to watch this outside of Sky? It's not on Amazon


    It hasn't been aired yet on Sky. Amazon Prime had the rights outside most of Europe for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 478 ✭✭Figel Narage


    Huge fan of Gommorah so was looking forward to this and it was clear how it was influenced by it but I thought it could have been better. Italian story was the best and I'd love to see a stand alone Calbrian Mafia series some day, Mexican story started off well but went a bit stale and wasn't a fan of the American Broker siblings from the start. It seemed like it was trying to do too much and ended up with something mediocre in the end. I read the book years before it came out and didn't know what to expect regarding characters and story as there's so many different people in it and not really a strict plot like in the series.


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    it's better than mediocre imo.

    pretty decent.

    as said the Mexican bit was a bit cartoonish but that's the bit that reminded me of the the Gomorrah tv series characters actually.

    one of the better series this year so far for me anyways.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,990 ✭✭✭cdgalwegian


    glasso wrote: »
    it's better than mediocre imo.

    pretty decent.

    as said the Mexican bit was a bit cartoonish but that's the bit that reminded me of the the Gomorrah tv series characters actually.

    one of the better series this year so far for me anyways.

    Yeah; for me it was pretty interesting, but more so shows a lot of promise for interesting storytelling in relation to a vicious business on the international level. It's got a lot of scope if was to look at the different ways the business gets done at this level.


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yeah; for me it was pretty interesting, but more so shows a lot of promise for interesting storytelling in relation to a vicious business on the international level. It's got a lot of scope if was to look at the different ways the business gets done at this level.

    I'd be surprised if they go with a second season but could happen I suppose.

    if they were to put up the money for it could possibly be more interesting to do different settings (e.g. heroin from Afghanistan through Europe) with different characters, especially since they have already covered the material from the book that is in existence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 478 ✭✭Figel Narage


    glasso wrote: »
    it's better than mediocre imo.

    pretty decent.

    as said the Mexican bit was a bit cartoonish but that's the bit that reminded me of the the Gomorrah tv series characters actually.

    one of the better series this year so far for me anyways.

    Ye I'm possibly being harsh but it wasn't super engaging after a certain point for me. After reading the book years ago and being a huge fan of Gommorah I was expecting alot so that didn't help things but it could have been alot better. The Mexican line had great potential and started off great but became boring after awhile.


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ye I'm possibly being harsh but it wasn't super engaging after a certain point for me. After reading the book years ago and being a huge fan of Gommorah I was expecting alot so that didn't help things but it could have been alot better. The Mexican line had great potential and started off great but became boring after awhile.

    I disliked the american bro and sis at the outset but they grew on me as they were fleshed out a bit over the series

    the Italian part was the best for sure.

    the Mexican ex-soldier dude character development was just too crude really.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 478 ✭✭Figel Narage


    glasso wrote: »
    I disliked the american bro and sis at the outset but they grew on me as they were fleshed out a bit over the series

    the Italian part was the best for sure.

    the Mexican ex-soldier dude character development was just too crude really.

    Some plot points I wasn't a fan of as well. Even on the Italian part which I liked the most. The sibling broker story had so many of them. I'm a big fan of Gommorah and it's guilty of this as well but we all love Ciro and Genny so it doesn't bother me as much


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,841 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    skimpydoo wrote: »
    If this is on Amazon Prime Video, how come I can't find it on my Irish account?

    It's not on the Irish or UK version on Prime Video. Sky own the rights here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,454 ✭✭✭Blondie919


    TomTomTim wrote: »
    Any way to watch this outside of Sky? It's not on Amazon

    If you have a vpn look for a Canada East one and use Prime video. I've just finished watching it on there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭Full_Circle_81


    I wonder why Sky haven't aired this here yet.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 531 ✭✭✭den87


    I wonder why Sky haven't aired this here yet.....

    Probably saving it? January maybe?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,016 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I wonder why Sky haven't aired this here yet.....

    On Sky Atlantic or Sky 1?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,733 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    All episodes released 4th February on Sky.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,201 ✭✭✭amacca


    Just watched it on Sky and enjoyed it.....hadnt really switched my brain on nut can see what people mean about Mexican part being a bit cartoonish
    even the Leyras not recognising the threat a group like the vampires represent - what kind of amateurs ate they that they provide a special forces trained group with weapons and don't take steps to protect themselves- i. Fact how the hell did they get to the top being that lax
    and then there's the American siblings.........
    I thought as I was watching it there's no way they survive in that world...
    and when the brother rather conveniently made a Senegalese friend with connections to make a deal to get them out of the port (a bit eyebrow raising too
    etc

    Still enjoyed it a hell of a lot though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,904 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Just watched the first episode, not bad at all I thought.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    This is very good, surprised theirs not more praise for it. Very gritty probably the reason why.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,841 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    I wonder why it took Sky so long to show a Sky original. I imagine many have already seen it via other methods.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭dzilla


    its a great show, sky have been knocking it out of the park with regards to the series recently


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    dzilla wrote: »
    its a great show, sky have been knocking it out of the park with regards to the series recently

    personally would consider this more an Amazon production given that they released it pretty much a year ago.

    most of Sky's solo work is pretty poor on the whole

    e.g. that Gangs of London muck would be typical of their work - initially glossy but ultimately crap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    dzilla wrote: »
    its a great show, sky have been knocking it out of the park with regards to the series recently

    What are some good shows on Sky atm? Netflix offering is pretty poor atm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Gabriel Byrnes son reminded me of Alfie Allen which makes him very unlikeable indeed

    otherwise it was stylish and enjoyable if not exactly over original


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 862 ✭✭✭unplayable


    show is very watchable so far. episode 2 was well done. its a massive step down in quality from Gomorrah which is made by the same guy. but still ok. no more than 7/10 from me.


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    unplayable wrote: »
    show is very watchable so far. episode 2 was well done. its a massive step down in quality from Gomorrah which is made by the same guy. but still ok. no more than 7/10 from me.

    you can't really make a series rating after 2 episodes tbh

    personally I liked it better than Gomorrah (the tv series) overall.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭dzilla


    wadacrack wrote: »
    What are some good shows on Sky atm? Netflix offering is pretty poor atm.

    Gomorrah
    Il Miracolo / The miracle
    Devils
    1992 - 1993 - 1994
    Save Me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭dzilla


    glasso wrote: »
    personally would consider this more an Amazon production given that they released it pretty much a year ago.

    most of Sky's solo work is pretty poor on the whole

    e.g. that Gangs of London muck would be typical of their work - initially glossy but ultimately crap.

    It was on Sky in other regions last May, just later coming to Ireland and the UK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭Noise Annoys


    Watched the first two episodes and found it a bit ponderous. It aims for a big global sweep of the drugs trade but I couldn't connect with the characters or the pace.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,201 ✭✭✭amacca


    glasso wrote: »

    most of Sky's solo work is pretty poor on the whole

    e.g. that Gangs of London muck would be typical of their work - initially glossy but ultimately crap.

    I tend to agree, I wasn't that impressed with Sky stuff

    However I quite liked gangs of London up until the last couple of episodes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    is it as good as Narcos Mexico?


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Watched the first two episodes and found it a bit ponderous. It aims for a big global sweep of the drugs trade but I couldn't connect with the characters or the pace.

    you have to give it another couple of episodes.

    the two siblings are a bit annoying initially but get developed more as it goes along.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    its just ok , il stick with it though

    its not reinventing the wheel , thats for sure


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    anyone answer my above question ? please


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,881 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    fryup wrote: »
    anyone answer my above question ? please

    It's subjective to be fair. I think I preferred Narcos Mexico on balance but Zero Zero Zero is worth a watch and others may think it's better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    watched the first two episodes last night, very impressed so far

    what's the illness the young lad has?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    fryup wrote: »
    watched the first two episodes last night, very impressed so far

    what's the illness the young lad has?

    Not sure , got much better after the first 2-3 episodes I found


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭Noise Annoys


    I moved on to 'The Night Of' which I immediately liked and six episodes in am really enjoying.
    I guess life is too short and there are too many box sets!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    i'm 4 episodes in and i think its excellent

    what's with the corrupt soldier listening to religious podcasts? is it to clear his conscience?


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